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Kurne
Kurne - 4/30/2019, 9:52 AM
This was my first thought too. And that he simply transported to a different location instead of the machine (with the particles), in the present that he initially came from.

Him living with Peggy creates a branch reality in the same way when they took the stones to begin with.

I'm not sure I like the idea of him being Peggy's husband in the main timeline all along and that we just didn't know it. There's no way that could have happened.
Kman
Kman - 4/30/2019, 9:56 AM
@Kurne - not based on the rules they set in place - in the MCU he was never the secret husband.

In the MCU2 - he replaced the secret husband, as the new secret husband.

Anytime somebody is asking about Peggy's funeral and if he was there secretly... they would be referring to the funeral that happened in MCU2 not MCU.
rabid
rabid - 4/30/2019, 10:02 AM
@Kman - Why would there be two MCU? If Steve returned all the stones as he said, then doesn't that mean they saved the day without radically changing history, and that their time travel missions were always part of their history?
Kyos
Kyos - 4/30/2019, 10:06 AM
@Kman - in the MCU he was never the secret husband.

How do you know for sure? It's "secret husband" for a reason.

(not saying I neccessarily go with that theory, but...)
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 4/30/2019, 9:53 AM
I thought it was a great ending.

It's important not to dwell on the "hows" and "whys," or you'll drive yourself crazy.

Just enjoy it. It was a solid ending to a GREAT character we have come to love over the last 8+ years.



But for real, get to work on that spinoff, guys.
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 4/30/2019, 11:17 AM
@L0RDbuckethead -

god-[frick]ing-dammit, that suit was incredible. just perfect page-to-screen translation.
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 4/30/2019, 12:54 PM
@HeraldNumber7 - It really was.

Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/30/2019, 1:50 PM
@L0RDbuckethead -
"It's important not to dwell on the "hows" and "whys," or you'll drive yourself crazy."

It's less driving someone crazy via logical aspects of the film or deep meaningful questions and instead in the idea that they dropped the ball when it came to writing Endgame.

The director and writers should have not left plot holes with the excuse of claiming plot holes make it a 'layered storyline'.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/30/2019, 2:47 PM
@L0RDbuckethead - Nothing wrong on talking about plot points. People do this all the time.
incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 4/30/2019, 4:12 PM
@L0RDbuckethead - Cap was wearing that suit when they cut off Thanos you know what!
DoctorDoomSayer
DoctorDoomSayer - 4/30/2019, 5:34 PM
@L0RDbuckethead - that gif made me realize his shield is CGI and it is going through the couch...ugh
Kman
Kman - 4/30/2019, 9:54 AM
They are gonna keep stringing us along for answers aren't they lol...

Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/30/2019, 1:53 PM
@Kman -
It's just a plot hole. They may retcon it in the future somehow - but chances are they'll just bs outside of the movie.
Kman
Kman - 4/30/2019, 1:57 PM
@Scarilian - the biggest plot hole I think is - if the Stones need remain in their reality for it to exist. Then the current MCU should have been in serious jeopardy since Thanos had destroyed them here.
four20smoke
four20smoke - 4/30/2019, 5:29 PM
@Kman - he reduced them to atoms, they are there somewhere but just impossible to find in the vastness of the universe in atom form. But i imagine that will get rectified at some point...maybe.
LarryDee
LarryDee - 5/1/2019, 2:46 AM
@Kman - This actually more of a starting point for some future events, more than a plot hole. Every action has consequences, we'll see what danger will come into this universe now that the Stones are gone.
JohnnyTBP
JohnnyTBP - 4/30/2019, 9:54 AM
I want them to explore this in a Marvel One Shot
Fogs
Fogs - 4/30/2019, 2:47 PM
@JohnnyTBP - I'd love to.
four20smoke
four20smoke - 4/30/2019, 5:30 PM
@JohnnyTBP - what if...
rabid
rabid - 4/30/2019, 9:55 AM
I just presumed that he went back and became the husband that Peggy always had married and had kids with. We never met that man, so theres no reason it couldn't have been Steve living under an alias. He couldn't have caused a new reality or else, he wouldn't have been there to speak with Sam. And he tells Sam that he returned all the stones. So I think old man Steve has always been there, hiding out with Peggy so he didn't alter history.
Kman
Kman - 4/30/2019, 10:02 AM
@rabid - but when you got back in time - you're traveling to an alternate timeline. From what I understand.

So when he goes back in time - he's going back to MCU2 not this MCU that we know. When he leaves MCU1 there is no longer a Cap in that timeline, but there are now 2 in the MCU2 timeline. One frozen in ice who emerges, because the timelines events are parallel but still different "universes." And another who secretly lived the Peggy, that nobody knows about. Effectively, making only one Cap that people know about in MCU2... assuming he never told anybody and remained in hiding. Until traveling back to MCU1 - where only 5 seconds had passed, but he had lived for X amount of years in MCU2.

I need a beer now lol
rabid
rabid - 4/30/2019, 10:07 AM
@Kman - I dont see why there would be two MCUs. They would have had to alter the past to create a new timeline. But he returned the stones before history could change. So having two Steves living at once was probably always the classic history, just unseen to us.
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