TERMINATOR: DARK FATE - 8 Major New Reveals From Comic-Con Including Arnie's New Name And The Movie's Rating

There hasn't really been a huge amount of positive buzz about the sixth Terminator movie up until now, but some huge new details revealed during last night's Comic-Con panel might help change that...

By JoshWilding - Jul 19, 2019 08:07 AM EST

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After three pretty terrible Terminator movies, it's fair to say that a lot of fans aren't exactly counting down the days until Terminator: Dark Fate is released. There's certainly a lot about the movie that looks great and it's seemingly in safe hands with Deadpool director Tim Miller, but can it escape the failings of previous instalments and put things back on track?

Well, there was a panel devoted to the movie at Comic-Con yesterday evening and a lot of very exciting information has come to light which could help get you really psyched for this one.

From returning characters to details on Terminator: Dark Fate's rating and the T-800's new name, there's a lot here to discuss, and we even have a lengthy description of the trailer that was shown to fans. Unfortunately, that hasn't been released online yet but should debut in the coming weeks.

To check out these new details about the movie, all you have to to is hit the "View List" button!

It Won't Feature Avengers: Endgame-Style Time-Travel

"The time-travel, for me, I loved Endgame I think it's fantastic. However, I feel like time-travel with multiple realities loses some stakes," director Tim Miller said regarding how this sci-fi adventure differs to the superhero ensemble after it brought time-travel back to theaters in a big way.

"If you can change time and it can be anything. I feel like you lose a little bit of the dramatic stakes. So, in the Terminator universe, there is only one timeline. If you change something in the past, it rolls forward and changes something in the future." He added that idea ties back into the first two films and noted that this one will deal with "the consequences of destroying Cyberdine."

The Movie Is Officially Rated "R"

This is bound to be music to the ears of many fans: Terminator: Dark Fate is officially R-Rated!

"The DNA of Terminator is an R-rated f*cking movie," Miller says. "So to not do it R feels disingenuous to the source material." The director added that there were some backup plans if the studio disagreed and that they shot PG-13 versions of key scenes. However, they listened to fans and decided that the best approach was going back to what worked for the original movies.

"I got so many takes of Linda saying [frick]," Miller joked. Not Arnie, though: "Robots don’t curse."

Why James Cameron Returned To The Franchise

James Cameron foolishly endorsed Terminator: Genisys, but he's also taken an active role in the development of this sequel/reboot. However, when he was asked to return, he had one condition: Arnie had to come with him! "If I was gonna do it, I wanted Arnold in...What do we do with the T-800? How do we create a new character for him, something no one has ever seen before?"

"I think we came up with something pretty good," he teased. The filmmaker went on to praise director Tim Miller and said that "[we're] coming up with crazy new stuff you've never seen before." It was Cameron who convinced Linda Hamilton to reprise the role of Sarah Connor, and her love of the character is what led her to saying yes. So, it sounds like they have the right intentions.

Why Arnold Schwarzenegger Is Back...Again

Arnie's likeness was used in Terminator: Salvation but he didn't truly fulfil his promise of "I'll be back" until Terminator: Genisys. Well, he's returning again in this movie and says his decision boils down to: "Of course I need to come back! I'm addicted to Terminator. Terminator is the movie that really launched my action movie career."

"I feel very indebted to Jim Cameron for having created that character," he said, before promising fans that this movie is going to be something special and a sequel they can get behind. "I think that you'll be really surprised at this movie because it's unbelievable and I was blown away when I saw it three weeks ago for the first time."

Tim Miller Is Well Aware Of Franchise Fatigue

A sixth Terminator movie honestly sounds like a chore, especially as only two of the past five instalments have been any good! Well, Miller is well aware of this and can relate to how fans are feeling.

"How would I feel if they announced a sixth Terminator movie?" he posited. "I’d feel f*ck me." He added that he knew from the start that the movie would have to be very different to get fans back on board, and that is why he brought Sarah Connor back because he knew they needed to find a part of the story that felt unfinished. We'll find out whether that's the case this November.

The T-800's New Name Is...Carl

Rumours have been swirling that Arnold Schwarzenegger is playing the human who the T-800 was based on, but we now know that's not the case. In the trailer that was shown to fans, it was revealed that he's playing a T-800 who has decided to live out his life as a human in a community where he's well-liked.

