Stunt Icon Vic Armstrong On The Amazing Spider-Man and Andrew Garfield

Stunt Icon Vic Armstrong  On The Amazing Spider-Man and Andrew Garfield

Stuntman Vic Armstrong says this Spider-Man film will be more organic and not lean as heavily on CGI as the previous trilogy.

By Hawksblueyes - May 11, 2011 03:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: Movieline

Legendary stuntman/action director Vic Armstrong (pictured on the left of Harrison Ford in the photo on the left) recently talked to Movieline about his memoir The True Adventures of the World’s Greatest Stuntman: My Life as Indiana Jones, James Bond, Superman and Other Movie Heroes. While they discussed almost everything he has seen and done in his storied career, it was what was said on the topic of The Amazing Spider-Man that caught my attention.

From Movieline...

You just completed some directing on Spider-Man, and you admit in your book you weren’t a big fan of the preceding Spider-Man trilogy. What makes the new film different and, hopefully, an improvement?

I think the trilogy up until now was starting to lean far too heavily on CGI for the flying and the action and everything else. It was starting to get away from… it’s silly to say “realism” of Spider-Man, because what kind of a man can stick on to a wall and spin spider’s webs? But, there’s a certain amount of reality to it, like there is with Indiana Jones and like there is with Bond. And I just felt like it was getting a little too CGI. My brother Andy and I — we work together all the time; he’s a stunt coordinator and director as well — we’ve been working very, very hard to work out the flying process. We’ve gone back to the basics — more basic flying. You see Spider-Man flying for real, and I think it gives the movie a whole new grounding really. It is more grounded than the others were.

Andrew Garfield is a very good actor — he is very much in the Daniel Day-Lewis method of getting totally into it, so we’ve integrated him into as much of the flying as we could, and as much of the action, the poses and the body movement. So you’ve got all of these
really organic movements. When you see somebody flying for real, it’s far different than a CG one. You see the G-force come on as they change directions, and their arms straighten out, and then their legs flex, and then they pick up and swing again. It’s got this whole rhythm to it.


How game was Andrew Garfield to do his own stunts? Could you break it down to a percentage of what’s him versus a double?

Andrew’s very, very game. We’ve done a lot of different actions on this — some that he’s not capable of doing. We’ve had to have specialists for movement — for parkour and various things that we’ve been doing. But Andrew is 100 percent game, and if he’s not shooting on the main unit, he’ll be on my unit. Even if he’s not called! He’ll be on my unit looking at what we’re doing. We discuss it, and we talk about the Spider-Man poses and thing. Percentage-wise, I’d say it’s probably 60 or 70 percent of Andrew in the movie in the action moments.

Hawksblueyes: There is much, much more to this interview. Click on the link below to read it in it's entirety at Movieline.
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Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 5/11/2011, 3:12 PM
;P
RadicalDuck
RadicalDuck - 5/11/2011, 3:50 PM
Erm Mister Stuntman, not to be nitpicking, but in case you haven't noticed...Spider-Man swings. He doesn't fly. Also the original trilogy went too much for the realistic? I thought this one was meant to be grittier and more realistic? Other than that ranting of mine, I can't wait for this film :-)
write33
write33 - 5/11/2011, 3:57 PM
@RadicalDuck

ha, thanks for saying it. i kept tripping over him saying Spider-man "flies"
unless this movie has a massive and unrevealed twist.

just kidding.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/11/2011, 4:29 PM
sounds promising.
JackDexx
JackDexx - 5/11/2011, 4:36 PM
finally real spiderman flying and this... wait that? he doesnt fly
Boyle360
Boyle360 - 5/11/2011, 4:40 PM
Parkour? YES!!!

And when he said flying he didn't mean like Superman flying. He meant flying through the air including swinging on his webs.
continuezero
continuezero - 5/11/2011, 4:59 PM
WTF?? Ur gonna criticise the past movies but then call it flying? Come on...Spidey doesn't fly...once you get that straight then move forward. How about saying Thor just jumps really high for long periods of time. Or how about when the Hulk flies?

Stupid...
docgl
docgl - 5/11/2011, 5:09 PM
He called it flying because that is the term used in film making and onstage for theatrical performances. It is flying to the professional whether you are swinging on a rope a spiderweb or air craft cable.
nuck82
nuck82 - 5/11/2011, 6:10 PM
@TRUDY..... YOU WILL DRINK MY MILK SHAKE!!!
dmm5
dmm5 - 5/11/2011, 7:50 PM
matthuliz.... Fuuuuuuck you!
dmm5
dmm5 - 5/11/2011, 7:51 PM
matthuliz.... Fuuuuuuck you!
dmm5
dmm5 - 5/11/2011, 7:51 PM
matthuliz.... Fuuuuuuck you!
dmm5
dmm5 - 5/11/2011, 7:51 PM
matthuliz.... Fuuuuuuck you!
continuezero
continuezero - 5/11/2011, 9:49 PM
@fangz Thanks for the info. I assumed that it wouldn't actually be flying in the movie, but took it from him as either disregard for the detail or ignorance. But if it's industry terminology then so be it...poor use of words in this case but...

