AVENGERS: ENDGAME Directors On Deleted Scenes, Quicksilver Rumors, Why Bucky Isn't Captain America, More

Avengers: Endgame directors Joe and Anthony Russo discuss The Vision's status, Chris Evans' future as Captain America, the Marvel Multiverse, Gamora's fate, deleted scenes, Easter Eggs, and much more...

By JoshWilding - May 07, 2019 06:05 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame

The spoiler embargo on Avengers: Endgame has officially been lifted, and the Russo Brothers have now taken part in even more interviews to discuss the Marvel Studios movie.

This one might just be the most revealing yet, though, because they touch on a huge range of topics, including the future of Captain America and Iron Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, why Bucky isn't wielding the shield, the moment Steve Rogers finally lifts Mjolnir, a huge number of deleted scenes and scrapped sequences, and possible Easter Eggs.

It's a revealing and in-depth chat that takes us behind the scenes of the world's biggest superhero movie. The highlight here, though, might be learning how Howard the Duck's cameo happened.

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It's Down To James Gunn To Introduce Nova

Heading into both Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, fans were hopeful that Nova might make an appearance, especially as the Power Stone was being looked after by the Nova Corps on Xandar. "We never considered introducing him," Joe confirms. "I think that exists more in the Guardians universe. That would have to be a James Gunn thing."

The filmmaker went on to point out that the final battle includes dozens of characters with history in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and notes the challenges that would have come with bringing in an unknown. "[We] just had too many characters on our plate. And you can't introduce somebody who doesn't have their own movie like [Captain] Marvel."

"You can't just throw them into the final chapter of a book," he concludes.

Is The Vision Alive Or Dead?

There was no sign of The Vision in Avengers: Endgame despite theories that he might somehow have been brought back to life during the five years that passed since Avengers: Infinity War.

Well, despite the fact he's set to return on Disney+ in WandaVision alongside Elizabeth Olsen's Scarlet Witch, Joe remained coy, saying: "Vision? He’s dead as far as I know." Do you buy that?

Could Iron Man Return?

That may seem like a silly question, but Joe was indeed asked about the possibility of Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. To be fair, resurrections are commonplace in comic books so what does the future hold in store for Tony Stark?

"Tony’s dead, you know?" Russo explained. "That’s it for Robert. He’s done." Well, that puts and end to that then.

Why Doesn't Bucky Become The New Captain America?

In the comics, it's Bucky who becomes Captain America following Steve Rogers' demise. Years later, The Falcon does inherit the mantle, and that's the direction the MCU has gone in. So, why did the Russo Brothers decide to skip over the former Winter Soldier's time as the Star Spangled superhero? According to Joe, it just made more sense for them from a story perspective to go with Sam.

"Cap and Bucky are brothers but you know what's interesting about them is they're very different people and I think that Bucky always has the ability to have his mind corrupted, it can always be taken over by someone else. That hasn't been resolved for him and Sam has his free will and I think that Sam also had a similar ethic as Cap as far as service goes in the military.

"Sam still retains that spirit of service to the community and he lives in that circle very clearly in the movies. Comic books and movies are very different and our interpretation of the characters if you've been following the movies are very different from what the books are so as it stands in these films, Bucky is still a damaged character who I think feels like he doesn't want the shield and I think that ultimately Sam is a character with free will who is the closest in morality to what Cap was and Cap believes he deserves it."

Captain America Has Always Been Able To Lift Mjolnir

"I think everyone who’s a Marvel fan in that moment where Cap tested the hammer, felt deep down in their heart that he was worthy and that he could potentially lift that and boy wouldn’t it be special if one day he did," Joe said when asked about the moment in Avengers: Age of Ultron that Captain America first attempted to life Thor's hammer.

So why didn't he use it before now? Was he not worthy? "In our heads, he was able to wield it," Anthony confirms. "He didn’t know that until that moment in Ultron when he tried to pick it up, but Cap’s sense of character and his sort of humility and sort of out of deference to Thor’s ego, Cap in that moment realizing he can move the hammer, decides not to."

