Simon Kinberg Says X-MEN: APOCALYPSE Will Present the 'Darkest Leader' In the Franchise

Simon Kinberg Says X-MEN: APOCALYPSE Will Present the 'Darkest Leader' In the Franchise

While vaguely dishing out X-Men: Days of Future Past spoilers (you've be warned), the writer/producer speaks lengthily about X-Men: Apocalypse, Channing Tatum's Gambit, and more. Check it out!

Supposedly while on the Louisiana set of The Fantastic Four reboot, writer/producer Simon Kinberg had a phone chat with Movie Pilot about X-Men: Days of Future Past, which hit theaters today, and more prominently about its much-anticipated sequel, X-Men: Apocalypse. Given that the former Bryan Singer-directed film's post-credits scene introduces the titular villain of the latter, Kinberg first explained how he's approaching Apocalypse as a leader on par with Magneto and Professor X. 

"What the comics do best and I think Bryan's done so well with these movies is humanizing, dramatizing the characters," he said. "It's really been about how do we give him [Apocalypse], most importantly, a very human and relatable motivation so that as extreme and insane as his methods are, there is something, you know, understandable, almost empathetic about his motivation. Some of that is in the books, some of that is us building on that. You know, fully dimensionalizing the character, but it is a huge part of the task of adapting the story of Apocalypse. It is making him, while larger than life also dow to a human, emotional scale." He added, "
We're definitely approaching him as a super charismatic leader that will draw people to his cause. So far, in the X-Men movies, there really are two leaders. You know, there's Eric/Magneto and what he did with the Brotherhood and Charles/Professor Xavier and what he did with the X-Men. Apocalypse presents a new leader, the darkest leader in the franchise."

The Fox producer/screenwriter then went to reveal that X-Men Apocalypse will have higher stakes than Days of Future Past and that its visual style will draw inspiration from a different timeline. "I had read Age of Apocalypse and most of the appearances of Apocalypse before thinking about the movie, but went back and reread it and I think one of the things that's most exciting about it is the potential for the visual scale of the movie, and so it is a larger story than even Days of Future Past," Kinberg explained. "In Days of Future Past, they're trying to stop something that's not extinction level in the moment, although it could be one day. There's not an immediacy in the plot and this is a plot that actually has extinction level stakes and is even more global than anything we've ever seen before. There's a lot of architecture from the stories that we'll be using. It will be about his character emotionally, you know, like who is he? Not just as a mutant, but as a person."
Simon Kinberg then confirmed that the 2016 film will not feature time-travel despite that being the main plot device in X-Men: Days of future Past. "The Apocalypse story has a lot of different ways of telling stories," he said. "That was one of the things that I liked about Days of Future Past: Doing a time travel movie where it's not just sending someone back in time, but actually intercutting between the past and the future that we really haven't seen in a movie before. Usually you have somebody go back and stay in the past the whole movie. Apocalypse has some, without getting into detail, as you know from the books, has some innovative, different ways of storytelling also." After commenting on recent Oscar-winner Lupita Nyong'o being a fan-favorite for the younger iteration of Halle Berry's Storm"I've certainly been reading about it; she's a great actress", Kinberg addressed actor Channing Tatum being attached to the role of Gambit, who is expected to be introduced in X-Men: Apocalypse before getting his own solo movie. "I think Gambit's one of the coolest characters that hasn't been heavily featured," he continued. "I mean, he was in the first Wolverine movie, but he hasn't really been heavily featured in the main X-Men movies. I think Channing will be amazing playing him. What I like about the character is that my favorite characters in the comics are anti-heroes like Batman, like Wolverine, like Iron Man. I think Gambit fits into that classification because he's a thief, he's rogue, he's a little destructive. I think he's one of the more dynamic characters in the X-Men world. He's certainly one as a fan that could be explored more." What do you think?

So far starring Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy, Nicholas Hoult, and Jennifer Lawrence, with Bryan Singer producing and possibly directing, X-Men: Apocalypse will release on May 27, 2016.
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OnePunchBaldy - 5/23/2014, 3:29 PM
Interesting. I really can't wait until Apocalypse. Days of Future Past was [frick]ing excellent.
DEVLIN712 - 5/23/2014, 3:30 PM
Kinberg is the unsung hero of DoFP, he deserves a HUGE amount of praise. Couldn't be happier that he's writing Apocalypse
MrBlackJack - 5/23/2014, 3:32 PM
Even though I haven't seen DOFP for myself, it looks as if most agree it's one of the greatest of all time. I said that it felt like that's they way it was going to be going after trailer #2, and I was called a Fox apologist. lol.
MrBlackJack - 5/23/2014, 3:33 PM
Oh, and I'm seeing DOFP tomorrow (at least we plan to), reading all this only gets me more hyped up!
Jollem - 5/23/2014, 3:35 PM
bring it on, sirs
Desrow - 5/23/2014, 3:35 PM
I will se X-MEN DOFP tomorrow too :D
ScorpioRisin - 5/23/2014, 3:38 PM
DOFP was so [frick]ing cool.
ezio619 - 5/23/2014, 3:39 PM
a very interesting take on apocalypse..that sounds really cool....besides that depressing edgar wright news which has bummed my weekend....i am very excited to see DOFP this weekend
WinterSoldier33 - 5/23/2014, 3:40 PM
2016 is going to be awesome

batman v superman
cap 3
black panther(i hope)
sinister six(i think, not sure)
Kurne - 5/23/2014, 3:40 PM


