Margot Robbie Shares Her Thoughts On Harley Quinn's Off-Screen Death In ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE

The "Knightmare" scene in Zack Snyder's Justice League confirmed that Harley Quinn died in Batman's arms, but that was news to Margot Robbie, and she's now shared her reaction to the character's demise...

By JoshWilding - Jul 12, 2021 08:07 AM EST

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Harley Quinn has quickly become one of the DC Extended Universe's most popular characters, and much of that comes down to Margot Robbie. She'll reprise the role in The Suicide Squad next month, but also received a mention in the new scenes added to Zack Snyder's Justice League.

In the movie's epilogue, we learned that Harley died in Batman's arms after first getting him to promise to kill The Joker.

She crossed paths with the Caped Crusader in 2016's Suicide Squad, and even locked lips with him, so the line did make sense for the most part. However, when Entertainment Weekly told Robbie about her character's off-screen death, it came as a complete suprise as she's yet to sit down to watch the "Snyder Cut."

"Whaaat? I didn't know that. [Laughs] Thank you for telling me!" she began after learning of Harley's demise. "I guess it's kind of like the comics. The film version of the DC universe, I actually think they're a lot like the comics. You pick up one comic and something's happening and then you pick up the next comic and maybe that character's not alive, maybe that character's not with that person, maybe that character looks completely different. Each movie is its own sort of thing, and I think that works in the comic book world, and I think that works in the DC film world as well."

"It's not like Marvel where everything is more obviously linked in a more linear way. It feels like there's so many adjacent stories, worlds, and films happening at the same time, just like there are in the comics," Robbie continued. "So, yeah, I didn't know that, but it doesn't necessarily change what other people are able to do with this universe, I don't think. What one director decides I don't think dictates what another director might be able to pick up and do with the world and the characters, which is fun. I think that's an appealing aspect for directors in the DC world, they can make it their own, the way James did. He didn't have to be beholden to the version that David Ayer set up. He could pick it up and make it his own, which I'm sure was more appealing for him."

Harley's eventual death is unlikely to ever be referenced in the DCEU seeing as Warner Bros. is looking to move on from Zack Snyder's vision for this shared world. However, Robbie's take on the way these movies all tie together - or don't - is interesting and a much better explanation than the ones we've heard from various studio executives over the past few years.

As for what comes next for Harley Quinn on the big screen, the actress has admitted to being unsure, but you have to hope there are some plans in place for the fan-favourite anti-hero moving forward.

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10. Poison Ivy

The last time we saw Poison Ivy on the big screen, Uma Therman was hamming it up as the villain in the abysmal Batman & Robin. A faithful take on this character – whose desire to save the world’s plant life as an ecoterrorist of sorts is more relevant today than ever – is without a doubt long overdue, and this Harley Quinn movie is perhaps the perfect place to bring her back.

The dynamic between Harley and Ivy is well worth exploring, and that's particularly the case due to recent comic books confirming that their relationship is a romantic one.

Delving into that would be a big step forward for the genre, while it just so happens to be something fans have been desperate to see for years now. That aside, Ivy is a great character in her own right, and someone with a tonne of potential to really shine in an upcoming DC Comics movie.

9. Wacky Weapons

Harley certainly had her fair share of unique weapons in Birds of Prey, but they were all pretty grounded, and taking things down a sillier route now wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.

From "Ha-Ha" knuckle-dusters to oversized guns, realism really should be thrown out of the window here for the sake of doing this fan-favourite anti-hero justice on the big screen. After all, the reason DC Universe's animated series is so popular is because it embraces Harley's crazy world.

A Harley Quinn movie doesn't need to go too over the top (to the point where it's not remotely realistic), but let the character have fun with some of the weapons fans love from the comics.

8. Ties To The Wider DC Extended Universe

Birds of Prey referenced the events of Suicide Squad, but only in a very vague way. Beyond her broken relationship with The Joker, you'd never know that Harley hated Amanda Waller or struck up an unlikely friendship (and potential romance) with Deadshot.

