DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Spoilers Reveal How Long After WANDAVISION The Movie Takes Place

Some spoilery plot details for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness reveal how much time will have passed between the events of WandaVision and this movie, but that's just the tip of the iceberg!

By JoshWilding - Sep 13, 2021 01:09 AM EST

Filed Under: In the Multiverse of Madness

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is one of Marvel Studios' most secretive upcoming projects, but The Cosmic Circus claims to have learned some new details about what we should expect.

Up until this point, there have been a lot of conflicting theories about whether the Scarlet Witch will be an antagonist or protagonist following the events of WandaVision. Now, the site reveals that two years will have passed since we last saw Wanda Maximoff in WandaVision, and it sounds like the Avenger's time with the Darkhold has definitely had an impact on her outlook.

Apparently, the Doctor Strange sequel will find the Sorcerer Supreme forced to make a difficult choice: abide by the Hippocratic Oath he took as a doctor to do no harm or kill someone who is putting reality itself at risk. That person is the Scarlet Witch, as "Wanda’s actions will force Stephen and the Sorcerors of Kamar Taj (among others) to intervene in an attempt to subdue Wanda."

The site adds that Agatha Harkness' prophecy about the risk Wanda poses will finally come true here, but as the Scarlet Witch's powers increase, the threat she poses "will be far too much for any one person to handle." Ultimately, Strange will need to choose between attempting to save Wanda's life or ending it, "with the Multiverse paying the consequences for his decision."

There's a lot to digest here, though this does line up with what we expected to see in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Wanda is more than likely tearing her way through the Multiverse to find Billy and Tommy, which could reality at serious risk of being destroyed.

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VicSage - 9/13/2021, 1:44 AM

Perfect. Just, perfect.

Raimi understands tragic villainy and the struggles of being a hero -- from the page to the screen. I cannot wait to see this film.

Up there with The Batman as my most anticipated CBMs to be released.

Warneford87 - 9/13/2021, 1:46 AM

@VicSage - same. Sam Raimi is an absolute master. It’s gonna be absolutely bonkers. Cannot wait.

dracula - 9/13/2021, 1:59 AM

@VicSage - too bad he never got to do a Thor movie, that was his choice for adaption before Spiderman

Was also rejected to take over the batman series from tim burton

dracula - 9/13/2021, 1:45 AM

Wonder if the events will have something to do with everything being frozen in no way home

RedHood92 - 9/13/2021, 1:48 AM

dragon316 - 9/13/2021, 2:54 AM

@CaptainStark - 😂

TheManWithoutFear - 9/13/2021, 2:28 AM

Well there's no way that Strange is going to choose to "end Wanda's life".

But as others have said i am mega excited for this one and for Raimi's return to Marvel.

dragon316 - 9/13/2021, 2:55 AM

@TheManWithoutFear - I would have like see him kill her be mega twist that no one will expect

Typhoon20 - 9/13/2021, 4:11 AM

@dragon316 - Would have been amazing if he killed her and then spirals downwards internally because there's no living with a killing. His entire Outlook on life is to save, not kill. To see him break that oath would create for an amazing film in the 3rd film.

Shivermetimbers - 9/13/2021, 5:30 AM

@TheManWithoutFear - well, he could kill her but the character could live on through another incarnation thanks to the multiverse.

IKidYouNotMan - 9/13/2021, 7:23 AM

@Shivermetimbers - wasn’t Wanda called a Nexus in the multiverse which is MCU’s version of saying there’s only one of her?

JonC - 9/13/2021, 10:32 AM

@IKidYouNotMan - If i recall, a Nexus was referred to by the TVA as a specific event, not necessarily a person. Nexus was referred to in a commercial within the WandaVision show.

Himura - 9/13/2021, 2:31 AM

I, for one, am glad the MCU is finally giving Scarlet Witch the respect she deserves as being one of the most powerful mutants out there. Like yeah, everyone should definitely be afraid of her. Even when she's a zombie.

