AVENGERS: ENDGAME Directors Explain Why Using The Infinity Stones Had A Lasting Impact On The Hulk

The Hulk was left horribly scarred after unleashing the power of the Infinity Stones in Avengers: Endgame, and now the Russo Brothers have elaborated on why they left a lasting impact on the Jade Giant...

By JoshWilding - Aug 20, 2019 01:08 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame

Source: WIRED

In Avengers: Endgame, The Hulk chose to use the Nano Gauntlet to unleash the power of the Infinity Stones and bring back everyone who died when Thanos snapped his fingers in Avengers: Infinity War. While his gamble was a success, the Green Goliath has been permanently damaged, and his horribly scarred arm now appears to be useless.

During a recent Q&A, Avengers: Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo were asked why, despite the character's healing factor, he was left so badly injured. After all, we've seen him regrow limbs and even holes blown through his chest in the comic books!

"The Hulk has never come up against every Infinity Stone, in a Gauntlet, and the pure power of those Stones," Joe explained. "Thanos is nearly invincible and he did not heal either, so clearly when you wield the full power of the Infinity Stones it does irreparable damage to your being." Anthony then chimed in to add: "If it doesn’t even kill you," referencing Iron Man's fate.

We don't know when The Hulk will return as it doesn't appear as if there's much room for him in Phase 4. However, when he does, he's bound to have been through some big changes, and it will be very interesting finding out what sort of lasting impact using those Infinity Stones has had on his new Smart Hulk persona (some fans believe he could become Maestro).

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How Long Have Captain America And Iron Man Been Separated?

Captain America and Iron Man finally reunite when Tony Stark is brought back to Earth, but it's not exactly a happy occasion after everything that happened in Captain America: Civil War. Surprisingly, the Russo Brothers aren't entirely sure how long it's been since they last crossed paths and Joe says "We'll let someone else figure that out" after throwing around numbers like six and eight...years!

Presumably, he's referring to how long it's been since they've teamed up. At any rate, the significance of the moment Tony finally gives Steve his shield back wasn't lost on the filmmakers.

"That's the value I think in serialized storytelling and telling a mosaic like this, is that you...if you make choices that take years to resolve, the audience feels that," Joe continued. "Because they too have waited years for this to resolve. And it has been since 2016 since these characters have had a pleasant scene between each other."

Captain Marvel Vs. Thor - Who's Stronger?

One of Avengers: Endgame's most enjoyable moments comes when Captain Marvel squares up to Thor and the God of Thunder declares that he likes the powerful hero. During the Director's Commentary, Joe goes so far as to say that he believes Carol Danvers could actually put Thor in his place.

"It's interesting seeing the Avengers with Captain Marvel," he muses. "I think that she dimensionalizes them in a really great way. Just from a pure power standpoint and what her abilities are. If you're talking about a collection of heroes, and you're gonna go face Thanos who we believe still has the gauntlet."

"She is as powerful, if not more powerful than Thor, and you suddenly have hope again," the director continues. "Because they all know what happened at the end of the last movie, [Thanos] walked through them like they were paper."

Why Captain America Swears More

You may not have noticed this, but Captain America swears quite a bit more in Avengers: Endgame than he did in previous MCU releases (how times have changed since that "Language" moment, eh?).

That's something Joe pointed out when he noted, "You notice, this 2023 Cap swears a lot more than the old Cap." McFeely adds: "Yeah, I noticed this. I didn't remember it on set." Joe, however, has an explanation, as he points out that, "I mean, this guy's been through a lot..."

So, intentional or not, there's a good reason for all that extra swearing!

Smart Hulk Wasn't Finished Until The Last Minute

"Smart Hulk is one of those characters that we really didn't see in full, until, like, the last week before we delivered the movie because the VFX take so long on a character like that," Joe reveals, making it clear just how difficult it was to pull of the character's new look in Avengers: Endgame.

