@dragon316 - less "popular or not", more "should have been this way from the start".

Eh, who am I kidding? I bet the real Optimus will be little more than a cameo in this movie...

@Spock0Clock - if g1 is that popular with NEW FANS bumblebee would have billion easy

@Vampyre75 - This Scourge appears to be more based on the one from the 2001 Transformers: Robots in Disguise cartoon.

@CorndogBurglar - This is exactly my argument you think the source material is the Bay verse which didn’t honour any type of material before it. Go back to the original source material which were the eighties cartoons. Decepticons we’re all different forms of aerial aircraft starscream was an f14 tomcat. Megatron was a rifle which was fired by sound wave which was a cassette recorder. There was no emergency vehicle decepticons. Autobots were vehicles be it a working vehicle such as a truck like optimus. A passenger vehicle as in bumblebee being a beetle. Sports cars as in sideswipe being a Lamborghini and a police vehicle as in prowl. During the season they introduced the aerialbots as planes and Dinobots for the autobots. The decepticons then introduced the stunticons as different vehicles and the insecticons.

And no marvel does not make changes they may update to meet today’s standards but the honour the original source material and you can see different bits of there current stories direct from the pages of comics. Civil war being one whereby to make it more akin to the source material by marvel going to Sony in order to bring spiderman into the story as he was also pivotal in the comic

@Vampyre75 - For Transformers I wasn't talking about the old show. I'm talking about the Bay movies. They weren't all aerialbots in the Bay movies. And Transformers did their updates to meet today's standards, also. Starscream was an F-15 Eavle in G1, not a F-14. Starscream is an F-22 now, which makes sense.

Soundwave was a tapedeck in G1 that sent out smaller tapes of other animal Transformers. In the Bay movies, Soundwave is a satellite that also sends out smaller animal transformers. It wouldn't make sense to have him be a tapedeck or portable CD player because people don't use those anymore.

And like I said, in the Bay movies, the Decepticons were not all aerialbots. They had a police car. A tank. And other sports cars in the sequels.

I'm not defending the Bay movies, they are horrible and the robot designs were terrible. But their vehicle forms are not anything that needs to be complained about because it's the 80's anymore. What sense would it make to have them transform into things from the 80's when the movie is taking place in the 2000's and 2010's?

And those are exactly the kind of changes Marvel makes to their characters also. Iron Man never even fought his worst enemy from the source material and instead Mandarin is Shang Chi's father? That is not honoring the source material at all. Iron Man created Ultron? Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo were combined into one character. Thanos killed half the universe to save it from overpopulation? Taskmaster is a totally different person who only had powers because of technology?

I could go on and on, but just the things I've mentioned are big changes. Arguably much bigger than the aesthetic changes to the Transformers that you are using.

@Vampyre75 - And no marvel does not make changes

Oh sunshine ...

@IcePyke - a requel make-off.

@IcePyke - I just read that as "snake in my boot"

@IcePyke - Unfortunately looking like a sequel.. just from the actress cast in it saying “I’m in Transformers 7” but maybe she doesn’t really know 😂