The best we got was a nod to the fact Harley recognised Captain Boomerang, and while the DC Extended Universe is growing increasingly standalone in nature, we'd hope that a Harley Quinn movie like this wouldn't be quite as cut off from this world as Birds of Prey.

For starters, it should absolutely tie into James Gunn's The Suicide Squad in some way, while also acknowledging Harley's history that we have seen on screen...and some we haven't too.

7. The Classic Costume

This was spotted in Suicide Squad, but that's about as close as the DC Extended Universe has ever really got to using it. It may not be the most realistic costume from the comic books, but that blink and you'd miss it moment with Harley dancing alongside The Joker proves that it a) works on screen, and b) would look pretty damn cool to boot.

We're not even suggesting Harley wears this for an entire movie, but getting to see Margot Robbie's take on the character kicking butt while decked out in it would be welcomed by fans.

Perhaps this is something we could see in flashbacks? After all, Harley's time terrorising Gotham City alongside the Clown Prince of Crime has only ever been addressed on a surface level.

6. Putting The Guys In Their Place

One of the most enjoyable parts of Harley Quinn’s adventures is seeing her put guys like Batman and Green Arrow in their place. The take no nonsense anti-hero doesn’t hesitate to run circles around them both physically and verbally, and that’s something which needs to make it into this movie.

Birds of Prey sort of went down this route, but spent the entire movie emphasising the fact that men are terrible. That's actually kind of true, but it alienated some viewers and was too heavy-handed.

There are ways to address sexism and feminism meaningfully, without it feeling over the top and actually making it fun. Hence, we'd like to see her outsmart heroes like the ones mentioned above.

5. Plenty Of Humour

Suicide Squad had a lot of humour shoehorned into it, and that's why director David Ayer is now pushing Warner Bros. to #ReleaseTheAyerCut of his 2016 movie. Birds of Prey delivered a lot of laughs, of course, but it wasn't quite as funny as movies like Thor: Ragnarok and Deadpool.

Bringing in some female comedy writers for this spinoff would be a smart move, and the first true DC Extended Universe comedy might open up a lot of new storytelling avenues to Warner Bros.

Dedicating an entire movie to Harley Quinn getting over a breakup was a solid way to help her move on from The Joker, but it didn't lead to a lot of laughs, and arguably wasn't the best way to approach a story revolving around this character. She's a fun and weird personality, and while Harley deserves an impactful storyline, a movie more in line with Deadpool's would be better.

4. Bring Back The Birds Of Prey

As we mentioned, we loved Birds of Prey here at CBM, and while it did sort of drop the ball on giving characters like Huntress and Black Canary the screentime they deserve, we do want to see more of them. A spinoff of their own makes sense, but bringing them back here would be welcomed.

Chances are it would be a minor role, of course, but seeing Harley confront Green Arrow and Black Canary, for example, could lead to a fun exchange, and a pretty badass fight scene to boot.

If nothing else, this Harley Quinn movie could reintroduce the Birds of Prey to audiences in a big way, and reboot them to an extent so they're more in line with their comic book counterparts.

3. Batgirl

Thinking about all of the great female DC Comics characters who could show up here, a very long list of names come to mind. However, Barbara Gordon definitely needs to be included in some way.

Like fellow Batman & Robin character Poison Ivy, it’s about time Batgirl returns to the big screen, and while she's deserving of her own movie, she could be used here similar to Colossus in Deadpool. The Merc with the Mouth was at his best with a straight man like that or Cable, and the same could be the case with Harley as she finds herself forced to work alongside this sidekick.

While using her here in her Oracle persona (Barbara was left in a wheelchair after being shot by The Joker and went on to provide both the Birds of Prey and Batman with intel from their base) has some potential, Batgirl is arguably far more essential to the DCEU right now.

2. A PG-13 Rating This Time

The decision to give Birds of Prey an R-Rating really didn't pay off for Warner Bros. Like Deadpool, Harley Quinn works well in that setting, but she's also massively popular with younger moviegoers, particularly teenage girls. From a business perspective alone, that makes sense, and it definitely seemed like that R-Rated tone didn't do these characters that many favours.

