AVENGERS: ENDGAME - Kevin Feige Talks Old Man Steve Rogers And How People In Planes Returned During "The Blip"

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige weighs in on the mystery surrounding Steve Rogers' return to the present as an old man, & sheds some light on what happened to people who were in the during The Blip.

By JoshWilding - Aug 12, 2019 02:08 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame

Avengers: Endgame will be available on Blu-ray from tomorrow, and there's one moment that fans are still hotly debating. That is, of course, what happened to Captain America when he travelled back in time and the life he led in a different timeline before returning to his own. T

he Russo Brothers have a different take on what actually happened to the movie's writers, but where does Kevin Feige land on the hero's fate?

"That's a good question, for another time..." he teased. "Who says that? Maz Kanata in The Force Awakens in regard to, how did Luke Skywalker's lightsaber get in your castle. Ever since I heard that line I said, I'm gonna use that – a lot!" As we've noted in the past, it definitely sounds like there are plans for Marvel to explore Captain America's trip through time...we just don't know when!

On a different note, Feige was also asked about "The Blip" and what might have happened to the people on planes who were dusted when Thanos snapped his fingers at the end of Avengers: Infinity War.

"If people were in an airplane when they were dusted, they didn't return at 35,000 feet," he confirms. "They didn't fall to their deaths because Smart Hulk is smart, and when he snapped... You can wish for whatever you want and you can wish for everyone to come back safely. Done."

Of course, the people on planes who died because the pilots were dusted may not have been so lucky!

For more big reveals from Feige about Avengers:
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The Scene That Always Makes Kevin Feige Cry

Avengers: Endgame has a lot of moments that bring a tear to the eye, but there is one, in particular, that gets Feige every time he sees it. However, it's not the deaths of characters like Iron Man or Black Widow. Instead, it's that epic Portals scene. "Almost every version, starting with the green screen, just actors running down a green ramp version, got me. Every time," he reveals.

"More so than any of the deaths. At some point I know they're not dead, the actors aren't dead, it's not real. That moment of them all returning, with me it goes even deeper because it's, 'Holy Toledo, we've introduced all these actors, we've made movies of all these characters.' So that got me a number of times." Given how awe-inspiring that scene is, no one can blame him!

When That Star-Studded Funeral Scene Was Shot

It's no secret that Marvel Studios told cast members that they would be shooting a wedding when they were, in fact, there for Tony Stark's funeral, but what might surprise you is just how long they've been sitting on that scene. According to Feige, it was shot back in October 2017, "the day we shot the 10th anniversary photo."

"That's why we did that photo then, because we had everybody there," he explains, while finally shedding some light on how that photo happened. "And it was astounding, having all those actors there, and it's very solemn in the movie, because they're all great actors, it's very effective. On the day it was just insane."

Where The Idea Of Infinity War And Endgame Came From

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at one of these! According to Feige, he and a number of others from Marvel Studios go on retreats to work on ideas for the future of the MCU while isolated away from typical distractions back in Hollywood. It was at one of these that the two-part finale was dreamed up.

"We were on our third retreat, perhaps, five years or more ago, when we started talking about what would become Infinity War and Endgame. And in particular, how do we pay off this purple guy that Joss [Whedon] set up at the end of Avengers and start to intertwine him with these awesome Infinity Stones that we have that provide wonderful macguffins in all these individual films."

"When you put them together, we thought it could be more," he explains. "And it was on that retreat that we thought of doing two movies at the same time, which has its pros and cons."

How Logan Inspired Iron Man's Death

Marvel Studios has frequently killed off villains for good, but we're used to seeing heroes come back to life. After all, they faked us out with Nick Fury's apparent demise in Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Feige pointed to that as being a good example of why Avengers: Endgame needed to deliver "stakes and real emotion."

Surprisingly, it was then that Feige looked to a non-Marvel Studios superhero movie for inspiration. "We saw Logan like the audience did, in a theater having nothing to do with the making of that film and went, 'oh my god, what an amazing ending for Hugh as this character,'" he explains.