How Howard The Duck's Cameo Came To Be

It was easy to miss, but Howard the Duck arrives alongside the rest of The Ravagers during that final battle with Thanos in Avengers: Endgame so how did that come to pass? "Literally a month ago...it was probably just over a month ago, it was one of the last things we did," Joe says. "We were sitting in VFX and I was watching that shot of everyone coming out of the portals and I was like 'God, it would be so awesome to have a Howard the Duck cameo here.'"

"And I just said to the VFX team "Is there any way in hell you can pull this off?'" he continues. "We were literally like three days from ending all VFX shots and they looked at me and were like 'We'll see what we can do.'"

Thor Vs. Thor

Thor obviously visits Asgard in Avengers: Endgame but never comes face to face with his younger, buffer self. Was that ever in the works, though? "We did have that thread," Joe confirmed.

"We did have that, actually," Anthony added. "There was a sequence where they did finally confront each other in Asgard. I can’t remember exactly why we weaved off of that."

"I think it overly complicated, and then we liked the 'Cap vs Cap' better," his brother concluded.

Gamora's Fate

It's already been confirmed that the original Gamora is dead and gone, but what about the version from 2014 who travelled into the present? "Quill's searching for her at the end of the movie, is she alive, is she dead, we have no idea," Joe explains. "Even if she is alive, it's not the same Gamora."

"The way timelines work is you've gotten a different character. This is not the same person, she doesn't have the same emotional memories, she doesn't have the same relationship to him...as far as, they look like the same person but they don't have the same experiences and the same emotional memories, it's not the same person. No matter what, this would be a journey for him."

Explaining The Marvel Multiverse

The Spider-Man: Far From Home trailer revealed the existence of the Multiverse and while there's been some speculation that Mysterio is lying to Spider-Man and Nick Fury, it sounds like Avengers: Endgame did indeed lead to its creation. "What's most compelling is that this is a multiverse," Joe confirms.

"But that is what's most interesting. You've seen everything else, everything else about being looped in time or whatever, you've seen it all. What's really interesting is that you create multiple timelines and it's said in the movie twice."

He also elaborated on Bruce Banner's comments and explained that while changing the past doesn't change your timeline, it does create a new, alternate future. "What happens is you then create a new future by going into the past. So, you have to travel to the past, come back to that present and then fix it moving forward because you can’t' alter it from back there. So, by necessity, by logic, you then create -- if you were to stay back there -- you would create an alternate timeline."

Cutting Thanos' Backstory

This is more about Infinity War than it is Endgame, but Joe has now revealed what those deleted scenes delving into the Mad Titan's backstory would have entailed had they made it into the first film.

"We did a lot of drafts of Infinity War that involved Thanos’s backstory. We even had a draft where you saw ten minutes of his backstory. You saw him as a child, you saw him try to convince his planet that it was doomed and recommend that they randomly kill half the population to save the planet. He gets sent to a prison off-planet and eventually watches the planet destroy itself….It is a whole other film, but sometimes that’s the value in a story room, of writing that draft in the script because you go ‘alright, at least I have that in my brain now. And I understand that and I can pitch it to Brolin, and he can hear that intimate level fo detail so we all know what his story is and how he feels about his past. He’s a very tortured character who’s sociopathic, but ultimately it’s benevolent sociopathy."

A Different Take On That Morag Sequence

When War Machine and Nebula travel to Morag, they retrieve the Power Stone after knocking Star-Lord out while he dances around the planet. However, that was originally going to be quite a bit more intricate and would have included Black Widow and Hawkeye.

"I think we had one where the entire planet was under water now and that was the complication when they arrived at Morag. They had to actually get to the temple of the Power Stone by [water]," Anthony said, before Joe elaborated on what that would have entailed. "They were going there earlier than Quill had gone, and there was a tide shift on the planet and it was under water and now they had to figure out — it was a set piece I think that involved Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula, and Rhodey."