"We should give credit to Mark Ruffalo, who is an amazing actor," Anthony added. "He worked so hard figuring this character out, because, you know he's been playing these two versions. He's been playing Banner. He's been playing Hulk. But figuring out who the combination of them is, was a real journey for him. We did a lot of experimentation. Spent a lot of time on a motion capture stage, playing with different ideas with Mark. He worked really hard to find this character."

Black Widow's Mission In Tokyo

Avengers: Endgame is a very long, very busy movie, so why take the time to have Black Widow track Hawkeye down in Tokyo? "There's no one who could have pulled him out of this other than her," says Joe. "No one else shows up and gets him to come home. "

"Well it's also implied that this is essentially what he did for her when he pulled her out of being a Russian Agent," Markus adds before Joe concludes: "That's right it comes full circle, their relationship. Right? He had an opportunity to kill her and he changed her life, and now here she is changing his." Whether we'll see their first meeting in Black Widow obviously remains to be seen.

Wait, People Laughed At Thanos' Decapitation?

Apparently, both the movie's writers and directors have been present at screenings where people break into laughter after Thanos' decapitation. Needless to say, that's left them baffled.

"It gets a laugh every time I'm in the theater," McFeely says. "Or like a nervous shock, right?" Anthony points out that he's noticed the same thing, and also puts it down to what a jaw-dropping moments it is. "People laugh at that and I was always shocked by that."

However, McFeely was quick to point out that Alan Silvestri's score helps take away some of that levity. "I think the Silvestri score and the long slow walk here make you go, "Oh, crap. We've got nothing now," he explains, referring to the hopelessness of their situation.

The Insane Number Of VFX Shots

You don't need us to tell you about the huge amount of CGI that's utilized in Avengers: Endgame, as almost every scene is enhanced with visual effects. However, between this movie and Avengers: Infinity War, it's said that there were 6000 shots with visual effects.

That might be a new record for a two films shot back to back, and shows just how much work went into them.

The Ramifications Of The Five-Year Time-Jump

Avengers: Endgame's jump five years into the future has led to a lot of discussion, and during this Director's Commentary, the filmmakers talked more about what happened to those who were in planes or boats at sea. "[It's a] very complicated premise, right?" Anthony asks.

"You know, bringing people back from five years ago is a messy proposition any way you look at it, not even talking about the time travel complexities of it. You know, that's something I know some people like to think about, after watching the movie." McFeely is unsure about what happened to those who were on a plane, while Anthony questions people's marital decisions.

Joe, however, points out that "one of the most compelling things about the movie, is doubling down at the end and not reversing it." As McFeely says, they have to "own" that decision.

Brie Larson Played Captain Marvel In Endgame Before Her Solo Movie

Before Brie Larson started working on Captain Marvel, she was already playing Carol Danvers in Avengers: Endgame.

"It should be noted, people might know this already, that's basically Brie Larson's first or second day," McFeely said, before Joe then confirmed that her conversation with Thor in The Avengers Compound was actually the Oscar-winning star's first day on the movie's set.

How The Idea Of Time-Travel Came Up

After finishing Avengers: Infinity War's screenplay, McFeely and Markus admit that they found themselves in a tough spot as they needed to find a way to undo everything Thanos did in that film.

Well, the scene between Steve Rogers and Scott Long where they discuss time-travel reportedly mirrored their own conversations early on when they were talking about how to write the screenplay.

Continue reading below to check out a breakdown
of Avengers: Endgame's deleted scenes!

At Home With Tony Stark

A scene that was clearly meant to serve as Tony Stark's reintroduction after that five year time-jump, we see Tony and Pepper spending some quality time together in the kitchen preparing a meal for them and their daughter. It's a nice little sequence that sets the mood and shows us the hero's new home life, but not one that was really essential.

The fact that Pepper refers to their daughter in this scene would have also lessened the impact of that big reveal in the film itself when Tony heads out into the garden to find Morgan.

Why Captain America Crashed That Plane

As Steve Rogers and Rhodey recap the history of the Infinity Stones, the latter has some big questions about why the Tesseract ended up at the bottom of the ocean during World War II.