"And there are only a handful of examples where an actor so associated with a character can go out perfectly. And Logan is the only one that jumps to mind right now, there are not that many of them. And that's what we desperately wanted to give Robert, and that was what our focus was on."

Robert Downey Jr. Learned Of His Fate A Long Time Ago

We know that Marvel Studios had to pay Robert Downey Jr. a lot of money to return for Captain America: Civil War and Spider-Man: Homecoming, but the actor learned about Iron Man's final fate long before that. "I remember pitching that to Robert Downey Jr. probably in December of 2015, I think," he remembers, which places this conversation around the time Civil War was being shot.

"I pitched him the idea of the two-part finale for Avengers and Homecoming, which was a part of that leading into it. It took a little while, but eventually it came together. I think at first it doesn't seem real that this journey will come to an end. But as it got closer to filming, it really was emotional for all of us, and particularly for him." How that never ended up leaking is hard to say!

Gwyneth Paltrow Knows Nothing About The MCU...

Recently, Gwyneth Paltrow made headlines when it was revealed that she had no idea she had starred in Spider-Man: Homecoming. As it turns out, she also forgot that Samuel L. Jackson is Nick Fury!

"Tom Holland [was] coming up to me, saying, 'Is that Michelle Pfeiffer? What is happening?'" Feige laughed, remembering that funeral scene. "Gwyneth Paltrow [was] asking why Sam Jackson was there, and the other actors [were] jumping in saying, 'What are you talking about? He's Nick Fury! You've been in movies with him.' But it was really something special."

Interestingly, Feige was also at the funeral...sort of. "I was on the balcony of that house," he reveals. "In that shot, as you see in the movie, right inside the cabin, was video village where I was sitting with [executive producer] Trinh Tran and Joe and Anthony."

One Character Who Didn't Make It Into The Funeral

Amazingly, everyone at the funeral was really there, but Marvel Studios did briefly consider adding one more character with visual effects during post-production. "We did at one point toy with putting Cassie there," Feige reveals, referring to Scott Lang's teenage daughter. "At one point we thought of digitally adding her so it's the family."

As for why it didn't happen, he says: "[We] thought, 'This is the heroes celebrating the other heroes and the loss of Tony', so we didn't do it. Aside from Smart Hulk and Rocket and Groot, everybody's actually standing there."

More Deleted Scenes?

We know for a fact that the Avengers: Endgame Blu-ray doesn't feature certain scenes that were filmed, including one revolving around Katherine Langford as an older Morgan Stark. The question is, are we actually going to see them somewhere down the line?

"If we do a big, giant Infinity Saga box set, we might include- I’m assuming if you're going to spend the money to buy a box set with everything in it, you're a fan. And it'll take more than a couple of really, really bad scenes to turn you," he laughed. "There are things that we think nobody should ever see."

"And I think we've just recently been discussing that now we can start to show some of our less proud moments." Disney+ would be a good platform for that and it's hard not to wonder what those might be. For now, it seems as if we'll have to just wait and see.

Head over to Empire for more highlights from Kevin Feige's Q&A.

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recently released VFX stills from Avengers: Endgame!

Captain Marvel leads the charge as Earth's Mightiest Heroes hover over Titan II and attempt to formulate a plan to take down Thanos and bring the trillions who died back to life.

In this before and after shot, we see how the ship the team travelled in was enhanced with visual effects and outer space was added in the background. Sean Gunn is also replaced with Rocket!

This is a particularly interesting shot as we see how those effects surrounding Captain Marvel were created. We also see that some changes were made to the colour of the hero's costume.

With the rest of the Guardians of the Galaxy dead and gone, Rocket was given the spotlight and pretty much became an Avenger as a result. Needless to say, he looked awesome in this movie.

Captain Marvel's costume has undergone some changes since her first appearance in the 1990s, but this suit didn't last particularly long as the 2023 version was obviously completely redesigned.

The Guardians' ship hovers over Titan II, and this is a gorgeous piece of imagery. Moments later, Thanos would be decapitated by Thor and that would set the 2014 version on his quest for revenge.