"There may have been a giant sea eel," Anthony laughed while noting that it was "a very early idea."

No Cameos For Quicksilver And Justin Hammer

Quite some time ago, rumours started swirling that Justin Hammer (Sam Rockwell) and Quicksilver (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) would be making an appearance in Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame.

Asked if that was ever really going to happen, the jointly replied "no" before Anthony added, "And it was also just, our struggle on this movie was just to deal with — there was so much on the table. We were always petrified of not doing service to the stuff that was more central to the narrative. That was really what we had to focus on at the end of the day."

Black Widow's Big Scene Was Originally Much Different

Black Widow makes the ultimate sacrifice in Avengers: Endgame, but things very nearly panned out differently for the hero on Vormir in an earlier draft. "There was another version of Vormir that involved Thanos’ troops showing up and then Black Widow having to run the Gauntlet and getting shot as she runs the Gauntlet to leap off the cliff," Joe revealed.

He added that the action-heavy sequence "just felt like it was distracting from what was most powerful about the scene, which was two friends, one of them having to die, and then literally fighting each other to be the one who dies. And that just seemed like a more emotional and on-story execution of it, and we ended up scrapping the more complicated version of Vormir."

About Those Namor And Captain Britain "Easter Eggs"

In Avengers: Endgame, Okoye mentions Earthquakes under the sea off the coast of Africa but was that a nod to Namor the Submariner? "Maaaybe," Joe smiled before Anthony teased: "Some people may interpret it that way."

As for whether that agent with the surname "Braddock" might be a reference to Captain Britain (a.k.a. Brian Braddock), Joe didn't seem quite as confident. "I think we uh, maybe... or maybe it’s just a guy named Braddock [laughs]."

Some Scrapped Reunions On The Battlefield

"There’s always more beats to the battle, battles traditionally of this scale tend to be bloated. And then we try to pull them down to the very essential elements," Joe said when asked about deleted scenes. "Sometimes when you get in the edit room and start playing around with it, the structure doesn’t sustain — or you find a better structure, and a better path through it. And some beats you think are gonna work don’t work quite as well as others, and then there’s sort of battle fatigue."

"I think there was like a Rocket and Groot reunion moment," he continued. "There might have been an Ant-Man and the Wasp reunion moment, but it just started to feel like an endless series of reunions where there are future movies coming, and those moments can be had in a different time."

Katherine Langford's Cut Role

Before the release of Avengers: Endgame, we learned that Katherine Langford had been cast in an undisclosed role but she was nowhere to be seen in the movie itself. Now, the filmmakers have revealed that she was supposed to take on the role of an older Morgan Stark.

"There was an idea that we had where Tony was going to go the metaphysical way station where Thanos saw his daughter when he snapped his finger. There was going to be a future version of his daughter in that way station," they revealed. "We showed it to a test audience, and it was really confusing."

"What we realized about it was we didn’t feel an emotional association with the adult version of his daughter. It wasn’t resonating with us on an emotional level which is why we moved away with it. His future daughter forgave him and gave him the peace to go,” the pair said of the cut scene." Here's hoping that makes its way on to the eventual Blu-ray release.

Captain America, No More

There's been a lot of speculation that Chris Evans might reprise the role of Captain America in a movie dealing with him travelling through time, but it sounds like the door is now closed on another appearance from the actor in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

"No, I think Chris — Chris is a very emotional person," Joe explained. "I think, maybe it’s evident if you follow him on Twitter — because he does put his heart into what he says — but I feel like he has to close the door on things and emotionally move onto the next thing."

Added Anthony, "There are no plans."

"I think for now he’s emotionally moved on, yes," concluded Joe.

Many thanks to ComicBook.com and the Happy Sad Confused podcast for the quotes used in this article.

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knocturnalzen10 - 5/7/2019, 6:30 AM

this film was so well done , people will look for flaws to feel special smh ........

this rivals TDK imo and that's rare for me to say .....

fadersdream - 5/7/2019, 7:10 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - I loved the Dark Knight... but I think it got left behind a long time ago.

