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IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 7/6/2018, 8:17 AM
Here's a Theory:

The reason S.H.I.E.L.D. never cured Ghost was because HYDRA was using her.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/6/2018, 8:26 AM
@IronMandarin -

Vigor
Vigor - 7/6/2018, 8:29 AM
@IronMandarin - I'm starting to see how Nick Fury had a whole backlog of potential heroes he could pluck from is the Avengers Initiative didn't work out. He knew of Capt Marvel, the existence of Hank Pym/Antman, Ghost, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and he knows there's some powered beings in Atlantis.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/6/2018, 8:29 AM
@IronMandarin - Mitchell Carson in particular?
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 7/6/2018, 8:31 AM
@MalseMarcel - Yes potentially.
MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 7/6/2018, 8:36 AM
@IronMandarin - Fully assumed it was HYDRA, glad I'm not the only one.
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 7/6/2018, 8:43 AM
@MattBellissimo - It also adds much more to her character since if she blames S.H.I.E.L.D. for betraying her without realising that HYDRA was the one sending her on missions.

Nick Fury makes a lot of cold decisions but turning a child into a weapon for a promise he never intends to make good on would be dark even for him.
aflynn
aflynn - 7/6/2018, 8:54 AM
@IronMandarin - I think it fits if we remember Ultimate Nick Fury is who he is based on and has done a lot of morally terrible things and Marvel may wanna tap into that.

I could also see them giving him and Carol Danvers a combative relationship, similar to the one that Ultimate Captain Marvel and Nick Fury had.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 7/6/2018, 8:24 AM
I think this movie, just like Spider-Man: Homecoming, is balanced nicely between standing on itself and having influences from other movies. Ghost especially is a stand-out for this movie and the wider MCU. The only thing in common with it's comic counterpart is the name and the phasing through stuff ability. The rest is entirely new, which in my opinion is a good case. I think it wouldn't do the MCU any wrong with creating it's own entirely new heroes and villains
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 7/6/2018, 10:53 AM
@MalseMarcel - She has more in common with the Dark Horse Ghost, what with the hood design and the being used as a hired assassin/thief/whatever backstory.
Kman
Kman - 7/6/2018, 8:31 AM
Is it pretty much unofficial consensus that A4 will be called Avengers: End Game now? I've been hearing and reading that in a few places.
MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 7/6/2018, 8:41 AM
@Kman - Still a rumour for now but it's been heavily suggested, yes.
greyjedi
greyjedi - 7/6/2018, 8:41 AM
Am I the only one here who really curious about Janet's new ability? I wonder what kind of evolution she means. Someone on reddit even said it could be a way to introduce the X-gene / X-Men
Vigor
Vigor - 7/6/2018, 9:09 AM
@greyjedi - It’d be a huge departure from the comics but yes this is definitely a way to introduce the X gene.
Consider that the quantum realm has hints of time travel with the mentioned time vortex. If during the time Janet was in there, she traveled back in the past… she could have introduced the X gene to the world in ancient history.

Consider also this… anybody that sees Janet in the past will notice her silhouette looks like an X… hmmm

GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 7/6/2018, 10:47 AM
@Vigor - Also, Janet was a mutant in The Ultimates. Pym actually got his powers by experimenting with her mutant DNA.
Vigor
Vigor - 7/6/2018, 11:02 AM
@GwenLantern - Ahh, the plot thickens. Thanks for that fact!
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/6/2018, 8:48 AM
Janet Van Dyne in her prime.

Indoorsman
Indoorsman - 7/6/2018, 9:42 AM
@GeneralZod - This hit, that ice cold
Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold
MasterMix
MasterMix - 7/6/2018, 12:41 PM
@GeneralZod - I think The Witches of Eastwick is the movie they used for Michelle Pfeiffer's de-aging and I think Boyz in the Hood for Laurence Fishburne.
evrangel7
evrangel7 - 7/6/2018, 9:06 AM
I honestly think the final scene is less of a throwaway than people think.


Hope mentioned that the ant followed Scott's pattern as to not make the FBI suspicious. So the ant walked stayed in the spots Scott tended to stay in but was relatively docile through the whole film.....until we see him full on playing the drums at the end.

I think Scott is why. Much like Janet reached out to Scott in his dream, I think Scott somehow linked to the ant. Because at no point did the ant show anywhere near that level of dexterity previously and the fact that it did it after Scott was in the Quantum Realm seemed very interesting.

I also think it worked as both a typical end credits MCU joke, but a little hint that might easily go unnoticed. Thoughts?
Vigor
Vigor - 7/6/2018, 9:09 AM
@evrangel7 - So you're saying the ant gets Scott out of there?
DomoAgamotto
DomoAgamotto - 7/6/2018, 9:37 AM
@evrangel7 - Janet was only able to reach out to Scott after she first encountered him in the Quantum Realm. Unless the ant went into the QR, I don't think that's the case..

Most likely just a funny throw-away scene IMHO
DoubleD
DoubleD - 7/6/2018, 9:10 AM
The question mark I think is because they all died except for Ant-Man in the after credit scenes
ccxa
ccxa - 7/6/2018, 9:11 AM
Who else noticed the city in a dome in the Quantum Realm?
LiteraryJoe
LiteraryJoe - 7/6/2018, 9:40 AM
@ccxa - I keep seeing mention of this, unsure if it's a troll or not.
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