Venom Movie to Feature "Defender of the Innocent"

<em>Venom</em> Movie to Feature "Defender of the Innocent"

Venom movie will feature an anti-hero instead of a brain-eater!

Variety reports that the movie will transform Venom into “an anti-hero who becomes a defender of the innocent.”

The news appears to confirm what many have been hoping for, that the 'Venom' movie will feature the '90s era comic book 'Venom' in which the character was cast a "Lethal Protector."

Since the new movie is starting “from the drawing board," it’s not certain whether Topher Grace will reprise his role as Venom’s alter-ego, Eddie Brock and whether the events of Spider-Man 3 will either be explained or ignored.

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Josh Wilding
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Filed Under "Venom" 10/8/2009 Source: Variety
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TucsonRican - 10/8/2009, 12:09 PM
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 12:11 PM
Yeah we knew this, just like in the comics!!!!!!

Yeah, i know ive really gotta update my PURCELL pic, but he's our man!! He is EDDIE BROCK! ; )
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 12:11 PM
Good stuff @ JOSH!!
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 12:12 PM
I think this movie could end up being pretty good! I hope they dont ignore what happenned in Spider-Man 3 because however crap the storyline with Topher Grace was it would be even worse if they came up with some convoluted origin story in the spin off!
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 12:13 PM
Thanks LEE!
Shaman - 10/8/2009, 12:14 PM
This will indeed bomb. Sorry LEEE, i just can't see this fly. Movie goers know jack shit about Venom and all they had was that shit on a stick that Topher portrayed.
theeambassador - 10/8/2009, 12:16 PM
needs to be developed a bit more in 4, then go out and decide how to use his powers, don't just throw him into his own franchise
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 12:17 PM
Your right @ JOSH @ Though we dont want GRACE, We want PURCELLL!!! ; )

SHAMAN @ If movie goers paid to watch BORIGINS they will luv a real MARVEL movie!! This will be amazing!!


[frick] SPIDEY! ; D
ecksmanfan - 10/8/2009, 12:19 PM
Yeah, I'm with Shaman here. As much as I like Venom, this is a just a sad attempt to milk more money off the perverbial teet that is Spiderman. Even if they make him an "anti-hero," the last protrayal left such a bad taste from the formentioned Spidey teet.
KelRaeMora - 10/8/2009, 12:24 PM
That G4 interview with Brian Michael Bendis said that he and a few other select writer were being consulted about the direction of the movies. If they had the right people working on and in this movie (not Topher Grace) it could easily be highly entertaining. I think that if Fox was smart they would draw heavily from the Ultimate Spider-man universe, that comic series is one of the best I have ever read.
Set2Fallfirst - 10/8/2009, 12:24 PM
Im not sick of venom i want venom DONE RIGHT that is. If only we had a Time many things would have gone right in the world of comics...damn
thwhtGuardian - 10/8/2009, 12:26 PM
I don't think this movie will see the light of day
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 12:28 PM

Any red-blooded male, not wanting a VENOM movie has gotta be batting the other way!! ; D
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 12:31 PM
LEE: Too right - Purcell is perfect for Eddie Brock! They may have already been i a TV show together but these guys are perfect for Venom and Carnage!


thunderforce - 10/8/2009, 12:34 PM
I would go see that.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/8/2009, 12:37 PM
The only way this will ever work is if they go for the R rating, and then begs the question what about the non hardcore fans? Marvel already went on the record about R ratings so what's left, a watered down Venom movie. Why bother?
thunderforce - 10/8/2009, 12:37 PM
And if they are smart they could have a cameo of venom to help spiderman in a later spiderman movie
peterparker420 - 10/8/2009, 12:37 PM
like anti-venom!!
SpideyFan1982 - 10/8/2009, 12:39 PM
I think more folks want to

Spider-Man vs Carnage Or
Spider-Man/Venom Vs Carnage

just Venom Vs Carnage.

R rated comic movie don't make their budget.

Plus I don't think Venom could carry movie by himself.
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 12:40 PM
Anti-Venom is pretty cool! Anyone else been reading the characters new mini series?
LEEE777 - 10/8/2009, 12:41 PM

PP @ Too early for ANTI-VENOM man! ; D

Bandrews1 - 10/8/2009, 12:48 PM
I'm starting to actually look forward to this if they do it right, and Venom as an anti-hero would be good.
MetalHead - 10/8/2009, 1:03 PM
Sorry Josh, but you're completely wrong if you think that they shouldn't ignore the events of "Spider-Trash 3." That movie was F'ing horrible-- and I liked the first 2-- and it did no justice to Venom.