Asking Cap why he found it necessary to crash the plane, Steve explains that it was because it was full of bombs. However, he's not so quick to answer why he didn't just jump out before it went into the ice and the scene ends before we find out!

It's a great little moment, and one it would have been nice to see in the final cut. However, it's easy to see why it went.

Blowing Up The Mothership

Some surveillance footage from 2012 is shown as Captain America battles the Chitauri aliens, and Rocket questions Earth's Mightiest Heroes about exactly how long they were fighting them. When Black Widow mentions that it was at least two or three hours, the Guardian bursts into laughter and simply can't understand why it took them that long to stop the "suckiest" army in the galaxy.

After Steve admits that they didn't realise blowing up the mothership was an option, Rocket's laughter is cut short when Tony uses a razor to shave the top of his head!

Thor Needs To Focus

In 2013 era Asgard, the God of Thunder takes a leak much to the disgust of Rocket. The Guardian tries to talk him round but with no luck, especially as Thor is well aware that they're just hours away from an attack from the Dark Elves which will result in the death of his mother and countless Asgardians.

As Thor fumbles to find the device Rocket needs to retrieve the Aether, we see that his pockets are full of candy bars and this explains why Rocket is the one to take it from Jane while Thor meets with his mother. It's a fun scene, but one which wasn't necessary in an already lengthy movie.

Leaving A Better World Behind

In a brief exchange with his father Howard Stark as they leave that military bunker, Tony talks about how they both want to leave a better world behind them and the pressures of doing that for their children. It's during this part of their conversation that Howard offers his son a job!

It's unclear whether he's referring to S.H.I.E.L.D. or Stark Industries, but this a cool little scene that would have been nice to see included - even if it wouldn't have added much to the final cut.

The Heroes Take A Knee

After Tony Stark draws his last breath, the shocked heroes surrounding him all take a knee to pay tribute to the fallen Avenger who sacrificed himself in order to put an end to the Mad Titan.

While it's nice to see them pay their respects, it doesn't really make sense for some of the characters who never even met him to pay tribute like this, while the whole thing comes across a little over the top and nowhere near as good as the funeral scene we ended up getting.

However, Doctor Strange's reaction is very interesting, as he looks particularly broken up by what's happened.

Gamora's Escape

Part of the same scene as the one mentioned above, Gamora watches on as the heroes take a knee. and this confirms that she obviously survived the third snap and wasn't dusted alongside the Mad Titan and his army.

It's safe to assume that Marvel Studios wanted to keep Gamora's fate ambigiuous, hence why even a different version of this moment didn't make it into the movie.

Have you guys watched Avengers: Endgame's deleted scenes yet? Which of them do you think should have been left in the final cut? Let us know your thoughts on that in the comments section.

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Radders - 8/20/2019, 2:31 AM

One of the things that disappointed me about Endgame was that Hulk never had his moment, even the infinity stone snap was underwhelming.

After the set up in Infinity War and mention of Gamma radiation I was hoping he'd hulk out and go toe to toe with Thanos again. He felt pretty neutered through the film.

blitzburgh - 8/20/2019, 2:37 AM

@Radders - yep

Spock0Clock - 8/20/2019, 2:46 AM

@Radders - Yeah, he got a lot of great plot and character moments, but he didn't get much in the way of action beats. I think the joke is that Professor Hulk doesn't really do "Smash".

Spock0Clock - 8/20/2019, 2:49 AM

Didn't they say he was somewhat smaller than ordinary Hulk, too?

Chewtoy - 8/20/2019, 6:42 AM

@Spock0Clock - I do wonder if they ever considered a Hulk Vs. Hulk sequence in Endgame, with prof. Hulk bumping into his raging past version.

IronMandarin - 8/20/2019, 7:06 AM

@Spock0Clock - @KingCipher -

I find it hard to believe that his arm would just never heal considering that Hulk has a healing factor.

That said I think the fact that he's always Professor Hulk now means that he's sacrificed most of his strength and rage in return for intelligence. Hence why he's notably smaller than regular Hulk because the madder he gets the larger he would get.

