HAWKEYE Trailer Features A Fun Nod To The Avengers And A New Look At Echo And Clown

@Spidey91 - I'll admit most of them were pretty dark, but I thoroughly liked seeing Bucky and Sam hang out at the neighbourhood bbq at the end of FATWS

@JoeInTheBox - oh god I forgot about the dog.

@TheManWithoutFear - I do feel that covid and delays (not the newest delays who cares, I mean last year) knocker the wind out of marvel’s sails somewhat. Also I know people who say they won’t watch all of em at the movies like they used to before Endgame and that had nothing to do with covid. A friend of mine literally said I’m just gonna watch Spider-Man in theaters. He didn’t care bout Black Widow, Shang Chi, or Eternals. He ain’t some Sony shill, just doesn’t care. What’s worse tho is my friends who stopped watching Disney plus marvel stuff. They straight up didnt like what they’ve seen and won’t be tuning in. I’m sitting here like dang, we used to go in a big group and watch MCU stuff opening night! I’m still gonna, with my kids.

@LSHF - I would say a lot, and I think it was great writing and made for a great movie, but he was the golden goose. Thing is… it would’ve been a good way to end things. I see this as somebody that’s going to watch all of it, but I know a lot of people that used to wont anymore.

@JDL - no

@TheManWithoutFear - same, just turned 39 and sittin here lookin for a primary physician cuz the way I eat, if I ain’t got diabetes, nobody does, but yeah covid knocked a lot of wind out of alot of sails. Guess Marvel ain’t immune.

@JDL - You know guys (and gals) if there is a perceived "MCU fatigue" coming on I think it's not really that. It's simply that the movies/TV shows are becoming like the comics in the sense that there are so many of them now and they are spreading into all these different genres that it's not all for everyone (although I for one will continue to watch anything and everything MCU related). It's kinda like this: when I was younger and collected comics I used to get all the X-Men books and all the Spidey books. Then I also started collecting Ghost Rider and Punisher. And Wolverine. But I never collected Captain America,Iron Man, dare Devil, the Avengers, etc. Not that I had anything against those characters, but I just wasn't as interested in them as I was in the other characters. And of course being a kid in high school time and money was a factor. So that's how I see the MCU going: it's getting so expansive that a lot of folks will end up picking some sub-areas of it that they like the most (like, say, the cosmic side or the supernatural side) and there will ultimately be SO MUCH MCU content in those sub-areas that it will be enough to keep those people satisfied. I'm sure that this has occurred to Kevin Feige and the rest of the head honchos at Marvel and they seem to be totally leaning into it. For us as fans all I can say is what a great time to live (all things considered) where even the worst Marvel Studios content is better than most stuff that in on TV or in the theaters. I mean 10 years ago I never thought that I'd be able to say "yeah I'm typically into the cosmic and supernatural MCU stuff but I'm not that into the spy/espionage stuff although a friend of mine recommended Secret Wars so I might check that out after I finish this other stuff"). It's like are you talking about the shows or the comics?

Oh, and I have a feeling that Lucky is going to steal this show. Just wait. They're holding the Lucky stuff back. Fo sho.

@JDL - Hi. First off, thanks for disagreeing respectfully. I shouldn't have to say that but I've seen too many folks get verbally attacked here for just having a different opinion than someone else. Anyhow, so I guess what I was trying to say is that it seems like Marvel is consciously trying to carve out different genres within its own "super hero movie" genre and that will ultimately lead to different people gravitating toward the areas that they like more than others (although some of us will be there for everything we can get our hands on :)). Case in point: Guardians of the Galaxy (and whatever spin-offs that will undoubted come from it i.e. Nova, etc.) are pretty much exclusively cosmic (i.e. non-Earth) movies. Feige has said before that they are definitely expanding in that direction (please don't ask me for the direct quote as I don't have it handy). So there is going to be that corner of the MCU which continue to grow. Depending on what they decide to do with Captain Marvel, she could also fit in there, although I think that "The Marvels" movie will be primarily Earth-centered, but it's still too early to tell.

Then we have the more "grounded" Earth-bound characters like Sam and Bucky (and the new Captain America movie coming), if that's more your cup of tea. In that same vein (although a different flavor) are the spy/espionage movies/shows like Black Widow, Secret Wars, and pretty much anything that Nick Fury is involved in. Sure you can make the argument that because Nick in currently out in space on a ship full of Skrulls that he fits into that cosmic genre, but aside from that being a convenient place to put him for now and set him up for his future adventures I don't really think that that space setting matters for his character. At least not like it does for, say, Peter Quill.

Anyhow, then we could go on for the magical/mystical side of things, the multiverse, etc. But hopefully you see where I'm going with this. Regarding the horror aspect, I don't know that Sony is purposely trying to go down that route (meaning "scary comic book movies") but they definitely seem to have more of those aspects in their CBMs than Marvel does between Venom and presumably Morbius. However keep in mind that Sony wants butts in seats so they're most likely not going to violate that PG-13 rating with any of their CBMs (sorry I'm just getting tire of writing out "Comic Book Movies"). And Marvel has, in addition to Dr. Strange and tMoM (which may or may not have horror elements), their whole new "horror" genre coming out with Blade, Moon Knight, and possibly other titles like "Werewolf by Night" and other things that we've heard rumors about. Again, Marvel obviously won't keep these genres mutually exclusive (like how do you keep the magical/mystical side separate from the horror side?), but I think that over time we will see definitive genres arise (I haven't even mentioned the martial arts genre yet for example).

Finally, regarding your point about the street level characters (i.e. Netflix ones), you are spot-on about Marvel's deficiency in that area and (although I don't work for Marvel or am privy to any of their internal schemes) I'm pretty sure that they are aware of it. They have been very good at making world-level or even universe-level stories that they've somewhat neglected the street-level ones. Now, in their defense, for a number of years the Netflix shows were covering that aspect. But now that that's done I think that Marvel is stepping up to fill that void with their D+ shows like "Hawkeye", "Jessica Jones', and possibly "Ms. Marvel". "Echo" will probably fall in there as well. And whatever the hell they're doing with DareDevil will likely fall in there as well.

So I guess that my original point was just that whether you like the gritty crime drama or the space opera (or both) Marvel Studios seems to be diversifying to the point that there's going to a lot of content in each genre for everyone. Which works out really well for someone like me who's about to have some pretty serious surgery and nothing to do for a while but lie in bed and watch D+/Netflix and drool on myself (and that's because of the meds, NOT because of ScarJo in that tight leather outfit. Or Lizzy. Or Sophia. Damn it I'm married! What's wrong with you people?!?). BTW, sorry for the TL;DR. Best :)

@Kyos - that’s why I got kicked off, had to sneak back in

@Kyos - I’ll try man no promises

@globaltravels - Agree to Disagree fam.