To the locals and his friends, he's known as "Carl" and Sarah Connor warns him that once their mission is done and he's outlived his influence, she's going to put the T-800 down once and for all.

Eddie Furlong Is Back As John Connor

Perhaps the biggest news to come out of the panel is the announcement that Eddie Furlong is set to reprise his role as John Connor. Catching up with that character promises to be a lot of fun, especially now we're returning to the "original" timeline to see what happened after the events of the second Terminator film.

They've done a good job of keeping this secret, so time will tell just how big his role ends up being.

Footage Description

The new trailer has yet to be released online but here's a description courtesy of Screen Rant:

It started off with a longer look at the car chase glimpsed in the movie's first trailer, with Grace (Davis) and Dani being pursued by Luna's Terminator. After that came a scene where Sarah gives advise to Grace, explaining that she and her son, John, changed the future (saving three billion lives) and that Sarah's been hunting terminators every since. Grace asks why she wants to help them and Sarah says she was Dani and "It sucks".

The three then go to a cabin in the woods where they meet Schwarzenegger's T-800. Sarah tries to kill him, but Grace stops her. The robot then introduces himself as Carl (Sarah says she'll never call him that) and he agrees to help protect Dani and teaches her how to fire a gun. In a later shot, Sarah says that she plans to kill Carl once everything's over and he seems to understand.

The footage also featured fresh shots from the post-apocalyptic future, Carl taking bullets for Sarah (something that makes her mad, but doesn't hurt him), Sarah and Dani in a humvee parachuting with Luna's Terminator attached, and Grace battling an army of Terminators with metal tentacles on their backs. Everything ultimately concludes with Luna’s Terminator telling the heroes to just hand over Dani, but Sarah says they won’t because they aren’t machines. (She also calls him a “metal motherf***er”.)

Sounds pretty fun, right?

Continue reading below to check out some recently
released hi-res stills from Terminator: Dark Fate!

Mackenzie Davis is clearly playing a robot created by Skynet meant to blend in with humans, but she seems convinced that she's real, and that could be where Arnold Schwarzenegger's character comes in - assuming he explains to her that the villainous organisation uses real people as the basis for their machines. Either way, she's pictured here alongside Natalia Reyes.

Sarah Connor's return has generated an awful lot of excitement and with moviegoers demanding badass female leads, it's pretty clear that she will be filling that void. This is an amazing shot, and while Emilia Clarke was fine in the role as a younger version of Sarah, it's good to have the real deal here!

Gabriel Luna's Terminator can clearly replicate himself, and he now has a name: Rev 9. Right now, we don't know what that's referring to, but speculation is running rampant that it could have something to do with the Biblical verse. A combination of both the T-800 and T-1000, he looks pretty damn formidable and could be the coolest villain this franchise has had yet. Well, maybe!

Arnold Schwarzenegger was barely featured in the trailer, so it's good to see him getting some action here. Rumour has it he's playing the human that the T-800 was based on, but could be be Carl, the owner of Carl's Draperies. That would be weird, but it's feasible!

Tim Miller was working with a limited budget on Deadpool, so it will be interesting to see how he handles this leap to blockbuster filmmaking with a massive budget. Should the movie flop, that will set his career back quite considerably and probably means this series is well and truly a lost cause.

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L0RDbuckethead - 7/19/2019, 8:35 AM

This movie looks terrible. I bet it ends up being *slightly* better than Genisys.

Off-Topic: Anyone else see this? What a terrible way to go.

RIP

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7263217/Special-effects-coordinator-Titans-dies-car-stunt-rehearsal.html

tmp3 - 7/19/2019, 8:39 AM

@L0RDbuckethead - Awful news. Condolences to the family.

MyCoolYoung - 7/19/2019, 8:44 AM

@L0RDbuckethead - man that sounds like some final destination stuff it really is an awful way to go. RIP and I hope his family is well taken care of if he has one

gulducati - 7/19/2019, 8:36 AM

Not too worried if this is good or not. It will be rebooted in another 3 to 5 years.

BraxtonHicks - 7/19/2019, 8:45 AM

I still don't understand how the T800 is alive since he destroyed himself at the end of T2...