If you think that it shouldn't be ignored then I'm willing to bet (no offense intended, I'm saying this seriously) that you were a young kid when Venom debuted. I say this because I find that most people who are ok with what "Spider-Man 3" did to Venom didn't read him as he was coming out but read the majority of his stories later. I literally got every comic with even a one-page cameo of Venom the day they'd hit the newsstands. It's one thing to look back after not reading him month after month. It's a whole different thing counting down the seconds until the next issue would be released and being obsessed with a character and every aspect of them. And YES, physique AND attitude were just as important to Venom as the symbiote was.

I know it might sound stupid but it's true and I say this because if this is how someone follows a character they don't have as much invested mentally in the character if they are someone who just picks up a couple GNs and reads 4 years worth of appearances in 2 hours.

That being said, not only do they need to ignore the events in "Spider-Man 3," but they also need to issue a recall on all DVDs in circulation, delete it from existence and re-shoot the whole thing. (And I didn't even get into Mary Jane's operatic adventures!)

Back to topic, though, this is great news and LEEE, I've been all for your casting choices since you first suggested them forever ago. I think this movie COULD be awesome.
BmanHall - 10/8/2009, 1:07 PM
I really wish they'd back out of this decision. This movie will suck.
BryEL - 10/8/2009, 1:25 PM
Jesus, how is this movie gonna work after Spidey 3? You know what, I don't care, just cast a bulky dude and its sold for me. Oh, and for the true blue Venom fans, "Lethal Protector" is pure gold. Hands down.
Runefyst - 10/8/2009, 1:28 PM
LEEE - Your suggestions for Venom & Carnage are great choices! I've never even thought of Knepper for Carnage.

I always pictured Steve Buscemi (from Con-Air) as Carnage, but I think I'd like Knepper even better!

As for Venom being a lethal protector of the innocent. That's how I always thought of him. I mean, Venom sees himself as an innocent person, and blames Spider-Man for his shortcomings. So it's not that he's this villain, just that he sees Spidey as one.

I think seeing the stuggle Eddie Brock has with the symbiote would be great for a movie. They just need to get a new actor, because Topher Grace (the guy is great & that 70's show, but c'mon, Venom??)was not good for the role and the whole story surrounding Venom for Spidey 3 SUCKED. I'll be looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

superdog - 10/8/2009, 1:29 PM
it will work. people have short memories. maybe not fanboys, but the general public do. and dont forget spiderman 3 made the most out of the trilogy so maybe we hated it but the general public did not. therefore regardless of how they ass raped venom in out minds. for the rest of the public there ok with it.
DDD - 10/8/2009, 1:31 PM
Leee@, great casting, Purcell and Knepper would be phenomenal together as Venom and Carnage! I'd see this movie even if it was PG-13!
MetalHead - 10/8/2009, 1:38 PM
Keven, they don't necessarily need to use Carnage OR have Spider-Man. As I've suggested on here before, they could do a movie that is similar to the "Lethal Protector" mini-series and just remove Spider-Man's role from it as it wasn't necessary to the story working so it could be done.

As for Eddie Brock Lesnar, sorry folks, that ain't gonna happen. I'm not saying that it's a bad choice (I actually thought of it long before "Spider-Man 3" came out), the fact is that he's obsessed with being the best MMA fighter that he can possibly be. Supposedly he is OBSESSED. Oh, and that's all assuming that he can actually act. Either way, it's not happening. Not a bad choice, but not happening.
Runefyst - 10/8/2009, 1:41 PM
Keven - Out've curiosity, who would YOU cast for Venom & Carnage?
BmanHall - 10/8/2009, 1:49 PM
Knepper is a superb choice for Cletus Kasady. Purcell for Eddie Brock? Not so much...
Runefyst - 10/8/2009, 1:51 PM
I will say that Brock Lesner LOOKS the part, but I doubt he'd have the acting chops to play a convincing Venom.