I think he'd be more correct by saying swinging.
weapon925
weapon925 - 5/11/2011, 10:09 PM
Not to be off topic, but why is the webbing on the mask just a bunch of squares? Shouldn't the horizontal lines be little arches? This screams half-assery.
continuezero
continuezero - 5/11/2011, 10:18 PM
@weapon925 Now that you mention it you're right, it should be more of a web design and not boxes. I wonder if its just this pic?
Ne0Baggins
Ne0Baggins - 5/11/2011, 10:36 PM
Translation edit:

"I think the trilogy up until now was starting to lean far too heavily on CGI for the flying and the action and everything else. It was starting to get away from… well, it was getting too far away from me making money as a STUNTMAN. Phuck that CGI shit, I can fly. So yeah, I'm all for this."
BlackSands
BlackSands - 5/11/2011, 11:11 PM
Wow, "flying"... REALLY??? I didn't know Spider-Man can frigging fly... oh yeah.... "as close to the source material" my ass. Either the guy was too stupid to realize he made a gaff at that or he really believes what he's saying.

Spider-Man SWINGS, you dolt! Despite your own technical terminology, the fans will never know that unless they're really into the business.

Oh yeah... none of this screams "faithful adaptation" to me.

The only way you're going to get those extreme shots as Spider-Man in all his glory swinging all over New York is to go CGI for the sweeping shots.... At least be honest in saying: "Hey, we don't have that much of a budget really to pull off those grand swings and that we're keeping it low key as to save those kind of shots to be especially at the end of the movie."

I wanna see a test shot video of him just "flying" through the air as Spider-Man without the visible rigs and see it he's doing it "natural" - as in it ain't obvious that his body, while "swinging", isn't acting like it's also being held up by a secondary set of guide wires.
Ichaos
Ichaos - 5/12/2011, 2:02 AM
I dunno a lot of the movement one would expect of Spiderman is pretty much impossible to do practically. I mean if someone tried to do huge swings on 100 foot ropes in fancy poses they might havr their arms ripped from their sockets. PLUS CGI is what made a lot of Superheroes to be able to be done. I mean sure they could light somes head on fire with a skull mask for tons of scenes, or build big fake rubver arms for Reed Richards but really it just might not look so good.

I dunno, Spiderman is my all time favorite comic character but I have to say at the momment I am skeptical. Course I will see it I just hope to be pleasantly suprised. It just sucks they are going all the way back to high school :/
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 5/12/2011, 5:47 AM
@ BlackSands:

You sound like an idiot. Flying is the terminology, your probably from another country so I can't hold it against you.

Terms like this are used for stunts. In wrestling for example the announcer would say this to a competitor that dives over the top rope.

"There he goes, Flying over the top Rope"

There are many Wrestling Moves called

Flying Clothesline
Flying Dropkick
Flying Mayorama
Flying Huracanrana

Or in Martial Arts many Aerial moves are called flying techniques.

Flying Side Kick
Flying Spinning Crescent Kick
Flying Crescent Kick
Flying Dropkick
Flying Head Scissor

In general stunt world, any wire based trick is called flying. If the stunt is the person actually swinging with no wire assistance, then it will be considered Swinging. If a wire or Harness is used then it will be called flying because in the old films that was the only reason to use wiring. All other stunts were done without the wiring.

Also he doesn't need to watch his words for your own idiotic pleasure.

Pack of Morons!
RadicalDuck
RadicalDuck - 5/12/2011, 7:37 AM
Apologies for the badly based rant- I was in a bad mood and didn't read the article that closely. My bad! :-s
TheIntruder- I do agree that a lot of the hate is unfounded.
niknik
niknik - 5/12/2011, 9:07 AM
Don't worry, it will be when this piece of crap hits the theaters.
Ichaos
Ichaos - 5/12/2011, 11:17 AM
I am not a hater, i am a bit of a skeptic-er. I wouldnt say its a piece of crap like other posts, thats impossible given its not even done let alone anyone has seen it.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 5/12/2011, 11:40 AM
@ TheIntruder: Yeah, I feel you. I'm actually excited for this movie. Can't wait to see it really.
FormicaStacy86
FormicaStacy86 - 5/12/2011, 7:03 PM
AWESOME. The real stuff combined with great acting make the movie for me! I liked the first trilogy, but Maguire seemed too pussy for me. I can´t watch those movie the same way after seen this:
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