These revealing before and after images show how the battle between the two versions of Captain America was created. It was an impressive sequence and clearly not that easy to put together.

The team blasts into outer space here as the imagery introduced in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 showing how spaceships essentially enter lightspeed made its return in Avengers: Endgame.

Who would have guessed that Stormbreaker was entirely CGI? Then again, considering the fact that it passed right by Brie Larson's head, it's understandable that Marvel didn't want to risk anything!

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MosquitoFarmer - 8/12/2019, 2:51 AM

Feige with the quick answers. "Done."

TheUnworthyThor - 8/12/2019, 3:08 AM

I feel bad for the people who were in situations like Hawkeye and chose to commit suicide and then their loved ones are brought back only to find out the people they loved killed themselves years ago because they turned to dust.

TheUnworthyThor - 8/12/2019, 3:10 AM

Feralwookiee - 8/12/2019, 4:38 AM

@TheUnworthyThor - I've always wondered what happened to pregnant women and conjoined twins... 🤤

TheUnworthyThor - 8/12/2019, 4:46 AM

@Feralwookiee - Yeah... a lot of bad shit went down that probably thankfully they are going to gloss right over.

Feralwookiee - 8/12/2019, 7:53 AM

@TheUnworthyThor - True. And then there's this dilemma...

😜

MosquitoFarmer - 8/12/2019, 12:07 PM

@TheUnworthyThor - Same for pets who lost their owners. That's a sad one to think about.

MotherGooseUPus - 8/12/2019, 3:20 AM

the more Cap with Evans as Steve... the BETTER

GreypilgrimXXX - 8/12/2019, 4:54 PM

@MotherGooseUPus - Cap kicked more of Thanos's a$$ with just Mjolnir than Thor did with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker tsk tsk.

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 3:20 AM

"Of course, the people on planes who died because the pilots were dusted may not have been so lucky!"

Us nerds just want to nitpick and take the joy out of everything HAHAHAH. Couldn't SMART HULK have solved this query too??

Anyway the real question they need to be answering is "2 CAPS" in the timeline?? So essentially there's one captain america who knows about all the bad shit that happens in the world from 1945 or whatever - until 2016 (whenever ice cap is unfrozen)....AND does nothing about these horrors?? I need explanations!!

CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2019, 3:34 AM

@OptimusGrime - There weren't 2 Caps in our timeline. There were two Caps in whatever timeline he lived in with Peggy.

As they explained it, you can't go to the past and change future events, so by him living with Peggy, it DEFINITELY would have changed what happened after he met up with her in the past. So it would have had to create an alternate timeline.

People use the argument that you can only create an alternate timeline if an Infinity Stone is taken from it. But they never said that was the ONLY way to do it.

When you think about it, Peggy would have inevitably lived a very different life with Steve, which absolutely would have changed her future. And then when you add in the Butterfly Effect, there's no telling what else would have changed.

bkmeijer2 - 8/12/2019, 3:46 AM

@CorndogBurglar - But the argument that could also be brought up is that the MCU we have been watching for the past decade is already the whatever timeline where Cap already returned.

Personally I prefer that there is a timeline where world history changed massively since 1948 (or whenever Cap returned), because I think Cap would never not act when he knows danger is around

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 4:39 AM

@CorndogBurglar - See this is where everyone confuses it!! if Steve was always her husband, then his going back in time to live with her DOESN'T create any changes, and the universe never has to branch off. It explains why they were always so vague about mentioning her husband or family - it was always Steve. So Caps timeline is cyclical... theres always 2 caps..and one lets world horrors occur whilst chilling with peggy! wtf??!

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 4:57 AM

@CorndogBurglar - "People use the argument that you can only create an alternate timeline if an Infinity Stone is taken from it. But they never said that was the ONLY way to do it"
COME ON DUDE - we're not working in maybes and what ifs! we can only go on what we've been told and what we've see...we cant use "ifs" as qualifiers. And of course the MCU we've been watching is the timeline cap returned..anything else is just too much and too deux ex machina!

