Should THE AVENGERS Assemble Again In Phase Three?

Should THE AVENGERS Assemble Again In Phase Three? Should THE AVENGERS Assemble Again In Phase Three?

Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe doesn't officially begin until May 3rd's Iron Man 3 but lets analyze how much we know about Marvel's Phase Three. Is there room for Black Panther?

Editorial Opinion
By MarkJulian - Apr 12, 2013 02:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers







At this point, it's no secret how Marvel Studios operates. Their plan is to have a set number of films centered around specific, individual superheroes and then collect said heroes for a team-up adventure in an Avengers film. They organize these plans by phases and when Iron Man 3 premieres on May 3rd, Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will have officially begun. Phase Two ends in 2015 with The Avengers 2 but that same year, Phase Three kicks off with Edgar Wright's Ant-Man. At that time, we'll be 7 years deep into the Marvel Cinematic Universe and it might be time for the film studio to tinker with their formula for stand-alone and team-up films.

Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One


By the time Phase Three starts, expect the current incarnation of the Marvel formula to be practiced by other film studios. Marvel has simply been too fiscally prosperous for other studios like Sony, Fox and Warner Bros. to not follow suit. Starting at the beginning in Phase One of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), we were presented with Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger before Earth's Mightiest Heroes assembled in Joss Whedon's Avengers. In Phase Two of the MCU, Marvel fans are getting Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy before another group outing in The Avengers 2. If you're keeping count, that's 5 stand-alone films in Phase One and 4 stand-alone films in Phase Two. With Ant-Man already securing one of the Phase Three slots and Doctor Strange strongly rumored to have another, how many other films should Marvel include in the third era of the MCU before bringing our heroes together again?

'Phase Three development is very early,' cautioned Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige in a recent interview with international media, however he did mention that fans should expect to see some familiar faces in the third round of films, going so far as to namedrop Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. That's a no-brainer really as these three are the pillars of the Marvel Universe regardless of whether the discussion is about film or comic books. But does Feige's statement indicate that one or more of the trio will receive another solo film in Phase Three? If so, filling out your Phase Three brackets just became a little easier as we have Ant-Man, Dr. Strange and one or more returning Avengers filling the solo film slots. That doesn't leave much (if any) room for characters like Black Panther, Luke Cage, Iron Fist or Ms. Marvel to make solo-film introductions, especially if you're of the mindset that 4 or 5 is the maximum number of solo adventures Marvel should produce before having all the heroes teams-up. For arguments sake, lets theorize that Phase Three shakes down as so:

2015 Ant-Man
20l6 Dr. Strange
2016 Thor 3
2017 Untitled Marvel Film
2017 Captain America 3
2018 The Avengers 3 (or maybe that World War Hulk rumor)

Again, this is just a presumption based on how the film slate breakdown in the previous Marvel phases but it's very likely Phase Three could look something like the schedule above. What could that Untitled Marvel Film turn into - a new Hulk film, Black Panther, or maybe even (at the outside of outside chances) a Heroes for Hire feature film? Regardless, it's practically a guarantee that we'll see some new superheroes debuting in another, more popular hero's film; just as we're seeing Falcon (Anthony Mackie) debut in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. It's been vaguely hinted that the aerial S.H.I.E.L.D. agent will be on the roster when The Avengers 2 graces theater screens in 2015. But would you want the same type of introduction for Black Panther or even Namor? Fans are more accepting of Falcon's introduction because he's always been a sidekick of sorts but a more prominent hero such as Black Panther deserves to have his own feature film to mark his debut, he can't (figuratively speaking) ride on someone else's coattails. There's also a growing contingent of Ms. Marvel fans who feel the same way about Carol Danvers. So what is Marvel to do if they want to keep hardcore fans from becoming jaded and at the same time, keep the average movie-goer entertained? Something radical. And that something radical might just be to put the team-up films on the back shelf for a while. They've become an inevitable eventuality, an expected marker of where one Phase ends and another begins.

Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase Two


From it's inception, Marvel Studios has been all about the surprise, keeping it's hardcore comic book fans buzzing who in turn, infect the casual movie-goer with their excitement. It started with S.H.I.E.L.D. , with Coulson (Clark Gregg) and Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) and now it's Thanos' turn. But the after credits teaser and cross-film S.H.I.E.L.D. pollination is not a surprise anymore, it's expected. When Phase Three rolls around, it will be time for some innovation. Perhaps Ant-Man will herald that change. It was a film that couldn't break into the first two Phases of the MCU but maybe the confirmation of the film's long-awaited release date heralds more than what appears at first-glance? Perhaps it signals a break from tradition and the start of something truly fresh and new. As stated above, when Ant-Man hits theaters, other film studios will be trying their hand at their own cinematic universe based on the current Marvel formula. It's classic Marvel stratagem to try something new just when their competitors are finally catching up and copying a successful idea. Maybe instead of a team-up film, they borrow a page from their comic book counterparts and adapt one of the death storylines? Imagine if Warner Bros. announced they were going to adapt the Death of Superman storyline into a feature film? The clock is already ticking on Chris Evans' Captain America. And lets not forget the huge opportunity represented by the ABC S.H.I.E.L.D. television pilot. If successful, look for more Marvel live-action television shows to spring forth and dominate prime time airwaves like the multitude of NCIS and Law & Order shows. Somewhere, Ron Howard must be shaking his head, thinking about the the studio execs who didn't believe in his plan for Stephen Kings' Dark Tower series which called for linked television and film projects. It might be just a little too soon for this next suggestion, but what if Marvel went back and remade their Phase One films but using the What If...? model where key events turn out much different in a story's traditional telling? A reboot that's not really a reboot! What if Tony (Robert Downey Jr.) doesn't save Pepper (Gwyneth Paltrow) in Iron Man..or Iron Man 2... or Iron Man 3? What if Bucky (Sebastian Stan) never fell off that train in Captain America: The First Avenger? The possibilities are endless and I believe the first studio to move on this idea probably has a gold mine on their hands.

Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase Three


In truth, it's hard to predict exactly what surprises may be in store for us in Phase 3 but it sure is fun to speculate. If you agree with any of the above or even if you vehemently disagree, sound off in the comment section below with your own theories and ideas. And if you're reading Feige, heed my advice, Black Panther needs his own film, not an introduction in another superhero's film!



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starkresilient
starkresilient - 4/12/2013, 2:44 PM
I think they will assemble but it will be a different team. I don't think RDJ would continue. He is done so much for Marvel and Marvel for him. He can do whatever he wants after Iron Man/Avengers financially. Both Chrises are young and can continue. Hawkeye is not important. With new additions a new team will be formed

Marvel can milk their movies since the public loves them
TayDee
TayDee - 4/12/2013, 2:49 PM
As long as there is a 2 - 3 year gap between each one, I'll be fine with it. Changing up the roster every here and there will be fine. Send Hawkeye and Black Widow on a mission themselves, and recruit others to take their place or something like that.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/12/2013, 2:52 PM
of course why wouldn't anyone want more avenger movies,each movie should feature new members & villains.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 4/12/2013, 2:52 PM
I'd love a solid Avengers trilogy but I won't complain if World War Hulk happens.
TayDee
TayDee - 4/12/2013, 2:55 PM
You said phrase twice, its phase. P H A S E
TonyChu
TonyChu - 4/12/2013, 2:57 PM
I just want a damn Black Pantger movie.
TonyChu
TonyChu - 4/12/2013, 2:57 PM
*Panther
Abary
Abary - 4/12/2013, 2:58 PM
Why would they make just two Avengers movies? Why not just make it a trilogy?
TonyChu
TonyChu - 4/12/2013, 2:59 PM
Also they just got the rights to Daredevil, lets see a a proper movie. And don't let him be an Avenger but rather a cameo. He works way better alone or doing a two man team up. Just imagine a Scar Jo/ Black Widow team up.
sansClaymore
sansClaymore - 4/12/2013, 3:04 PM
sooooo your assuming guardians of the galaxy isn't getting a sequel in phase 3?

and that black panther or doc strange wont just be an R rated marvel knights production or animated crossover?

honestly I would rather they do a marvel knights R rated film than cheese down any of the characters.

then again no one has a clue about what the agents of SHIELD tv series is going to be bringing to the table
HeroSupreme
HeroSupreme - 4/12/2013, 3:05 PM
Phase 3 may also leave room for Guardians 2. Inhumans is another one rumored to be in development. Who knows, maybe Marvel will push for 3 movies a year, but either way Avengers 3 sounds like its going to be crowded unless they start killing off heroes.
TayDee
TayDee - 4/12/2013, 3:07 PM
MarkJulian - thanks for what? I was talking about levitikuz regarding the phrase thing.
SageMode
SageMode - 4/12/2013, 3:08 PM
I don't see any legitimate reason as to why they shouldnt have a THE AVENGERS 3 movie.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/12/2013, 3:09 PM
@TayDee Ha. I figured it out. I thought I had a typo.
exe
exe - 4/12/2013, 3:13 PM
Why even bother with Black Panther? Phase 3 should be the most epic, T'Challa is not. Ms. Marvel can go too and the other uninteresting characters.
95
95 - 4/12/2013, 3:15 PM
Good editorial, Mark.
thorhulk77
thorhulk77 - 4/12/2013, 3:18 PM
Yes, more assembly required!
KainAndDisabel
KainAndDisabel - 4/12/2013, 3:19 PM
I say death to Cap and Tony (tho not very likely with RDJs popularity) and maybe hawke and widow:- we are talking phase 3 here, and then that leaves plenty of room on the Main roster, even if only one of them is by the hand of the Hulk is justifies sending him skyward. At the moment I am thinking they have the intention of still keeping the team tight, (just to watch if the new Xmen is excepted by the audience or becomes an over cluttered clusterf**k) I dont think P3 is anywhere near set in stone yet, fortunately for us, marvel do listen to the fans!
exe
exe - 4/12/2013, 3:20 PM
Or just get Andrew Garfield and Hugh Jackman for Avengers 3.
113
113 - 4/12/2013, 3:23 PM
They need to have the Wakanda storyline in one of the first three Avengers.
TheAbomination
TheAbomination - 4/12/2013, 3:28 PM
Disney's too goddamn money hungry to NOT make more team-up films.
EnSabahNur
EnSabahNur - 4/12/2013, 3:31 PM
thebearjew
thebearjew - 4/12/2013, 3:31 PM
the answer is ofcourse! Id love to see the whole avengers team which to me is cap, iron man, hulk, thor, black panther, ant man, wasp

Also where HULKs silhoutte on the phase 3 picture?
thebearjew
thebearjew - 4/12/2013, 3:32 PM
i do think its possible that stark (RDJR) might return for the 3rd avengers
pro346
pro346 - 4/12/2013, 3:34 PM
After seeing the first avengers the novelty factor has worn off.....same old generic storyline.
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