Harley doesn't need a face full of cocaine or a long list of F-bombs to be funny and crazy, and while putting her in a family friendly setting might feel like a step backwards, look how well Thor's reinvention worked in Thor: Ragnarok; with the right creative team working on a project like this, Harley could be amusing, potentially push the boundaries, and remain compelling.

This rating might just be needed to convince a lot of moviegoers to give the character another chance, because one more disappointment, and Harley's time on screen could reach its end.

1. The Joker

The decision to have Harley Quinn break up with The Joker was a completely understandable one, and there's really no need for the character to be trapped in what is truly an abusive relationship.

However, making the Clown Prince of Crime on off-screen presence didn't really work, and the end to their relationship could have played out far more effectively had she been able to come face to face with him. With that in mind, a cameo here which could be a flashback or excuse for Harley to kick her ex-Puddin's ass, reuniting them on screen has plenty of potential.

It's not the biggest priority in all honesty, but it feels like there are better ways to wrap things up between these two and it Harley could get proper closure by physically putting him in his place.

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aurorsand146 - 7/12/2021, 8:05 AM

That honestly was such a nice and smart comment without any shade or snyde. Margot is really the one.

KingLeonidas - 7/12/2021, 8:29 AM

@aurorsand146 - They should have told her it is a dream sequence. She does not actually die.

DaHyro - 7/12/2021, 9:29 AM

@KingLeonidas - Is it a dream sequence, though? Barry from that moment/time goes back to warn Bruce about Lois.

Now that I think of it, I don’t think Zack has an answer to this question either lmao

Origame - 7/12/2021, 9:42 AM

@aurorsand146 - she's the one? Oh no. We're in the matrix!

Ha1frican - 7/12/2021, 10:00 AM

@KingLeonidas - How do people still not understand that Knightmare is very clearly the future that Batman and Barry are attempting to rewrite

dragon316 - 7/12/2021, 10:33 AM

@DaHyro - lend you fantasy made up dictionary I look up word lmao in real world dictionary nothing comes I read fantasy dictionary for fantasy word I will know what it means ., lmao = look ma angry ostrich

KingLeonidas - 7/12/2021, 11:43 AM

@DaHyro - It is. They literally show Bruce waking up from a dream.

KingLeonidas - 7/12/2021, 11:43 AM

@Ha1frican - It is a dream. He wakes up after it.

Ha1frican - 7/12/2021, 12:05 PM

@KingLeonidas - You mean just like the “dream” he had in BvS where Barry very clearly breaks the time barrier and merges the two timelines giving him memories from his future self? The Knightmare being the intended future was not only really obvious but also has been confirmed for years even before Snyder left JL. You even see it when Cyborg is being shown the future when the scout ship brings Superman back to life

LlamaLord - 7/12/2021, 3:25 PM

@DaHyro - It's a vision of the future/alternate timeline that they're trying to remove from existence. The plotlines for JL2 and 3 are already floating around the interwebs and answers those questions. So yes, he does know what it is.

soberchimera - 7/12/2021, 8:05 AM

I mean, it took place in a possible future that WB is probably never gonna acknowledge again.

Se4M4NSt4ine - 7/12/2021, 8:05 AM

I think she’s onto something here. If DC continues to just focus on making solo movies with a mindset of giving the directors free reign, then I’m sure us as the audience can disconnect from trying to follow any sort of linear story… exactly like a comic book!

mastakilla39 - 7/12/2021, 8:17 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - I don't know, it just sounds convoluted and confusing to me because that means there is no "definitive" iteration this generation. Its as dumb as having a bunch of different actors and movies for batman, crow, or james bond with no connections or consistent plot.

It can deliver the fun and make money, but the investment into the story and character's future is pointless then.

Cbmfilmjunkie - 7/12/2021, 8:32 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - It makes sense to us “nerds” but the general public is confused as hell.

When I talk to non comic fans they have so many questions when it comes to DC.