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 4:59 AM

@MalseMarcel - exactly...doesnt make sense for cap to just chill and watch shizz happen. Id like a cap story where he's involved with these world horrors but on secret misssions and shizz...that would be dope. ooo maybe secret wars?!? if you've read that comic? great way to bring in wolverine etc

bkmeijer2 - 8/12/2019, 6:28 AM

@OptimusGrime - Which of the two Secret Wars do you mean? Or just Secret War, since that does focus on a secret agent Cap amongst others (if I remember correctly)

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 7:09 AM

@MalseMarcel - errr not 100% sure. Its the one where Cap, wolverine, luke cage, widow do an undercover mission somewhere like latveria?? Yeeah "Secret war" from what i remember?? sorry losing nerd point here. But yeah...might be a good way to give cap a break and re-introduce with other characters ...ie mutants?? Thoughts??

CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2019, 7:26 AM

@MalseMarcel - I suppose that would make sense.

But where does that leave Sharon Carter? Does that make Cap her father or grandfather? We can even say she was born before Cap got together with Peggy.

But either way, doesn't that make Sharon and Cap having a crush on each other and even kissing during Civil War kind of.....disgusting? I mean, she would pretty much have to know he was related to her, unless him and Peggy just lied to everyone about who he really was, including their own family.

CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2019, 7:30 AM

@OptimusGrime - Lol. I get what you're saying and yeah, that would work I suppose.

But like I just mentioned to MalseMarcelm where does this leave Sharon Carter in all of this?

Is she Cap's daughter or grand daughter? (Sorry, i'm not clear on how many generations there were between Peggy and Sharon) Did Cap and Peggy keep the fact that her husband was Steve Rogers a secret from everyone, including their own family and children?

Even if Sharon is related by blood, Peggy had a child BEFORE Cap married her, thats still pretty weird and gross that Cap and Sharon had a crush on each other and kissed.

Its like a whole Luke Skywalker/Princess Leia thing.

Chewtoy - 8/12/2019, 8:28 AM

@CorndogBurglar - Peggy is Sharon’s Aunt, not mother or grandmother.

I get that the time-traveling generational thing makes it really unusual, but there are plenty of instances of people dating the sibling of a prior romantic interest in movies and real life. Cap kissed two members of the same family who were around 30 years old at the time. As scandals go, that’s pretty tame.

OptimusGrime - 8/12/2019, 8:34 AM

@CorndogBurglar - oh god yeaah...mind blown!! didnt think about that ...grossss! But isnt sharon peggys niece?? stilll...so by way of future/past ignorance cap has kissed his niece..technically before she was his neice?? or after??? Jeezz youve thrown an incest loop in there..which cannot be ignored!!! GODDAMN YOU CORNDOG!!! Hahahaha

bkmeijer2 - 8/12/2019, 9:01 AM

@OptimusGrime - Yeah Secret War is the one where Fury plans to overthrow Latveria. Although the premise sounds pretty cool, but I wasn't a fan of the ensemble of heroes (Cap, Spidey, Daredevil, Black Widow, Luke Cage and Wolverine).

I much rather see a limited Disney+ series where Cap just stops stuff, like the JFK assassination and 9/11 or even stuff like ocean trashing or oil and gas leaks from happening. Although Loki's series is also gonna focus on changing history, I think it would be fun to see Cap storm in BP's HQ to warn them about Deepwater Horizon

newhire13 - 8/12/2019, 10:04 AM

@OptimusGrime - IDK, they win and save the universe with the way the timeline turns out. If he goes back and changes things that does run the risk of changing things so much that they don’t win. The future goes from a certainty to all bets are off. That’s something I’m sure Cap considered. It’s definitely a tough spot to be in.

CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2019, 1:03 PM

@Chewtoy - Its tame? Have you been reading the rest of our conversation? OptimusGrime is saying that Steve was always Peggy's husband since the beginning of the MCU. That means he's related to Sharon Carter.

He isn't just kissing or dating a sibling of a prior love interest. He's kissing his niece.

