@WakandaManAreU - he never should've been an Avenger in the first place imo. It oddly work in the comics, Hawkeye being the blue collar Avenger, but they really had little to no idea how to use him here. That's on Whedon.

I'm a Hawkeye fan and the character is a good one, tbhe comics tell us that. 

I always had an idea of how you use him in this universe that I thought would've been cool.

Pitch: They haven’t really highlighted the tragic signatures of the character’s back story ( partially deaf, beaten as a kid, treated like a freak, joined the circus, became a villain, etc. Making him a family man was a nice homage to the comics, but a lax attempt at making him relatable. It was very soft. I would've given him more spotlight in Avengers. Mostly every other character had major development with their own solo films, so Clint deserved to get more screentime and backstory. He barely has a backstory.

I would've made use of the Marvel One-Shots and explored his history through them. I would've also included him in TWS, like they initially had the idea too. Give him maybe 10 min of screen time. You can do some things with that. Not only that, but I would've had his tragic past highlighted in AOU when Wanda was mind bending people. Show his young circus life, him being a criminal and being beaten as a kid. Show how he's hearing impaired too. This gives him layers.



It’s Hawkeye’s relative normalcy which makes him so awesome. As Jeremy Renner so eloquently put it in Avengers: Age Of Ultron: “The city is flying, we’re fighting an army of robots, And I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense.” But it's his tragic backstory and hearing loss that gives him pathos and shapes him. It rounds the character.

@WakandaManAreU - I actually like Widow. Mostly only in the hands of The Russos as they understand her very well. Whedon got the ball rolling pretty well with the "Red in her ledger" bit though. Russos really comprehend the very concept of Widow and get ideology.


If we get a Widow solo, I'd let the Russos direct or Markus and McFeely write it. Those guys really get her and portray her well imo. I think her amd Clint can stand up amongst their more enhanced teammate. It's all about highlighting their distinctiveness the riggt way.

@KIDCOM - Nooo! He can't die before we get Hawkeye and Kate Bishop on screen together. But seriouslier, I'm pretty sure EVERYONE is going to die in this movie. EVERYONE.

@marcspector101 - Ronan n Nomad. Slick

@MrFridayNights - I would put movie Storm in that irrelevant box, although she definitely shouldn't be.

I disagree on Hawkeye being irrelevant. Sure, he may no have as much development as the Marvel Icons, but he definitely has got some backstory. That can't really be said for a lot of the X-Men movie mutants.