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AC1
AC1 - 2/10/2024, 10:39 AM
I still think this would've been too radical a departure for a film adaptation of Batman, especially back when it was first planned, but I really wish Aronofsky would/could team up with DC to turn it into a graphic novel/limited series
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/10/2024, 11:20 AM
@AC1 - After the Joker though, this actually takes way less liberties. Compared to Joker, this movie is quite faithful to the source material.

A lot of it is stuff we've seen in Nolan's Batman (losing all his money die to being declared dead in Batman Begins and due to Bane's Wall Street meddlings in The Dark Knight Rises) and in Reeves' Batman (the subway Batcave, the grittier approach).

Also the realistic weaponry and Selina as a hooker is now considered classic Batman, even if it might have felt disorienting just a few years after Batman & Robin.
AC1
AC1 - 2/10/2024, 12:01 PM
@ObserverIO - true I guess it could also work as an Elseworlds Batman movie but I feel like we've already got more than enough Batman on the big screen over the next few years
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/10/2024, 2:49 PM
@AC1 - Too much. Way too many Batmen right now, lol.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 2/27/2024, 10:26 AM
@ObserverIO - 😬 Silence thy tongue, for thou spaketh blasphemous words!
I declare thee a heretic who should be banished from our land, forthwith...!☮😜
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/27/2024, 11:47 AM
@Deadinside - What I meant was... more Batman. We need more Batman, please, lol.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 2/27/2024, 12:20 PM
@ObserverIO - lol...😉
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 2/10/2024, 10:47 AM
I'd love to see this retro-fitted as a sequel/spin-off to Joker, it feels like it would have fit that world. I'd love to see at least an animated version of the movie.
Thing94
Thing94 - 2/10/2024, 10:51 AM
Thank heavens this didn't happen
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/10/2024, 10:52 AM
I remember thinking Begins was pretty dark when it came out. And while it took liberties with a few elements of Batman’s lore, it was ultimately incredibly faithful to the point where I thought “it’ll never get better than this.” I really can’t imagine going from Batman & Robin to something like this. Not just dark, but pitch black and barely recognizable to the source material. While I’m glad this movie never happened, the idea itself is pretty insane that I’m always intrigued to hear a little more about it, but I’d especially love to know where Aronofsky was in his life at this point. What was going on in his personal life and what was going through his head, for this to be the ultimate Batman story he wanted to tell.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 2/10/2024, 11:29 AM
@DudeGuy - "I’d especially love to know where Aronofsky was in his life at this point. What was going on in his personal life and what was going through his head, for this to be the ultimate Batman story he wanted to tell ?"

Nothing, he just wanted to get a reaction out of people.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/10/2024, 11:59 AM
@Th3Batman - yeah, most likely
Forthas
Forthas - 2/10/2024, 10:59 AM
Christopher Nolan gave us the best and most definitive Batman films story arc and did so without weird changes to the base mythology. As a result I have no interest in any other iterations as none of them come close to Nolan's version.

With the definitive take on Batman in their library Warner Brothers failed to capitalize on it and the carnage, misery and chaos that has plagued the studio is a direct result.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 2/10/2024, 11:48 AM
@Forthas - it’s the definitive version so far. But there’s always something that makes me feel like it could be better. Like the grounded tone mixed with a little more of the fantastical. That’s what I’m waiting for.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/10/2024, 1:22 PM
@JustAWaffle - I actually think that the Christopher Nolan version accomplished all of that. People do not seem to understand everything fantastical that occurred in the Nolan films BECAUSE Nolan was so effective at bringing in the film's audience to the point where they suspended their disbelief. For example, in Batman Begins the fear toxin, microwave emitter, and the Tumbler's jumping capability are ALL fantastical. In the Dark Knight, the sky hook stunt to capture Lau, the sonar equipment, and a man with exposed facial organs cannot happen. Also in the Dark Knight Rises, the leg brace that restored Batman's use of his leg, Bane's strength, and the Bat (wing) ability to evade missiles are again the stuff of fantasy.

In my opinion, the Nolan films are completely underrated despite the high regard that people give it. Another example is the false notion that the Nolan Batman did not use his detective skills and somehow the film "The Batman" was a better representation of Batman as a detective. But when I re-watched The Dark Knight, I counted five instances where Batman used his detective skills versus seven instances in The Batman - not that much difference. Furthermore, when Nolan's Batman applied his detective skills, he used the information to stop the Joker's plans in some if not all of those instances. Whereas, in The Batman, he NEVER stops the Riddler from accomplishing what he intended to do except in one instance - sort of. Yet, the Reeve's film is considered the superior Batman as detective film. it is not!
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/10/2024, 2:15 PM
@Forthas - if he wasn't so dependent on Luscious for his toys.....I'd agree. and he wasn't really a detective. But Pattinson also is a bad detective at least thus far. is argue BB and TDK can be interchanged for best and then The Batman.....but all of them pale in comparison to Mask of the Phantasm. That film is truly definitive.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 2/10/2024, 5:08 PM
@Forthas - I agree with all of that besides the fantastical. It had tech level stuff that went above the current technology we have today, but there was a movie logic that made it feel like the real world.

