AVENGERS: ENDGAME Writers Want To Adapt HOUSE OF M, But Address One Major Problem With That

We don't know what comes next for Avengers: Endgame writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely in the MCU, but they've now revealed that House of M is one idea they've been throwing around lately...

By JoshWilding - May 13, 2019 04:05 AM EST

Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame

The Russo Brothers have said on numerous occasions that a big screen adaptation of Secret Wars would bring them back to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but what about the writers of movies like Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Endgame?

Well, it seems they're not overly interested in a another massive crossover; instead, Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely have some other ideas. "There are all sorts of characters that would be fun," the former says. "Joe and Anthony keep saying Secret Wars and I keep going, "really, you want to take on another giant multi-character [crossover]?" I would personally be more drawn to setting up a single character again and taking them from the beginning."

McFeely adds: "I think House of M would be awesome. But you've got to earn it. It might take awhile. And it seems hard." Markus then interjected by pointing out the flaw in that idea: "It doesn't really seem within her [Scarlet Witch's] skillset."

"We took her skillset away. She had mind control stuff early," McFeely acknowledged. "Somewhere there's a great Moon Knight movie, but it's complicated."

If House of M were to happen, it's probably a good ten years or so away and the Scarlet Witch would have to be changed an awful lot to make it work. She'll need to become a mutant and have a significant power increase, both of which seem like a stretch at this point.

What do you guys think? Are there any storylines, in particular, you would like to see brought to the big screen?

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We Almost Got A Third Version Of Thor

In the movie, Captain America ends up coming face to face with the 2012 version of himself and they proceed to trade blows in what proves to be an evenly matched battle. Asked if it was always going to be Steve Rogers who runs his older self, Markus reveals that we almost got to see Thor's reaction to learning that he eventually winds up in a very dark place.

"We may have at one time had Dark World Thor catch sight of Endgame Thor and go, you know, "What the hell happened?" But it got too complex and it distracted from things," he says before McFeely jumps in by pointing out "That would have been a third version of Thor in this movie, you know?"

The End For Captain America And Iron Man

Avengers: Endgame concludes with Iron Man dying after making the ultimate sacrifice to stop Thanos, and Captain America growing old in the past with his one true love, Peggy Carter. Was it always the plan for their respective stories to wrap up like that, though? According to McFeely, yes.

"We're very excited by this. If you look back at the MCU, that Steve and Tony have been on different paths towards becoming the fullest versions of themselves. And Steve's arc is about trying to find some personal life, you know? Like he's been a man for others for so long, when does he get to be a man for himself? And how is that not selfish? How is that just earned?

"And Tony goes from sort of self-interested playboy to a man for others. A man willing to lay his life down. And so they sort of cross in the middle in Civil War, and the natural end of those arcs seemed to be Tony laying down his life, you know, flying over the wire as it were, and Steve going and getting a life. So where we hit upon it was in order to become their best selves, Steve had to find a life, and Tony had to lose his."

Iron Man Vs. Heimdall

Before deciding to take Earth's Mightiest Heroes back to the events of The Avengers, it seems that the events of Thor: The Dark World were going to receive the majority of screentime in Endgame. While that may sound disappointing on the surface, it would have actually led to a pretty epic sounding battle between Iron Man and Heimdall!

"Yeah, our first draft was a version where Tony and Thor go to Asgard, because I like the idea of Tony going, like, in theory going to Asgard and seeing science versus magic, and stuff like that," McFeely explains. "And then he fought Heimdall, who could of course see him even though Tony had an invisible stealth suit on or something.

"So at the end of Dark World you might remember that Volstagg and Sif go to the Collector and pass off the Reality Stone because they don't want to keep two stones in one place. So that was one attempt at it, and I think Joe Russo read it and he goes, "Why aren't we going to Avengers? It's only the most exciting movie." And so we went yep, let's do that."

The Scientific Explanation For Endgame's Time-Travel

The time-travel elements of Avengers: Endgame are still being debated, and more than likely will be for years to come. What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that it's a superhero movie and overthinking it just seems like a waste of, well, time.

