@Spock0Clock -

@Spock0Clock - Exactly.

@knocturnalzen10 -

Cinema

@BlackBeltJones - If this was made by Studio Ghibli, it would already be nominated for Best Animated Picture.

@BlackBeltJones - TOTORO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@dracula - The time travel stuff was very poorly written. I can't see this being nominated, much less winning with that kind of writing.

And you're 100% right. Infinity War was better.

@heisei24 - I think that reporting was based on an interview with just one Academy voter who said something like that. I'm sure there are members who will never support Marvel on principle, but there are also members who will never support lots of things for lots of reasons. The Academy membership is probably a tangled mess of grudges and personal loyalties that (for many voters) far outweigh the objective quality of a film.

@MyCoolYoung - Now this, my friend, is a great comment!

I totally agree. I was let down by Endgame, personally. I thought they really messed up by using time travel, and the writing around the time travel was terrible, contradictory, and raised far too many questions.

I thought Infinity War was far better. That movie kept me on the edge of my seat as our heroes kept coming so close to stopping Thanos, only to be beaten at every turn. And the emotional weight of seeing all those characters get dusted at the end? Just pure gold.

But I totally agree. Marvel definitely deserves some kind of award for what they've accomplished as a whole. Maybe not Endgame itself. But the whole of the MCU. They've successfully accomplished something no one else has even really tried, at least not until the MCU started. And even the ones that tried to copy it failed miserably.

The closest thing I can think of to the MCU would be the James Bond films, but only because those all take place in the same universe (except the newer reboots I believe). But even those are just multiple sequels of the same character. They made over 20 Bond movies before Daniel Craig's reboot, but that still didn't have multiple franchises all participating in an overall story in the same world.

So in the end, there really isn't anything quite like the MCU.

@MyCoolYoung - The only reason I say its contradictory is for one thing. It might seem like nitpicking, but I can't seem to let it go because it has so many implications.

The Hulk says that you can't change the future/present by changing the past. That means that if you change the past it would have to create another timeline. Can we all agree on that?

The Ancient One also says removing the Infinity Stones from a timeline would create an alternate timeline. Which is kind of a no-brainer considering what Hulk said. If you go back in time and remove the stones, then it will create another timeline because you've now changed the past.

So going back and replacing the stones and Mjolnir in the past where they got them from makes no sense. Because the second they removed the stones it would have created an alternate timeline with no stones. So going back and replacing those stones at the exact time they were removed wouldn't matter, because you can't change the future/present events that already happened. So they can replace the stones, but it wouldn't destroy that other timeline that was created once they removed them. If anything, it would create a THIRD timeline. So we would be left with this:

The original MCU timeline. The timeline where they removed the stones. A THIRD timeline where they removed, then replaced the stones. This isn't taking into consideration anything The Ancient One said about timelines being created by removing stones. This is going 100% off the idea that you can't change events that have already happened.

"Ultron thinks we're monsters. That we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him: it's about whether he's right"

This quote leads perfectly into another big problem I have. It makes the heroes seem very UN-heroic. They lost fair and square to Thanos in their original timeline. But they're willing to go into the past, alter events there causing god knows what ramifications, all so they can try and save their own timeline. Thats bordering on sympathetic villainy, if anything.

@MyCoolYoung - Kang will fix it all. It's what he does.