Marvel Studios Visual Development Supervisor Talks Designing THOR In THE AVENGERS

Marvel Studios Visual Development Supervisor Talks Designing THOR In THE AVENGERS

The conceptual art for all of Marvel Studios' feature films have been rather exceptional with the majority of it being produced and/or supervised by Ryan Miendering and Charlie Wen.

Artist Charlie Wen, who tag teams with Ryan Miendering to oversee the conceptual designs for Marvel Studios recently chatted with Marvel about designing Thor in The Avengers. You can check that out below along with a look at how Thor's costume has changed from Thor to the Avengers and Thor: The Dark World.

On how Thor's look had to change between his solo-movie which saw him surrounded by similarly dressed Asgardians to The Avengers where he's on The Helicarrier surrounded by the likes of Iron Man and Captain America.
Charlie Wen: In “Thor,” he was more warrior-like. It was more of a battle-ready costume. [“Marvel’s The Avengers” director] Joss [Whedon] wanted more super heroes on this one, and we went in that direction. You see the blues in Thor’s costume more in this film, which blend better together in that way. The effect is that [the heroes] do gel together better, color-wise.

Was it a conscious decision to have a cape and capeless Thor.
Wen: It was. There were two costumes I had to design, [including] one where he is able to walk around and hang out, so he’s not always moving his cape aside when he needs to sit down just to drink coffee. It’s just something he can have to hang out with the guys.

On the almost imperceptible alterations to Thor's chest pieces.
Wen: Overall, they stayed pretty close to the same area. There were slight changes, more along the lines of bringing the cape size down a bit. I kept [the chest pieces] mostly in the same places. That’s one of the things I saw on him that I didn’t want to change, if at all possible. I wanted to keep it constant, so anything I changed would just be the proportions.

And here's a few excerpts from a previous interview Wen did for Thor's solo-film.

What were his contributions to the film [Thor].
Wen: I did the final designs on Thor and Loki, and some of the side characters like Sif, Hogun, Fandral and [Volstagg]. Those are where most of my time was spent.

On working with Ryan Meinerding who says that Wen was the one that 'nailed' the mythological aspect of Thor's look.
Wen: Well I think I was the one that landed on it, but it built up that way from so much of the stuff we both did, start[ing] with a lot of [the original comics’] designs mixed in with Norse mythology. In the beginning of it, because we were still trying to find it, I think I was more interested in trying to maintain the Norse side of things as much as I could, as much as I thought I could get away with, and it was trying to get that balance of how much do you really need to keep of the comic book design and not lose [it]. Because you’re trying to reestablish an icon, just in a different medium, you know? And so it was kind of important to make sure we didn’t go too far Norse. [We looked at what] were all the recognizable things about Thor. His discs, obviously. Do you keep the helmet or not? Even [the] cape, that was also an issue. How much of it can you get away with trying to change while trying to recreate him to both the Norse side of things of things and the [comics’] world.

It's probably a safe bet that Ryan and Charlie also oversaw the design of Thor's slightly altered look in Thor: The Dark World. There's definitely a more viking-ish look to Thor which may be a reflection of director Alan Taylor's (Game of Thrones) visual sensibilities, similar to how Wen above stated that Whedon wanted a more superhero-ish look in The Avengers.


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KrazyForKomix - 9/13/2012, 9:09 AM
More color. Less Nolan batsuit.

KrazyForKomix - 9/13/2012, 9:10 AM
my bad. I see the blue in the pants.

I'm good to go.
Dedpool - 9/13/2012, 9:15 AM
Loving the loincloth like piece in the new armor.
third3ye - 9/13/2012, 9:16 AM
Miendering and Wen are keepers for Thor and Cap designs, Arad is the keeper for the IM designs. Wasn't a huge fan of M & W's take in IM2 except for WM, thought Arad's designs in IM and Avengers were much sleeker and fitting for Stark.
AlexDeLarge87 - 9/13/2012, 9:21 AM
New costume is cool but i wish it were sleeveless like the suit in Avengers.
jimoakley666 - 9/13/2012, 9:24 AM
To be honest, out of the four, I prefer the one from the first Thor movie. It's got more pewter to it so the reds and his blonde hair stand out more. That and it makes him look bigger with the shape of the chest piece.
sexfoodcomics - 9/13/2012, 9:29 AM
LOVE this guy. His Guardians of the Galaxy concept art is gorgous
sexfoodcomics - 9/13/2012, 9:30 AM
I actually like thors newest suit for Dark Worlds the best so far. It seems more natural and "real"
Kaziganthi - 9/13/2012, 9:32 AM
Ok on the differences between the second and third pics - is that supposed to be the same chest piece? Do the discs appear like the sleeves do? Or are they two completely different sets that just look similar?