For what it's worth, though, the writers did consult some experts and have now provided a very interesting (and possibly confusing) take on how this mechanic works in the MCU. Here's what McFeely says about the method they chose to use for Endgame:

"We brought in a couple of physicists who, to a man, said, "I'm glad you brought me in, because I've always wanted to talk to people from Hollywood to say that you know I love Back to the Future as much as the next person, but we don't think that's how it would work." Which was also helpful for us because as you can imagine, every time we went back to one of ... you know we have six different time heists in three or four different periods ... if every time you went back you created a new Biff's Casino, for want of a better term, right? Another crack in the version of your timeline? We would never get out of the second act

"So for us the strongest thing we could do, and the most helpful thing we could do, is to operate under some kind of branch reality, so that the things that have already happened ... which is what ... again, it's time travel which is humanly impossible, but a number of physicists had told us it's much more likely we would operate in a branch reality than a singular timeline. So that's the floor for the time travel conversation."

A Conflicting Captain America Theory

The Russo Brothers were recently quoted as saying that Steve Rogers lived his life out in an alternate past before returning to the original timeline to pass the shield and mantle of Captain America on to Sam Wilson. Markus, however, doesn't seem to agree with the "alternate reality" theory as he dubs it.

"That is our theory," he says when asked if there were two Captain Americas in existence for a time. "We are not experts on time travel, but the Ancient One specifically states that when you take an Infinity Stone out of a timeline it creates a new timeline. So Steve going back and just being there would not create a new timeline. So I reject the "Steve is in an alternate reality" theory."

"I do believe that there is simply a period in world history from about '48 to now where there are two Steve Rogers," he continues, further confusing matters. "And anyway, for a large chunk of that one of them is frozen in ice. So it's not like they'd be running into each other."

The Dead Remain Dead

Bruce Banner points out that he tried and failed to bring Natasha back when he used the Infinity Gauntlet, but is there a chance that the second Snap resurrected the likes of Black Widow and Loki?

"No, I mean we only brought back the people who were effectively disintegrated by the Snap at the end of Infinity War," Markus confirms. "Anybody who died over the course of the movie through neck-snapping or stabbing or being thrown off a cliff or having a Mind Stone torn out of their head stayed dead." That means The Vision is still gone, so who knows how he returns on Disney+!

Black Widow's Sacrifice

In Avengers: Endgame, Black Widow fights Hawkeye for the chance to be the one to sacrifice herself in exchange for the Soul Stone as she believes her life has been building up to this point.

However, with a solo movie set to be released for the character next year and Hawkeye's habit of dying in the comic books, did McFeely every consider having Clint be the one to perish?

"Well, you know the rules of the Soul Stone. So, of our group, I guess you could make an argument you could send Smart Hulk and Natasha. But we've always felt that the platonic love between Natasha and Clint is pretty evergreen. And when they get to that moment and he now has so much red in his ledger... we liked this idea that she was the last one on the wall, right? That she had found her purpose and her family in Avengers and could not give that up, and would not, much like Steve Rogers ... or I should say like an older Steve Rogers. This Steve Rogers is despairing in a way, right? Maybe we should stop, but she won't.

"So we've always thought that the most perfect conclusion to her arc would be to die for her new family, or to sacrifice greatly for her new family. We toyed with not doing that, and we had another version, and several women on the crew said, "Don't you dare take that choice away from her. The heroic thing is for Natasha to do it, not for Hawkeye to do it." And so we listened to that. Yeah."

Jane Foster's Return

We know that some camera trickery was involved with Natalie Portman's return as Jane Foster, as old footage from The Dark World was used along with a new line of dialogue she recorded but was she always set to play a role here? Apparently so, according to McFeely.

"It was very hard to find a way to not do that, seeing as one of the Infinity Stones is inside her for primarily the only time we've ever seen it. It's literally inside her arm, so there weren't too many variations that didn't have Natalie Portman in them," he reveals.

"There were longer ones, but they ... you know you wound up before Thor and his mother was so rich and so on point in terms of what he needed to learn that in already a three-hour movie we couldn't really have a long scene between, say, Rocket and Jane, because, again, it's drifting off of the character stories that we wanted to tell."

Why Howard Stark Made An Appearance

In a very unexpected twist, Captain America and Iron Man travel back to 1970 and the latter encounters his father just weeks before he's set to be born. It makes for an emotional moment in the film, and McFeely reveals that they always wanted to return to this period as a way of wrapping up the issues Tony had with Howard (which they also touched on in Captain America: Civil War).