Repian - 9/13/2021, 2:49 AM

I can imagine Mordo dividing the Sorcerors of Kamar Taj. Mordo will lead the sorcerers who want to kill Wanda. So, Doctor Strange will lead the sorcerers who want to "imprison" her. Finally, Mordo and his followers will inhabit Kamar Taj.

BroskiTroski - 9/13/2021, 2:54 AM

It's going to be hilarious if the Multiverse of Madness takes the correct stance that Wanda's actions are not to be undermined and are quite selfish and serious. Then every time I go back to WandaVision I'm just gonna have to sit through the terrible finale again and watch as characters I'm supposed to root for say nonsense like "they will never know what you sacrificed for them" and "I would have done it too". Lol

JonC - 9/13/2021, 10:33 AM

@BroskiTroski - those words were appropriate for the time.. but wanda is likely to be on a journey to do a lot more damage and those people would not likely say the same words after future events.

dagenspear - 9/13/2021, 11:33 AM

@JonC - They weren't.

BroskiTroski - 9/14/2021, 12:18 PM

@JonC - I personally think that kidnapping children, holding people hostage, robbing their free will, torturing them for weeks to the point where they ask for death, and using your children to fight the government are ever “appropriate”. But okay.

RitoRevolto - 9/13/2021, 3:29 AM

Well. That doesn't sound foreboding at all. Do we know how many movies are left on Elizabeth Olsen's contract? Starting to seem like we're nearing the end of Wanda's time in the MCU. I don't think this is her last film, per se, but if she's going bad and causing that much damage to the multiverse... 😬

DarthOmega - 9/13/2021, 3:35 AM

I want a straight up badass ultra powerful villain with Wanda in MoM. That last image of her was probably one of my favorite moments from this new phase.

Typhoon20 - 9/13/2021, 4:16 AM

The What if episode was great because it was just about Strange. Not a big fan of Scarlet Witch being in this, takes away from Dr Strange.

DarthOmega - 9/13/2021, 4:19 AM

@Typhoon20 - Interesting, that's what the creators said about Strange in Wandavision. Apparently a version had him explain things to Wanda.

JonC - 9/13/2021, 10:36 AM

@Typhoon20 - Every hero needs a villain

dagenspear - 9/13/2021, 11:31 AM

@DarthOmega - Or he could've just showed up and shown that he doesn't suck.

CLTMAN29 - 9/13/2021, 4:23 AM

So originally, we were supposed to get this before No Way Home.
This is now confirmed to be set in 2025, then we’d have jumped back To 2023 for NWH.

Glad they’ve shifted them around now....cos this tome jump coupled with Covid has caused mayhem!

MosquitoFarmer - 9/13/2021, 6:29 AM

Sounds pretty dark... and then I remembered how fun it will be with Sam Raimi at the helm. Oh yay!

Dredd97 - 9/13/2021, 6:38 AM

Nice! Love a good dilemma. Excited about another Ditko adaption from Raimi!

WeaponXCII - 9/13/2021, 8:46 AM

“Apparently, the Doctor Strange sequel will find the Sorcerer Supreme forced to make a difficult choice: abide by the Hippocratic Oath he took as a doctor to do no harm or kill someone who is putting reality itself at risk.”

I hope that this isn’t an official explanation or anything, because if it is, someone at Marvel doesn’t have a good understanding of the Hippocratic Oath. Plus there’s the issue of why “doing no harm” was never a problem for strange before. I know- minor nitpicks for some, but it feels more significant to me.

NinnesMBC - 9/13/2021, 9:31 AM

If that is the main conflict of the MoM movie then it sounds pretty good. Strange having to struggle with not taking a life as his oath commands him vs figuring out how he could stop a sorcerer that just keeps getting stronger then longer he lets her go unchecked as well as dealing with Mordo's possible return.

Mordo acccused Strange of "lacking a spine" after all in the first movie.

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