MexicanSexyman - 5/23/2014, 3:45 PM
I bet that 40 year old man named Nomis is on suicide watch after this movie.
JoJo1982 - 5/23/2014, 3:57 PM
Ya'll started off in the right direction
All I ask is this.... plz don't screw up Apocalypse!
TheRationalNerd - 5/23/2014, 3:58 PM
I'm cool with Lupita as the "rebooted" Storm but it honestly won't make any sense at all for her to be a younger version of Halle Berry's Storm. Cultural, acting and even beauty wise she's a great candidate but to say she's a younger version of Halle Berry is stretching it.
Shaanyboi - 5/23/2014, 4:03 PM
seeing DoFP in 24 hours.... GOD DAMNIT, I CAN'T WAIT
TheRationalNerd - 5/23/2014, 4:05 PM
Since Fox is big on big time actors I wouldn't be suprised I they cast Lupita. But I thought about how they showed younger versions of Storm in Origins and First Class with actresses that resembled Halle Berry's complexion. I think Keke Palmer would e an alright candidate too, but Lupita just has those roots that Storm needs. I love both o my chocolate and caramel sistas so I hope no one takes my words in a discriminative way.
Ramiel - 5/23/2014, 4:07 PM
Fantastic movie. Let's see if Marvel/Disney and WB/DC can top the epicness that was DOFP with Avengers 2 and BvS.
Hellboy6666 - 5/23/2014, 4:08 PM
God damn it please no Channing really just dissolves all of my interest in apocalypse
Jollem - 5/23/2014, 4:09 PM
@BlackNerd - what's wrong with chocolate and caramel? they're delicious
JoJo1982 - 5/23/2014, 4:11 PM

Well look at tatum and Taylor
Look at all 3 different actress we got for Kitty
2 different actors for Toad
2 different actress for Mystique
You see where I'm going with this
CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:12 PM
Fox is in a great position to cast some impressive up and coming actors for their younger versions of Storm, Jean and Cyclops.
While Lupita as Storm is amazing. She's perhaps a little too old and I don't think they'd "reboot" Storm but more like get someone to play a younger Halle Berry.

slyjason - 5/23/2014, 4:13 PM
dare I say....Super Ultra Mega Turbo Good
MarvelmaniaVII - 5/23/2014, 4:14 PM
Soo Xmen story line hands down...
CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:14 PM
Indy - 5/23/2014, 4:14 PM
I loved DOFP new favorite X-men movie.
ManofSteel23 - 5/23/2014, 4:15 PM
everything good about days of future past, was in the trailers..everything
slyjason - 5/23/2014, 4:16 PM
Also...proud owner of the comics...sweeeeeet
MarvelWeiner - 5/23/2014, 4:18 PM
you've be warned.
ezio619 - 5/23/2014, 4:19 PM
ramiel-i dont know why they need to top it, we cant all three of these films just be good or great films on their own
ezio619 - 5/23/2014, 4:19 PM
also this take on apocalypse sounds awesome......cant wait!!!
Jollem - 5/23/2014, 4:20 PM
i like what they did with halle's hair in dofp

CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:20 PM
Bring back Andrej Pejic as young Apocalypse
OnePunchBaldy - 5/23/2014, 4:21 PM
Lupita is the perfect storm. I would love if they chose her. Not to mention she's just down right beautiful... don't even get me started on her.
OnePunchBaldy - 5/23/2014, 4:22 PM
So i'm guessing this confirms that it will take place with the McAvoy/Fassbender timeline? (idk what to call it). Good so we can have a young Cyclops, Jean and Storm as well. Nice.
Omarvls - 5/23/2014, 4:24 PM
DOFP was so Ballistic
I can't wait to see what Fox does with Fantastic Four

CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:25 PM

Yeah, apparently according to McAvoy it's happening in the 80's. But Blink is also appearing, so not quite sure.
I think maybe time travel will happen again.
CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:26 PM

Exactly! Fox has stopped playing games and are bringing it. I have faith in F4 now.
gamecreatorjj - 5/23/2014, 4:26 PM
@MrblackJack I feel you, I have been called crazy for thinking it would quality. I remember when no one had faith in First Class and then the trailer released, I remember when no one had faith in the Wolverine, then people saw it. Geez people need to start holding their tongues when it comes to Fox and X-Men
CherryBomb - 5/23/2014, 4:27 PM
Darthzilla - 5/23/2014, 4:31 PM
I under stand that, but can we get a villain that's just evil for the fvck of it and done well? I don't think I need to see the villain's sympathetic side every time in these movies.
Jollem - 5/23/2014, 4:34 PM
the winter bucky was pretty much your standard, bad antagonist
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