"We knew that we wanted a sort of no-going-back hiccup to happen during at least one of the time-heist journeys. So when we knew that Henry Pym and Howard Stark had sort of a friction relationship back in the day, and Peggy Carter helped found S.H.I.E.L.D, and that there was undoubtedly a time when they were all together, if you decided that they were out of Pim Particles and had only one way to go, that was pretty delightful. And it was going to be able to hit a bunch of buttons. Remember, all the journeys sort of allow each character to deal with emotional stuff, and obviously Tony always had daddy issues."

The Falcon Is The New Captain America

As we mentioned, Avengers: Endgame wraps up with Steve Rogers handing his shield over to Sam Wilson. so does that officially mean he's the new Captain America? "As far as we know, yeah," McFeely states before his writing parter interjects with, "Certainly seems like it to me."

Well, that's a rather definitive answer and one that should shake up that planned Disney+ TV series...

How The MCU Is Forever Changed

After hinting that Spider-Man: Far From Home will have to find a way to deal with the five-year time-jump by explaining that many of Peter Parker's classmates have now grown up, McFeely went on to make it clear that the MCU is a very different - and potentially damaged world - moving forward.

"Oh for sure, it's the Marvel Universe as far as we know is five years ahead of where it was at the end of Infinity War. Full stop. Period. Yes. It is a big swing, it's complicated, it means that half of the planet basically has either lost five years or lived through a terrible five years. Yes, that's the MCU going forward."

Will We See A New Iron Man?

Gwyneth Paltrow has strongly indicated that she's now done in the MCU so what becomes of Iron Man if Rescue won't be there to fill the void? "Ooh, well there certainly are a bunch of people with suits who are alive," Markus teases before McFeely adds: "But we don't know what they've got planned."

So, as Markus points out, perhaps don't read too much into that appearance from Harley Keener. "Yeah, there are no Iron Teen scripts as far as I know."

Could Steve Rogers Return?

Over the past week, fans have made it clear they would love to see a movie delving into Captain America's time in the past to find out what exactly he was up to. Asked if there's a chance that could happen, Markus says, "Possibly. I think maybe all I did was Steve was a stay-at-home dad and Peggy went to work at S.H.I.E.L.D. I don't know that there were any adventures."

Is Thor A Guardian Of The Galaxy Now?

"Ask Peter Quill," Markus responds when asked the question above. As for McFeely, all he will say is "Yeah, you might have to ask James [Gunn] or Quill." He's totally a Guardian now but whether he's the leader is definitely a question that will be answered further down the line.

Many thanks to Fandango for the quotes used throughout this post.

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Tweekie - 5/13/2019, 4:12 AM

Thor is a guardian now..... but we all know who is in charge.

dracula - 5/13/2019, 4:15 AM

@Tweekie - Obviously the one played by Chris

bkmeijer2 - 5/13/2019, 4:18 AM

"Somewhere there's a great Moon Knight movie, but it's complicated."

Alright, this sounds very interesting

JoeInTheBox - 5/13/2019, 4:58 AM

@MalseMarcel - They've elaborated on Kevin Smith's podcast about this. McFeely was just throwing that out there, it didn't sound like there was an actual project in motion. The complication he was referring to, was how to break down the years of iterations of the character(i.e. power set, psychological situation, etc).

dracula - 5/13/2019, 4:19 AM

Simple way to explain mutant, obviously very few should already exist, Magneto, Professor X, Wolverine and a few others, but have maybe 10% of the people brought back from the snap, have their mutant gene activated by it, also would retcon Quicksilver and scarlet Witch into being mutants again, the mind stone didn't give them powers, it activated their mutant gene

ChrisRed - 5/13/2019, 4:20 AM

@dracula - that could be a way to explain mutants in the MCU.

SheepishOne - 5/13/2019, 8:34 AM

@dracula - piggybacking off of that idea, have a Wakandan develop the ability to manipulate the weather after she returns from being snapped. Then, T'Challa has to seek out someone to help her control her abilities, as he does not understand them. This leads T'Challa to Professor X, somehow. T'Challa is understanding about the existing Mutants being in hiding, as Wakanda has done so for an eternity. Prof X agrees to take the Wakandan (Storm) into his school, until she can control her abilities. T'Challa gives some big speech to Prof X about coming out of hiding and helping the world. Climax of the movie is the first team of X-Men coming together to face whatever threat. It looks like they might lose, and Storm shows up for the win.

Then, you could tease Avengers vs X-Men by having the central conflict being "why haven't the X-Men helped with anything".

Or something like that.