“Why so many Batmans”
“Is The Suicide Squad a sequel to Suicide Squad”
“Will Joaquin Phoenix fight Robert Pattinson”

It gets mad confusing and hard to explain.

Marvel’s more linear and interconnected way of filmmaking is more general audience friendly.

Se4M4NSt4ine - 7/12/2021, 9:30 AM

@mastakilla39 - yeah maybe you’re right, but I guess that comes down to us trying to micro manage and force movies to make sense side by side, when in honesty only 10!years ago, we weren’t so bothered by the entitlement of having one connective shared universe?

Se4M4NSt4ine - 7/12/2021, 9:32 AM

@Cbmfilmjunkie - i completely get that argument, but man I’ll say people are far too entitled with movie experiences these days, everyone wanting to know how this (or) that works… in the famous words of Tarantino:

“Just watch the [frick]ing movie to find out.” 😎

GwenLantern - 7/12/2021, 9:50 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - "Just like there are in the comics" is the excuse DC keeps using, but both DC and Marvel comics have each had a singular universe with it's own continuity since the 1930s. Yes there are What Ifs and Elsewiorlds, but most comics on the shelves are part of a canon, unless they're tie-ing into a TV show or are specifically an What If.

We don't have multiple DC universes running concurrently week in week out.

HannibalLecter - 7/12/2021, 11:26 AM

@Se4M4NSt4ine - I'm pretty sure they tried to make the DCEU one shared universe with a linear story until it failed and that's why we are getting all these soft reboots now.

Se4M4NSt4ine - 7/12/2021, 12:06 PM

@HannibalLecter - my comments are all in direct to Robbie’s response to the state of the current DCEU, not the past.

Ryos - 7/12/2021, 12:50 PM

@mastakilla39 - I agree with you completely…. But crow?!? Like the crow? You mean you watched those sequels after city of darkness?!?!? One of us

Goldboink - 7/12/2021, 1:04 PM

@Se4M4NSt4ine -
I have been mulling that over and it's not a bad idea. Every creative team on a particular run of comics is telling kind of a unique story. Maintaining such a complex narrative as Marvel is doing isn't necessary for every CBM. Just make a good movie where you give a shit about the characters, there is a coherent story and boom, no need to get all worked up about it.

Look at Deadpool. There were a few X-Men links but they were not necessary in the least.

Look at the Nolan Batman movies, no muss, no fuss, complete story.

MosquitoFarmer - 7/12/2021, 8:09 AM

Less cool ways to die than in Batman's arms, I suppose.

JFerguson - 7/12/2021, 8:10 AM

“The film version of the DC universe, I actually think they're a lot like the comics.”

Doomsday8888 - 7/12/2021, 8:11 AM

She knows her comics.

bkmeijer2 - 7/12/2021, 8:15 AM

I agree it works with the comics that there are multiple stories run next to each other, but I never really thought that worked with movies/tv.

It is a personal preference, but I do like things to be connected. I haven't picked up a lot of Marvel and DC shows because they are not part of a larger universe. It might be the general audience member speaking in me, but I think it has reached a point where I don't know anymore what show and what movie is connected.

I'll admit it doesn't have to be connected to be good, but with such a big market I do have to choose between shows and such because I don't have time to watch it all.

LameLuka - 7/12/2021, 8:15 AM

That's how the DCEU is, and not in a good way.
WB can forget about beating the MCU let alone get close to its success. Can't wait for Marvel to destroy them with their Multiverse storyline in the movies.

mrbioshock1984 - 7/12/2021, 8:53 AM

@TyrantBossMedia - I think Kevin got this and people still question him after years of success. Now WB is starting to scare me with having no damn plan.

TheMapleSyrup - 7/12/2021, 8:21 AM

What a stupid stinger to add on an otherwise fine movie. All the extra crap really looked amateurish and forced

dracula - 7/12/2021, 8:28 AM

Funny how snyder cult is fine with that, yet cant handle Superman getting his ass kicked by Bloodsport off screen. Newsflash it happened in the comics

dracula - 7/12/2021, 8:37 AM

@TyrantBossMedia - eh at times they are both as bad

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