So essentially being Professor Hulk is inhibiting his power to regenerate.

MotherGooseUPus - 8/20/2019, 3:15 AM

Honestly, wasnt a big fan pf smart Hulk... he served his purpose, but it would of been nice to see the "original" hulk do some smashing and get a rematch with Thanos, even if he lost again... oh well

Origame - 8/20/2019, 3:31 AM

@MotherGooseUPus - or maybe even just have this movie be about him learning to accept the hulk. Imagine if he had to keep convincing savage hulk to come out, then they realize no one can use the gauntlet without dying and the avengers argue about who will sacrifice themselves, banner goes into his psyche to convince hulk to share his place with banner, making smart hulk. Just seeing that arc we were told about would've been 1000x more effective, and hardly damaging to the plot since he doesn't even really use his hulk strength in any meaningful way until the end.

MotherGooseUPus - 8/20/2019, 8:59 AM

@Origame - i like that idea alot... coulda shoulda woulda... but i mean Endgame was awesome, but could of been better and this would of helped alot imo

Origame - 8/20/2019, 11:40 AM

@MotherGooseUPus - i don't even get how that didn't happen though. They clearly set up an arc for banner figuring stuff out with hulk then resolve it off screen. I can't even believe these movies were filmed back to back.

TheUnworthyThor - 8/20/2019, 3:36 AM

Hulk got shafted in Infinity War and Endgame one of if not the only major gripe I had with the movies. He didn’t even get an action sequence in Endgame. In a three hour movie. And his character arc was completed off screen. So utterly unsatisfying especially after how great he was in Ragnarok.

Despite what they say here I hope they don’t actually keep him permanently damaged so that he can have at least one last ride as Hulk at his very best. They don’t actually spell it out that he is permanently damaged. Neither him nor Thanos had all that long to heal. And there are geniuses aplenty in the MCU and tons of technology (Wakanda alone has plenty of both). Although if he just shows up healed in his next appearance I don’t think many are going question it at all.

TheUnworthyThor - 8/20/2019, 4:23 AM

It sucks that they can’t make a Hulk movie. Because one set between Infinity War and Endgame where we actually see Bruce struggling to come to grips with losing to Thanos twice. Where we actually see him work out things with the Hulk and figure out how to put his two selves together. While having to stop The Leader from trying to take advantage of a suddenly vulnerable world. A world that is half abandoned so that there are lots and lots of things for the Hulk to smash guilt free. It could be such a kick ass movie. Especially after the character has had to carry their water for all these movies.

Ha1frican - 8/20/2019, 4:55 AM

I was wondering if he’d transform back and then hulk out again to heal. We know transforming can even heal banner from death so I figured the other way could work too but maybe that’s changed now that they are one

newhire13 - 8/20/2019, 7:07 AM

@Ha1frican - I don’t think he can go back. They’re one person now, which was the goal.

campblood - 8/20/2019, 4:59 AM

I just wanted to see hulk vs thanos and got jipped

NinnesMBC - 8/20/2019, 5:01 AM

That answers is that best they can offer and I get it. Only gamma-tier level beings have the chance to live and tell the story after using the six Stones.

What I still want to know is why the Nano Gauntlet was acting all over the place and hurting him and Thanos like that when in Infinity War it was not anywhere near that bad with the Infinity Gauntlet that Eitri did.

I guess I will never find out. 🤔

Chewtoy - 8/20/2019, 6:46 AM

@NinnesMBC - Either Tony’s tech isn’t as good as Eitri’s when it comes to channeling the power of the stones, or it’s simply because Thanos gradually built up to full power in Infinity War, adding stones one at a time, instead of suddenly donning all of them at once as in Endgame.

NinnesMBC - 8/20/2019, 8:57 AM

@Chewtoy - Those are exactly and often as well the conclusions that I end up getting when I ask myself this. There really doesn’t seem to be anything else that explains it, isn’t it?

Tony is a genius inventor but he did not create Stormbreaker like Eitri did which gave Thor an edge to cancel Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet. And there surely is a difference in collecting step by step each Stone to a Gauntlet rather than putting them all at the same time at once like they did at their HQ.