I like the sleeveless look a little better but understand why Thor would want a little armor on his arms in battle.
OrganizedChaos - 9/13/2012, 9:44 AM
guess we'll never see Thor's helmet in any future movies...
Nemeres - 9/13/2012, 9:51 AM
It always kind of bothered me that Thor was wearing leather pants. He was basically a biker with a fancy chest armor and a cape.
jessepostal - 9/13/2012, 9:55 AM
I wonder what these guys get paid???
marvel72 - 9/13/2012, 9:58 AM
not long now until i own a copy of the best comic movie of all time.
HelaGood - 9/13/2012, 10:09 AM
i confirm JonathaNisMagnuM's comment!!
WinterSoldier24 - 9/13/2012, 10:22 AM
Can't wait for this A Captain America to drop! So stoked to see where Thor goes & if he "Rides the Lightning"--

third3ye - 9/13/2012, 10:50 AM
Mjolnir hasn't changed from Avengers to Thor 2, least as far as I can tell from those pics.
Seejay - 9/13/2012, 10:54 AM

The latest one is by far the best looking.

I hope they have made the shaft on Mjolnir just slightly longer.
GodzillaKart - 9/13/2012, 11:25 AM
Thor's designs just get better and better. In the first one, I hated the pants and boots. In TDW they look great.

I say no helmet. I'm glad it made an appearance in the first one...but it looks a little silly, and Hemsworth looks great without it.
TheDetectiveComicRises - 9/13/2012, 11:39 AM
@KrazyForKomix what does Nolan got to do with this? let it go any way I love the look of Thor's suit.
Gerrit - 9/13/2012, 11:41 AM
He looks better without the helmet. Though I think is a little unfair to compare the new suit with the others using set pictures, it looks good. For me, the more Norse mythology the better.
DalyBear - 9/13/2012, 11:42 AM
Interesting interview
neopunch - 9/13/2012, 12:09 PM
Don the helmet during battles at least! come on people! Anyway, Thor's costume keeps getting better and better, so I like the Thor 2 outfit by far. I never liked that razor grooves at the top of the chest piece. And I do believe that is CH's real hair.....
dahamma - 9/13/2012, 12:30 PM
I would like to see the helmet but im over it because they got Thor as a character right along with his powers and abilities.

All the suits look great but TDW is looking the best already! I mean it looks natural and idk just ancient and Norse Godlike. Cant wait to see this film.

@Marvel72, Heck yeah, Im watching the Avengers like a mad man when I own it. My blu ray player is gonna get sick of that disc.
GUNSMITH - 9/13/2012, 12:38 PM
AztecRainGod - 9/13/2012, 2:55 PM
The Thor and Avengers movie costume is good, but not great.

There is definitely too much black in the costume and not enough metal. They need to get a different guy to design the costume for Thor3. (Although its definitely looking better in Thor2)
ThePowerCosmic - 9/13/2012, 9:07 PM
I think I like Thor's Newest look the Best so far!
JorLBola - 9/13/2012, 9:18 PM
Very fashionable!... according to Asgard I guess :p
CeltiC527 - 9/13/2012, 9:41 PM
I liked how his suit has changed but I prefer how his hair and beard looked in the first film. His beard and eyebrows went from being blond to a drity blond, almost brown and his hair just looked funny to me in the Avengers.
AztecRainGod - 9/14/2012, 1:15 AM
Celtic527, I hope your a chick if its Chris's hair thats your main gripe.....
MutantEquality - 9/14/2012, 2:33 AM
Helmet please. That is all.

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