DC has this tagline of 'greatest comic characters of all time', it doesn't really mean anything, it's just a slogan.

Dark Knight got that treatment too, I love that movie, flaws and all, but I fast forward through a LOT of it when I watch it now.

Where in a place now that will force transcendence, TDK and Ledgers death maybe held that back for a while because of forced reverence, it was almost disrespectful to be better. Everything was compared against it, and many of the failed comparisons weren't based on quality but on tone.

I'm excited for what will be a fresh new landscape of comic book films.

LEVITIKUZ - 5/7/2019, 7:33 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - Honestly I think the flaws in Endgame are rather apparent

But I’m glad you enjoyed it

knocturnalzen10 - 5/7/2019, 7:40 AM

@LEVITIKUZ - thanks brother and yes there are a few but look at the spectrum of the story and how they wrapped up a good portion of the character's we've followed for 10 years. mind you it's one of the most comicbookie film we've gotten (like ripped from the pages aspects) imo

knocturnalzen10 - 5/7/2019, 7:45 AM

@fadersdream - i'm very excited to see the new landscape as well .....

what makes the TDK so great because it's like TWS or logan , it's a film that unless you see the title these films are just great qt films in general .

fadersdream - 5/7/2019, 8:10 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - I agree. I would argue it's the most free from expectations, and gets to live a very independent life. The third one answered to the previous, the first one built up the world for the trilogy... but the Dark Knight was able to just tell an independent story, in a world that had already been built and road-proven.

But it also has its Training Day parts.
Training Day is this great film that ends with 'the Russians' killing Denzel Washington. Ten minutes added to a film that felt ten minutes too long.
TDK... ballerinas and diplomats.

I'll always wish that the DCU was building towards Kingdom Come.

knocturnalzen10 - 5/7/2019, 8:18 AM

@fadersdream - who are you telling .... i love a kingdom come run ... hell i'll even settle for an infinite crisis one ... but i think DC realized they need to first focus on making good to solid films and now be in the shadows of Nolan .. i didn't think Mos was back actually but what came afterwards had me squinting so frequently

TexasAvenger - 5/7/2019, 8:28 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - There's all these people with garbage takes on Endgame trying to shit on it on Twitter smh. Can't appreciate greatness.

knocturnalzen10 - 5/7/2019, 8:32 AM

@TexasAvenger - exactly !!!!

fadersdream - 5/7/2019, 8:35 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - agreed on the focus... I think Infinite Crisis may have been the problem. It's one of the holy grail's of the comics, but I don't know that it would translate.

Scaled down there is very little unique about it nowadays, and scaled up it's too broad and weird (wonderfully weird). Would love to be wrong, though. But I think they may have been laying little hints here and there for it.

Kingdom Come was essentially a Justice League book, with other characters, and could launch lessor knowns.

But, yeah, I love the idea that they are letting the characters breathe on there own a little. DC is too spurious right now with all their properties. It's tough on the fans to love something that will never get any bigger than it's TV show. Or to have 3 supermans running around.

CaptCoulson - 5/7/2019, 6:34 AM

"The filmmaker went on to point out that the final battle includes dozens of characters with history in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and notes the challenges that would have come with bringing in an unknown. "[We] just had too many characters on our plate. And you can't introduce somebody who doesn't have their own movie like [Captain] Marvel."

"You can't just throw them into the final chapter of a book," he concludes"
---------

Now see, does a statement like this speak to a key difference between the Russos and Joss Whedon right there? My point being, and I can't imagine there's many here who don't know this already, but the whole concept that when the final "new Avengers" group shot was being conceived for the Age Of Ultron, the shot in which we see Scarlet Witch enter the frame from the top and land softly, that VFX plate was originally shot for Captain Marvel. This is what completely baffles me. Obviously they changed their mind after a certain amount of time, but I don't understand how even for a day you think it's a good idea to introduce Captain Marvel in that spot. Not only was there no solo movie yet, there wasn't even the slightest hint of her in the universe yet. Whedon was going to have a major, new A-list Avenger just appear as part of the team with literally zero explanation.
Mind you I actually love and absolutely acknowledge what Joss Whedon did story-wise with the first Avengers, it just cracks me up there was actually a time when I was really bummed to learn he wouldn't be coming back for Avengers 3.