ChrisRed - 5/13/2019, 4:19 AM

I think House of M would be a great movie but the X-characters need to be established first. And yes, Wanda needs a power boost before she can change reality.

Spock0Clock - 5/13/2019, 4:29 AM

@ChrisRed - She doesn't need a power boost, per se. She just needs a reason to fully lose control in a way that we haven't seen before.

Unites - 5/13/2019, 5:21 AM

@Spock0Clock - I thought her fight against Thanos as Endgame was already a set-up. She doesn't need a power boost, indeed.

ShimmyShimmyYA - 5/13/2019, 6:30 AM

@ChrisRed - she could just get the reality stone somehow whenever they decide to bring the stones back cause they weren’t actually destroyed

Spock0Clock - 5/13/2019, 4:22 AM

The top of my mid-to-long term wish list is Exiles. Now that a multiverse is firmly established, and after some time to set up the MCU versions of some more characters, the Exiles is where you would really get to play with a mature, continuity-rich world, with a multitude of actors who may be interested in returning in a new and surprising way.

(Maybe instead of officially being called "Exiles", that could be the gimmick of an MCU Excalibur team, since Cross-Time Capering is something they've done their share of, along with Brian's own dimension-hopping.)

But for right now, I think it's time to scale back a bit. Focus on some more character-driven stories. House of M is just a way of doing character vignettes, so I get the appeal, but Marvel should probably let time travel and mind-bending rest for a bit (except for characters like Doctor Strange where that's just an average Thursday).

DoctorDoomSayer - 5/13/2019, 4:46 AM

I say no rush on the mutants they can slowly come around as Marvels First Family are introduced which I think should have a teaser in Spidey FFH

ANewPope - 5/13/2019, 4:51 AM

So I finally watched Endgame last night...

VicSage - 5/13/2019, 5:00 AM

Somewhere down the line have Doctor Strange try to teach Scarlet Witch how to control her powers, but discover she's far more powerful than she believes. That opens the doorway for a potential power increase. I've always seen her powers as being similar to a sorcerer but just chaotic. Hence why her powers appear wispy and not structured like Strange's or Wong's. Have her take on some training to control it, only to unleash more power. There, problem solved.

Did people question Kitty Pryde's ability to suddenly send Logan's mind back into the past in Days of Future Past? We did, but also, didn't give a shit.

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 5:04 AM

I think for Dr. Strange 2 we're going to see a Dr. Strange and Hulk team-up.

In the movie the Hulk promised the Ancient One he would return the Stone to the time line. That promise still hasn't been kept because Thano's destroyed all the Stones.

Dr. Strange and Hulk VS Hell on Earth. Strange needs someone who can fight big Monsters :)

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 5:24 AM

@LordCipher - AND Thano's destroyed all the Infinty Stones with the second SNAP so that Stone still hasn't been replaced in real time.

Dr. Strange gave the Stone to Thano's and after he SNAPPED he destroed them all.

Hulk promise not kept yet.

Kumkani - 5/13/2019, 5:31 AM

@DoubleD - ...Cap returned the stones after Tony used them to wipe out Thanos and his forces.

I get it you want to see more Hulk but come on now.

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 5:33 AM

@LordCipher - Dr. Strange willingly gave Thano's the Stone and Thano's destroyed it with second SNAP.

Hulks promise isn't kept until that Stone is in place to stop all the demons taking over the Universe.

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 5:36 AM

@DnA - Cap returned the Stones Stones from the past. BUT that very Stone was destroyed by Thanos with second SNAP so the door to HELL is wide open.

Brave - 5/13/2019, 5:40 AM

@DoubleD - the stone that Bruce promised to return was returned by Steve. The stones that Thanos destroyed don't matter anymore. But what are you implying beyond that? I'm curious

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 5:45 AM

@Brave - Did Thano's destroy all the Infinity Stones with second SNAP ? YES, Past Stone was returned but the current Stone is destroyed by Thanos.

Which means Hulk hasn't kept his promise to the Acient One. Setting up for Dr. Strange 2

DoubleD - 5/13/2019, 6:18 AM

@LordCipher - Tell me where all the Infinity Stones are right now ?

Does Dr. Strange have his Stone back yet ? No Thanos destroyed it with Second SNAP

MexCowboyNation - 5/13/2019, 6:22 AM

@DoubleD - I hope not. I would skip the movie if Hulk is in it.

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Sci-Fi & Fantasy

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