MetalHead - 10/8/2009, 1:53 PM
Keven, I'm not opposed to Carnage, I just don't think he's necessary. They could actually make a really cool movie that's similar to "Lethal Protector" with The Jury out hunting Venom to avenge the death of their friend (the guard Venom killed when escaping The Vault) and with the agency that is hunting him wanting his symbiote. For those that don't know, that mini-series was the debut of the 5 other symbiotes Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher, and Agony. They could actually end the movie with that being the climax and the final battle.

As for Venom fighting Carnage, I personally think it would be cooler IF this movie is a success and then they did a sequel called "Venom vs. Carnage." If done right it could be badass. (Then again, what, if done right, couldn't be badass?)
MetalHead - 10/8/2009, 1:56 PM
Seriously, get over it-- it ain't happening. We get it, he looks like him. This is not breaking news. Speaking of "breaking news," I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you. Again, it would be cool IF it happened, but it's not gonna.
JohnnyKrypton - 10/8/2009, 1:59 PM

Dude. Brock Lesnar shouldn't even play Brock Lesnar lol
Shaman - 10/8/2009, 2:02 PM
This film will do just as good as Spawn and Ghost Rider. I'll be happy watching it, but i really don't know how much money it will pull. And if Lesnar was starring as the main role, it would go straight to BETA!!!
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 2:03 PM
MetalHead: Sorry man, but you're wrong! I hated Spider-Man 3 and everything about it! My first introduction to Venom was when I was a kid in the 90's watching the animated Spider-Man series and he's pretty much been my favourite character ever since! I've since read the graphic novels etc as well as many other of the characters appearences but you point about that making someone less invested in the character is nonsense - I've just watched Dexter Season 1 & 2 in a week having never seen it efore and just because I didnt have to wait a week between episodes doesnt mean I dont understand the character any less than someone who watched it weekly! Just because I never waited with anticipation between every issue of Venom doesnt mean you know any more about the character than I do! And if you had read my coment properly my point was that they shouldnt go through a confusing origin when they could slightly retcon the events of Spider-Man 3 and then maybe even bring the character back into the franchise at a later date. Oh and actually it was ME who first suggested casting Purcell and Knepper!
Osiris - 10/8/2009, 2:03 PM
@keven@ yeah and he was also in Prison Break and his character is loved by millions, he is also in Heroes season 4. Also Hitman was a decent movie closer to the source material then most video game movies.
MetalHead - 10/8/2009, 2:11 PM
I'm not trying to get into an argument with you here, I am just making a point.

First off, your Dexter reference is exactly my point. You are mistaken. I'm not saying that you don't like it as much as someone else. But what I am saying is that you never had to wait for (in this case) a week, or 10,020 minutes-- which seem like 10 times that many-- to see what was going to happen next. And yes, this DOES matter. The reason is that when you have to wait to see what happens next and doing so consumes your every thought until you do actually find out for sure, it makes you get inside the character's mind and see what might happen. This is something that someone watching a series in 2 days as opposed to over 3 months can not and will never be able to understand. So yes, it does make it different. The same is true waiting 30 days to see what would happen in the next issue.

As for your reference to Venom in the animated series, that show was HORRIBLE to Venom. AND, it came out long after Venom debuted, so you only prove exactly what I suspected-- you weren't introduced to him the way that others who read him from day one were and therefore "your" Venom isn't the same as "mine" because what I consider to be definitive Venom isn't what your introduction to him was.

Again, I'm not trying to argue with you. What I'm saying is that it's not the same and it's not.
JoshWilding - 10/8/2009, 2:19 PM
MetalHead: See, I dont see what you're saying at all! I watch plenty of TV shows on a week by week basis (House, Bones, 24, Smallville, Supernatural) but I enjoy them even more when I re watch them on DVD rather than having to wait! Just because this type of thing "consumes your every thought" doesnt mean it does mine! The season 4 finale of Supernatural for example was a huge cliffhanger - I thought about it for half a day, got on with my life and quietly lookied forward to Season 5 - had I watched the first episode of S5 10mins later (as I've done with dexter for example) it would make no difference to my understanding or feelings towards the character! If both you and I were to pick up two comic books today and i read both at once whilst you waited a week between, that wouldnt mean you had any better understanding or knowledge of the character! Your point s completely nonsensical to me! I understand that someone who follows a character for years become invested in that character but so does some one reading years of stuff in a few days! You're still reading/watching the same a different pace! And though that was my first introduction to the character I've seen enough since to know who and what Venom is!
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