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KWilly
KWilly - 9/10/2019, 3:23 AM
Sue me for saying this, but I think Marvel is getting out of hand with all these TV shows. Like jeez, RELAX.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/10/2019, 3:33 AM
Is Marvel gonna make movies anymore? lol 75% of everything new seems to be TV shows
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 9/10/2019, 5:47 AM
@Nightwing1015 - If it pays of flong term, I'm all for long story telling over TV leaidng up to whatever movie for a character or team on the big screen. Flesh things out on TV, then go balls to the wall on the big screen.

If people aren't prepared to invest on the streaming service or downloaiding the episodes, that's on them.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/10/2019, 12:48 PM
@Nightwing1015 - Well they bought Fox for a reason. It wasn't to get back F4/X-men like what many are preaching. Bob Iger spent over 100 billion dollars buying Fox, Hulu, and an upcoming streaming tech company called Green Planet (or something like that) just for streaming. Iger said Disney would have never purchased Fox if they weren’t planning to join the streaming wars because they need a lot of exclusive content in order to compete with Netflix. Disney has no choice but to go all in. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dark, West Coast, or Young Avengers were all tv shows instead of movies because their investment in streaming was huge.
TRexx21
TRexx21 - 9/10/2019, 1:51 PM
@TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - Right! People up here are acting like just because these shows will be on they HAVE to watch them. Marvel/Disney won't be forcing people to watch any of these shows, it's all subscription based and just like Netflix, if you don't want to watch...don't watch it. People will literally complain about anything, even when they get too much of a good thing.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/10/2019, 3:47 AM
Young avengers Disney plus
New Avengers cinema?
Kumkani
Kumkani - 9/10/2019, 3:55 AM
@OliverGreen - He says that in almost every article he writes though.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 9/10/2019, 4:07 AM
@Nightwing1015 - Are you sure about that?

Movies:

1 Doctor Strange 2
2 Thor 4
3 Shang-Chi
4 Eternals
5 Black Widow
6 Black Panther 2
7 Blade
8 Guardians 3
9 Captain Marvel 2

TV shows:

1 What If
2 Loki
3 WandaVision
4 Hawkeye
5 Falcon & Winter Soldier
6 Moon Knight
7 She Hulk
8 Moon Knight
9 Ms Marvel

Unless I missed anything, that's a 50/50 split and there could definitely be more movies planned considering Ant-Man isn't accounted for, plus the Fantastic Four and X-Men franchises on the way too.

Obviously there are a lot of TV shows coming to promote Disney+ but it's also smart that Marvel does this. Streaming is huge, and if they get it right they can conquer another big part of the market.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/10/2019, 8:50 AM
@Necropolitan - you have Moon Knight on there twice, so unless one of those is replacing something else, it’s not quite a 50/50 split even.

There is at least a question of production resources... that’s a lot of content to be made in a 2-3 year time span. People have assumed that the shows are going to be made with the same commitment/involvement given by Fiege and his team to MCU content before this, but surely that’s not exactly possible. It’ll be a test of Marvel’s talent bench to see if they can make this many different projects at once without a dip in quality.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/10/2019, 4:21 AM
@Necropolitan - Well the last 4 movies you mentioned weren't announced with a title card and probably won't be with us before all these TV shows. But my point is that Marvel is certainly pushing hard to diversify into TV
Radders
Radders - 9/10/2019, 4:25 AM
All this feels a little DCU to me - like everything is potentially in line for TV or film but doesn't actually happen
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/10/2019, 9:39 AM
@Radders - Marvel Studios has been pretty leak-proof for a while. Maybe we're getting scuttlebutt because they're having to explicitly pitch these ideas to Disney's streaming team, and can't keep their cards close to their vest about them.

And, because they're pitches, some of them may not happen, that's true. But so far all of the widely rumored series have been officially announced. And (with only one exception with a lot of behind-the-scenes drama) Marvel Studios hasn't been in the officially-announce-then-cancel business.
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 9/10/2019, 4:43 AM
Can we just assume it's all up for grabs as either a Disney + show or theatrical movie at this point?
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 9/10/2019, 4:51 AM
We know that shows like Falcon and Winter Soldier, WandaVision, Hawkeye and Loki are limited shows right?

Is it the same with shows like She-Hulk, Moonknight, Ms Marvel etc.? Are these limited to one season?
Does anyone know?

It does make sense to introduce characters like Kate Bishop and Wiccan and then gather them in a Young Avengers series. I would have prefered a movie but Disney+ makes sense with movies based on the F4 and the X-Men on the way.
Darriann
Darriann - 9/10/2019, 4:59 AM
I think the best way for them to capitalize on these properties would be to do individual character shows,with a few crossovers and then bring them together for big events in theaters. It would flesh out the characters more and let audience's become more invested in each of them.