The 3rd and final option that I have is that the Stones were anachronisms and since they were taken out of their own respective timelines that was the effect when their combined power were being syphoned in the present.

But usually I lean more towards the former two reasons that you also share. 🧐

deepee3 - 8/20/2019, 5:24 AM

Wolverine vs. Hulk.

This. Must. Happen.

CplHicks - 8/20/2019, 5:27 AM

Just send him to Wakanda and get a new arm like Bucky.

Vigor - 8/20/2019, 6:02 AM

@CplHicks - yes

Like so

Vigor - 8/20/2019, 6:01 AM

Hey friends. Off topic but I found another Easter egg. It's highly likely you astute individuals already know this

But i watched winter soldier the other day. The song playing when cap opens his apartment door and sees injured nick fury sitting down, is the exact same song playing at the end of end game when he is having his dance with Peggy Carter

It's been a long, long time by Harry James

billnye69 - 8/20/2019, 6:57 AM

As far as I'm concerned, Norton's Hulk is the real Hulk. The Hulk after the recast is an insult to the character.

BritishMonkey - 8/20/2019, 7:31 AM

What bothers me is they're ignoring Hulk's ability to heal. It's on par with Wolverine's and yet they're doing that a disservice.

THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/20/2019, 8:18 AM

I guess they kind of forgot that the Hulk regenerates.

Dejazmatch1 - 8/20/2019, 8:23 AM

Hulk should remained injured until he faces a villian that causes rage so great that Banner is pushed to the background of their consciousness and savage Hulk takes over and grows and heals to really become the strongest there is. Right now he has not earned that title in the MCU. Another set of directors can take up this character arc.

DeathSeal - 8/20/2019, 8:25 AM

I kind of like it as avenue to get the Savage Hulk back. Bruce messing with super-science to try and repair his arm unleashes the beast. Then have him run off into the Canadian wilderness; queue Fury calling in a certain 6 clawed Canadian specialist to take him down.

AnthonyVonGeek - 8/20/2019, 8:29 AM

Bring back the savage Hulk! He’s stronger and heals faster. Savage Hulk would look at his arm and scream “PUNY BANNER” then get so mad his arm would start to heal because the madder he is the stronger he gets and heals faster. At least that’s how it used to be. The Smart Hulk/Professor Hulk is so weak and honestly boring when compared to the savage Hulk.

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BIG HERO 6 Producer Reveals Why We STILL Haven't Got A Sequel To Disney Animation's Marvel Movie

KNUCKLES Rotten Tomatoes Score Revealed Along With New Clip Featuring Sonic And Tails

Ella Purnell Says ARCANE Season 2 Will Be Incredibly Tragic As Netflix Preps The Series For Annecy Reveal

Gaming

FALLOUT Series Showrunners Strongly Hint Season 2 Will Take Us To An Iconic Location From The Games

Billie Eilish Headlines FORTNITE FESTIVAL Season 3

LaKeith Stanfield To Star In Film Based On EL PASO, ELSEWHERE Vampire Video Game

Comedy Central Orders 10-Episode GOLDEN AXE Animated Series From Mike McMahan And Joe Chandler

FALLOUT Season 2 Will Feature One Of The Game's Most Iconic Monsters

FORTNITE Will Now Let You Block "Confrontational Emotes"

Anime & Manga

New Trailer For GAROUDEN: THE WAY OF THE LONE WOLF Released Ahead Of Netflix Debut

Netflix's ONE PIECE Finds New Showrunner In PERCY JACKSON AND THE OLYMPIANS' Joe Tracz

DRAGON BALL SUPER Interval Special Announced By Jump While Manga Remains On Indefinite Hiatus

New Teaser And Key Art For Live-Action TRILLION GAME Movie

Netflix's PARASYTE: THE GREY Is Now Streaming; Here's What The Critics Are Saying

MY HERO ACADEMIA Tops X-MEN '97, INVINCIBLE And More In Social Media Engagement

Horror