Vigor - 7/19/2019, 8:48 AM

@BraxtonHicks - could just be a different t800 sent back to help the resistance. But since the resistance won, he had nothing to do. No mission. So he assimilated

hurleychris07 - 7/19/2019, 9:59 AM

@BraxtonHicks - Its another T800 that was sent back at the same time as the one from T2. They learn multiple were sent back in 92 to different locations. Thus Sarah saying she just hunts terminators now

hurleychris07 - 7/19/2019, 10:00 AM

@BraxtonHicks - After skynet went down Carl had no mission left. So he was left wandering

dragon316 - 7/19/2019, 11:07 AM

@BraxtonHicks - he came back in t3 , made small cameo appearance if you want to call it that in t5, went back in time again on gensesis

GhostDog - 7/19/2019, 8:45 AM

OT:

https://www.cbr.com/batman-beyond-bruce-timm-revival-chances-sdcc/

Get your dollars ready

knocturnalzen10 - 7/19/2019, 8:49 AM

@BlackBeltJones - oh my stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this needs to happen ..... ironically i think Affleck would have been a great old man Bruce

GhostDog - 7/19/2019, 8:57 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - this show had a lot more story to tell. I love the modern Beyond comics too and they can certainly pull from those

knocturnalzen10 - 7/19/2019, 9:02 AM

@BlackBeltJones - i read a lot of the comics as well , but as you get older you don't realize how dark the cartoon run truly was ..... i like and enjoyed terry more because you felt even tho they did the DNA thing he still had a choice and at the end he's one of the only ones who could live a happy life .

Reeds2Much - 7/19/2019, 9:18 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - as you get older you don't realize how dark the cartoon run truly was

I liked how Terry would just straight up murder people. Not even as a last resort. He just did it.

knocturnalzen10 - 7/19/2019, 9:24 AM

@Reeds2Much - yea Terry made business decisions early when needed

newhire13 - 7/19/2019, 1:02 PM

@Reeds2Much - Haha they did make a point of making sure he was definitely not like Bruce. Didn’t he kick Joker in the groin in ROTJ? Haha
“What are you doing?”
“Fighting dirty.”

MyCoolYoung - 7/19/2019, 8:45 AM

I don't know when's the last terminator movie I've actually watched. I think I like reading about them more than actually watching them

Ryguy88 - 7/19/2019, 8:48 AM

I'd wager this ends up being pretty decent. If its budget is over-inflated I doubt it makes much bank though.

SplattyMcJoj - 7/19/2019, 8:50 AM

I liked this article better when KingPatel wrote it yesterday.

Reeds2Much - 7/19/2019, 8:54 AM

I hope this whole R Rated As A Gimmick fad ends soon.

MyCoolYoung - 7/19/2019, 8:59 AM

@Reeds2Much -

regularmovieguy - 7/19/2019, 9:31 AM

@Reeds2Much

Are you saying let’s nix R-rated movies or R-rated franchises? I’m not following.

Stinkor1 - 7/19/2019, 8:56 AM

How many times is the model 101 going to be sent back? It’s supposed to be blend in with humanity but they sent the same one back multiple times? Even if it was sent somewhere else entirely, you think they would use a different model. There last gotta be at least 100 more to choose from.

Timerider84 - 7/19/2019, 9:35 AM

@Stinkor1 - the only movies that count in this timeline is T1 and T2, and now this one. There's only been two T800 model 101 Terminators sent back. All other films don't count.

hurleychris07 - 7/19/2019, 9:54 AM

@Stinkor1 - The T800 from T2 was one ONE of a few sent back at the same time. Thats what they are going with. Thats where Carl came from

Stinkor1 - 7/19/2019, 11:34 AM

@hurleychris07 - that’s my point. Why send multiple of the SAME model back. Why not send a couple different models?

Stinkor1 - 7/19/2019, 11:38 AM

@Timerider84 - I know the other movies don’t count. (Which is a stupid and lazy gimmick.) But Skynet sent a 101 model to 1984. Then another 101 was sent to 1991. But this Carl was ALSO sent back at some point. That’s a lotta live for the 101 model. They could have sent a 48 model. Or a 72. Or god willing a 69....

Twenty23Three - 7/19/2019, 9:02 AM

They really needed to just make Arnie the man the t-800 was based on and done a Logan style film about him struggling in a world where he’s hated everywhere. Instead we’re gonna get more of the same old ‘look it’s a fancy new terminator’ but the same plot of running away and/or trying to destroy skynet.

Also Edward Furlong is like... a mess isn’t he? Every photo of him he looks terrible. Don’t see how he’ll be able to pull off ‘saviour of humanity’ even if he does just get killed off early on

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