Imagine if that is how DC had handled the DCEU like that? We would be getting Crisis on the big screen instead of spread out across so many different shows with the final two episodes not airing over a month after the first three.Plus they would get bigger budgets for the crossovers.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 9/10/2019, 5:58 AM
I mean, yeah.... obviously

But this is a LOT of content. Curious to know if they are looking at Young Avengers lining up with the main team in any way
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 9/10/2019, 6:20 AM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Is there even main team anymore though? Cap, Iron Man and Widow are done. Probably Hawkeye too after his solo series.

Obviously, there're still plenty of Avengers but most of the core are done and the rest having moved to Disney+ (except Thor).
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 9/10/2019, 6:22 AM
@KWilly

Keep in mind that these aren't normal tv shows, so far we have only heard of them being limited series'. So they most likely won't run more than one season, except for the new solo characters like Ms Marvel, She-Hulk, and Moon Knight. Also they all may be transitioned into films at some point.
Franshu
Franshu - 9/10/2019, 7:10 AM
America Chavez? Please NO. Heck, I'm from Latin America and despise the character.

As for Young Avengers? IDK, OK I guess. Moon Knight is pretty much the only show I really care about.

Eli
Eli - 9/10/2019, 7:19 AM
There's no way that the price of this service stays under $7.

ElJefe
ElJefe - 9/10/2019, 7:47 AM
Disney has a ton of properties - it’s interesting that they are mining Marvel this deeply.

I’d like to see them start a new Saturday Morning Cartoons style line-up with their IP - release new 2-hr blocks of cartoons every Saturday with new episodes of Scrooge McDuck, Duck Tales, Rescue Rangers, Gargoyles, etc.
lawndart
lawndart - 9/10/2019, 8:07 AM
Wish they'd flush out the main roster of other Avengers before diving into this. Although we're getting She-Hulk, Hercules (I hope they keep with his Olympian origins) and Black Knight, we haven't explored a number of others yet such as Tigra, Simon Williams, Jocasta, or Photon yet. Would have loved to see the first interactions between Hawkeye and She-Hulk from the books on film.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/10/2019, 8:43 AM
I’m sure that they’re working their way towards a young team, whether the line-up is more Champions, New Warriors, or Young Avengers (most likely a mix of them all), and yeah... putting “Avengers” in the title is the better way to go, certainly.

I do wonder with such a heavy line-up of shows in consideration and/or development if there’s any room for sequel miniseries should one prove to be a huge hit (not sure how you measure that on a new streaming service.)
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/10/2019, 9:03 AM
I think people may be getting a little overly concerned about the streaming output. We're probably talking 3-4 shows a year (at this stage none of them aimed at a multiple-season run). Along with Marvel's 2-3 films, this is the kind of expansion that a lot of people have been saying the studio was capable of. Plus, it solves the real problem Marvel had with expanding: cinema logistics. Theaters can only support a limited number of huge blockbusters. Maybe there's a bit more room with Fox's X-Men gone, but I've been waiting and hoping for Marvel Studios to make the real shift toward a shared multimedia universe.

TV via a subscription model has been capable of medium-budget movie-quality content for a while now. It was time to see if it could stretch to the biggest budgets, too. (And pessimistically, I personally don't know that it can, in which case, this is all an unsustainable gold-rush that will collapse, so we should enjoy it while it lasts.)
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/10/2019, 9:12 AM
Young Avengers Assemble!



Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/10/2019, 9:30 AM
Aw shit, I just realized something: there's a decent chance they may be aiming She-Hulk at a Young Avengers team, too, (to continue the mantle-shifting gimmick). And I've always aimed my fancasting at late-20's to mid-30's for maximum law drama appeal.

Maybe She-Hulk will be on the young side, too. More a paralegal than a confident litigator in her own right. Not sure how I feel about the prospect, but I'm not exactly hating it (but I will miss the lost opportunity of having a Hulkling).

Also, if America Chavez and Jen really are being aimed at shouldering the mantles of Cap and Hulk, it really is shaping up to be a very female-heavy team. Others have mentioned it before, but the "supergirl effect" may be organically moving us toward the heavily-female team movie anyway.

(The Supergirl Effect being the relatively common phenomenon of male heroes having younger distaff counterparts. Sure, there are a handful of younger male counterparts, too, but I think the Effect been fueled by the desire of artists, writers, and fans to express the mostly-repressed-but-hypersexualized elements of superheroes in a heterosexually safe space by putting their costume, or a skimpier variation of it, on a female form. Note the relative dearth of a similar younger-male-counterparts-to-female-characters. They exist, but much less prominently.)
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