MexCowboyNation - 5/7/2019, 7:22 AM

@CaptCoulson - where is your proof?

hazapez - 5/7/2019, 8:04 AM

@MexCowboyNation - https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/04/14/joss-whedon-shot-fx-plates-for-captain-marvel-in-age-of-ultron

MyCoolYoung - 5/7/2019, 8:27 AM

@CaptCoulson - Feige said they were never doing that. Spiderman was introduced in civil war without a hint of him being in the universe.

The key to what they said was introducing a character in the final chapter

CaptCoulson - 5/7/2019, 8:41 AM

@MyCoolYoung - well first of all, Feige may have very well realized that wasn't a smart thing to do as soon as he heard it, but Whedon still had a genuine intention on trying to do it. That was my point, even for a time he thought it a good idea.

And I'm sorry but the Spiderman/CW thing is not really comparable, at all. They were giving him a proper introduction, in the middle of the movie, his very first scene as a normal kid. And his progression from there to a player being more involved was a sizeable plot thread.
Whedon was going to have Captain Marvel enter her first seconds of MCU time already on the team, saying nothing about it before or after. The movie still ends about a whole 20 seconds later.

Chewtoy - 5/7/2019, 8:46 AM

@CaptCoulson - Here’s the thing... I honestly don’t think it would have been all that different from what we got, which was:

At the end of a film he wasn’t in, Fury pulls out a pager and calls someone. The Captain Marvel logo comes up. We get a solo movie introducing Captain Marvel. The end credits of that film show her meeting the Avengers. In the next Avengers film she’s an Avenger with no further explanation.

Compare to:

At the end of Age of Ultron, Cap and Widow talk about having to field a new team of Avengers. He calls them to assemble, and there’s one we’ve never seen before dressed in an outfit with the Captain Marvel logo. Presumably, Whedon would have liked her to have her own movie after this tease, but even if that wasn’t in the cards the next film she appeared in would explain who she was and why she was an Avenger now.

Both endings reveal that there’s a hero out there that we’ve never heard of, and suddenly they’re important to the next Avengers film.

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MY HERO ACADEMIA Season 7 Countdown Kicks Off With Class 1-A Character Visuals

GHOST IN THE SHELL 2: INNOCENCE Returning To Theaters With New 4K Restoration

Crunchyroll Announces Release Date For ONE PIECE Season 14 Voyage 15 English Dub

Horror

TRAP: First Trailer For M. Night Shyamalan's Latest Spoils The Big Twist

IMMACULATE Star Sydney Sweeney Has Been Slammed By A Hollywood Producer: "She's Not Pretty, She Can't Act"

SCREAM VII: Rumored Details On Sidney And Gale's Roles And Ghostface's Targets - SPOILERS

Action Movies & TV

JAMES BOND: Henry Cavill Isn't Closing The Door On Playing 007; "Maybe I'm Too Old Now. Maybe I'm Not..."

Alex Garland's CIVIL WAR Is The #1 Movie In North America- Opens To $25.7M

THE ACCOUNTANT 2 Adds Four More Actors Including JURASSIC WORLD Star Daniella Pineda

Pro Wrestling & MMA News

AEW EVPs Matt And Nick Jackson, The Young Bucks, Have "No Regrets" After Airing ALL IN Footage

Kurt Angle Reflects On What Went Wrong During Final WWE Run: "Fans Could Tell I Was Not The Same Wrestler"

AEW President Tony Khan Believes It "Made A Lot Of Sense" To Air ALL IN Backstage Footage On DYNAMITE

Sci-Fi & Fantasy