It’s the grounding of Ras Al Gul (where his long age was left to a legacy than the Lazarus pit), and things like that that I felt was lacking. I’d like to see the likes of Ivy, Freeze, Croc, Clayface etc with that same level of grounding that Nolan brought to the table.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/10/2024, 8:48 PM
@McMurdo - How could he build all of the gadgets he has and still have time to fight crime? That is unrealistic! According to this article...

https://www.eaa.org/eaa/aircraft-building/builderresources/getting-started/planning-articles/getting-started-in-aircraft-building#:~:text=Average%20building%20times%20for%20most,upon%20the%20type%20of%20airplane.

...it takes 800 to 2000 hours to build a kit airplane. So imagine how long it would take to build the Bat (wing). Not to mention the Batmobile, bat pod, his suit. They did show him making his throwing darts and modyfying his suit which is all anyone could ask one person to do and still fight crime and rum a multi billion dollar corporation.

I will re-watch Mask and consider what kind of detective he is and render my verdict at some point. I did not pay attention to it as much as I did the Dark Knight after it was alleged The Batman was the superior Batman detective film. Stay tuned!!!!
Forthas
Forthas - 2/10/2024, 9:06 PM
@JustAWaffle - @JustAWaffle - I love the fact that the extremely supernatural is left up in the air. It is not clear how old Ras Al Ghul is. In the film Ras says that he founded the League, but in another exchange with Batman he states they have been doing their "cleansing" for thousands of years. I think Nolan purposely does not address the question head on and allows people to come to their own conclusion giving reasons to believe both. Someone once asked me how could one ground magic in a comic book film. My response was along the same lines...to make it mysterious and unanswered. The closest film that I can come up with that did it pretty well is the film "Now You See Me" where the audience is never quite sure if the magicians can perform real magic or all of it are elaborate tricks ....and it is never ANSWERED. It is up to the viewer to decide. I would do a Zatana or Dr. Fate film along those lines as opposed to magic wands and sparkles.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/11/2024, 6:37 PM
@Forthas - Batman can build his toys, run a company, and fight crime. But I agree Nolan films top Reeves'.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 2/10/2024, 11:27 AM
A lot of these changes scream "I want to piss people off", so I'm glad it didn't happen. It's one thing to have a unique vision for a film, another to make changes just to get a reaction out of people.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 2/10/2024, 12:18 PM
This sounds utterly awful.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/10/2024, 12:33 PM
For an animated Elseworlds offering I wouldn't have mind this, even though even for comics, Batman becoming a master fighter by reading books just sounds ridiculous.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/10/2024, 2:54 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - That's some Paramount TMNT shit for real.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/10/2024, 4:40 PM
@ObserverIO - Agreed
S8R8M
S8R8M - 2/10/2024, 1:36 PM
I would give it a go. I do like the idea of Bruce losing his fortune.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 2/10/2024, 1:48 PM
What R Rated movie from March 2022 did we get?
Unless I'm blind or supremely oblivious, The Batman was rated PG-13.
Nolanite out
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/10/2024, 2:37 PM
Wow…
Waifuslayer
Waifuslayer - 2/10/2024, 3:58 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - for real... I can't believe this is an article. I remember reading these exact same things on AICN back in the day.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/11/2024, 12:16 AM
@Waifuslayer - I knew I read all this somewhere else a long time ago. Thanks for reminding me where. 👍
Deadinside
Deadinside - 2/27/2024, 10:46 AM
@Waifuslayer - What in the heck ever happened to AICN...?☮🤷‍♂️
Waifuslayer
Waifuslayer - 2/27/2024, 12:15 PM
@Deadinside - Harry got MeToo'd and blacklisted and the main writers jumped ship. The site is a ghost town now. It's still up but it's pathetic.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 2/27/2024, 12:22 PM
@Waifuslayer - Oh man, that's crazy!
Thanks for the update!☮👍
mpk1988
mpk1988 - 2/10/2024, 3:59 PM
Aronofsky - one of the most pretentious farts in Hollywood.. and overrated.

I pity anyone who saw mother
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