That's not tame, man lol

Chewtoy - 8/12/2019, 2:54 PM

@CorndogBurglar - One, They never dated. They kissed, once. Neither one of them was attached. Neither one of them are of any blood relation to each other. They were both the same age when it happened.

That’s tame.

OptimusGrime - 8/13/2019, 2:01 AM

@MalseMarcel - I get what you're saying...but a lot of this stuff would be changing history as we know it. I'd like it thaat these things still happened - maybe theres a politics struggle that cap has to deal with in that he has to let these things happen (911 / deepwater etc) to stop even bigger threats that we as the public would never know about it? All done under the banner of a secret captain america - working in the shadows...with mutants! Im telling you bro...we could write this...we could do it now haha!!

OptimusGrime - 8/13/2019, 2:03 AM

@newhire13 - But what im saying is that he goes back because THEY WIN...knowing they win...knowing the sacrifices made. Because his life is a cycle..they're are always going to win if you get my meaning. Every Cap thats unfrozen ..starts the loop again

bkmeijer2 - 8/13/2019, 3:44 AM

@OptimusGrime - I totally get where you're going with it, but I think it would be better if we just fill it in ourselves rather than trying to make it canon. Thats the fun of the ambiguity

OptimusGrime - 8/13/2019, 3:57 AM

@MalseMarcel - you're one gracious articulate mofo! I look forward to crossing paths again squire! Until the next time...

bkmeijer2 - 8/12/2019, 3:44 AM

From the title I took it as old cap got dusted in the 2019 blip and returned with the 2023 snap. Anyway, do people still don't understand that asking Feige questions always leads to a non-answer

Kurne - 8/12/2019, 3:53 AM

I don't like how the opening of FFH answered this question. Honestly any person could figure out what Feige's saying here. But the opening [of FFH] is so quick to contradict that by that tiny footage alone. Just made it worse for the people picking the little details of the snap apart.

Kurne - 8/12/2019, 3:55 AM

Also, am I the only person who can't take "The Blip" seriously? When it first came on in FFH I thought it was just gonna be the kids way of referring to the situation. It sounds weird.

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Comedy Central Orders 10-Episode GOLDEN AXE Animated Series From Mike McMahan And Joe Chandler

FALLOUT Season 2 Will Feature One Of The Game's Most Iconic Monsters

FORTNITE Will Now Let You Block "Confrontational Emotes"

KNUCKLES: Paramount+ SONIC Spin-Off Hits Rotten Tomatoes With An Impressive 88%

Fan Project Estimates GTA 6 Map Size Could Be 2.5 Times Larger Than GTA 5

Anime & Manga

DRAGON BALL SUPER Interval Special Announced By Jump While Manga Remains On Indefinite Hiatus

New Teaser And Key Art For Live-Action TRILLION GAME Movie

Netflix's PARASYTE: THE GREY Is Now Streaming; Here's What The Critics Are Saying

MY HERO ACADEMIA Tops X-MEN '97, INVINCIBLE And More In Social Media Engagement

Netmarble Announces Release Date For New Game SOLO LEVELING: ARISE

KAIJU NO. 8 Reveals Opening And Ending Theme Animations

Horror

THE WATCHERS New Trailer Sees Dakota Fanning Terrorised In Ishana Night Shyamalan's Directorial Debut

EVIL DEAD RISE Director Lee Cronin Shares Gruesome New BTS Photos To Mark Movie's One-Year Anniversary

Happy 4/20! Check Out The Red Band Trailer For New Stoner Horror Movie TRIM SEASON

ABIGAIL Spoilers: Find Out What Happens - And Who Shows Up - In New Horror Comedy

TRAP: First Trailer For M. Night Shyamalan's Latest Spoils The Big Twist

IMMACULATE Star Sydney Sweeney Has Been Slammed By A Hollywood Producer: "She's Not Pretty, She Can't Act"

Action Movies & TV

Tom Cruise's MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 8 Adds SEVERANCE Actor Tramell Tillman

A24's CIVIL WAR Was The #1 Movie In America For The Second Week In A Row