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Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 9/25/2017, 11:21 AM
I figured out why I wasn't a fan of letos joker the other day. He reminds me or Marylyn Manson.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:25 AM
@Supercat6376 - I can see it
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/25/2017, 11:23 AM
Mark wasn't going to come out and say "he was a shit Joker" or anything like that. Mark's got too much class and wouldn't disrespect another actor.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:24 AM
@LEVITIKUZ - Right but youd think he would just say nothing, hes also not really afraid to be rude or opinionated
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/25/2017, 11:26 AM
@Ha1frican - He's not afraid to be opinionated depending on the situation.

I want to give an example of when he's been opinionated but I am not 100% sure ComicBookMovie.com is the place to talk about politics.

But I doubt you'd ever see Mark come out and criticize an actor's performance.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:30 AM
@LEVITIKUZ - Right yeah but knowing hes as opinionated as he is on other things i feel that he wouldnt go out of his way to say something positive, he would just keep his mouth shut rather than give somoeone false praise or tear them down
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/25/2017, 11:32 AM
@Ha1frican - True but considering he and Leto are connect by both actors playing the Joker, it makes things a bit more personal so to say.

It's not like he was asked "what did you think of Leto in Dallas Buyers Club". He was asked how he feels a fellow Joker was which is why he responded.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:33 AM
@LEVITIKUZ - thats fair, and he didnt really go into detail about what he liked so it could just be a smokescreen
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:24 AM
Here we go... lol
Highflyer
Highflyer - 9/25/2017, 11:26 AM
Here to read the "He's just being polite.", "We all know what he really thinks." comments.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/25/2017, 11:28 AM
He did not want any beef!
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 9/25/2017, 11:40 AM
@Forthas -

Won't deny. i lol'd pretty hard! :P
Forthas
Forthas - 9/25/2017, 11:47 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Thanks!
StormXmen123
StormXmen123 - 9/25/2017, 11:28 AM
Personally I enjoy Letos Joker. I like the predatory nature he had and the overall visual look (besides the forehead tattoo; there is no rlonger demotion in that).
I don't think there was anyway he could have "won". If he attempted to copy Ledger or Nicholson, then he would have still be condemned.
ConnorHawkeye
ConnorHawkeye - 9/25/2017, 11:28 AM
I think that we didnt get enough to properly judge letos joker, it seems like alot of it was cut, but from what we did see, Letos is basically a younger, hipster version of nicolson's joker who has consoldiated power as a gangster, which tbh, sounds really cool. I feel like while thwre are aspects to him that seem distant from other portrayals of joker, a lot is familiar, he is the Joker, he is insane, he kills people for fun, he embrace order in chaos.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:28 AM
I like Leto's Joker personally, but also feel like I cant make a real decision on it based on what we got in SS. Until I see more screentime and ultimately him interacting with Batman the jury is still out for me but im leaning towards positive. I REALLY hated the look when i first saw it and really all the way up to the release of SS but I found him at the very least extremely captivating and interesting. He needs a better wardrobe (the tats and teeth have grown on me) but otherwise im interested to see more
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 9/25/2017, 11:33 AM
@Ha1frican -

I think he did okay with the role. I just think the antics beforehand overshadowed the role and movie to some degree.

I think the main way that they could have differed this iteration from previous lauded versions was his relationship with Harley.
Had they kept in the abuse and the domestic violence, and shown that the Joker doesn't care about anyone else but himself, it would have cemented his evilness and Harley's eventual redemption.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:35 AM
@SimplyAz - I think a lot more of that was there but hit the cutting room floor, even the Extended cut hes a bit more manipulative and its a little more ambiguous as to what he wants from her
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 9/25/2017, 11:43 AM
@Ha1frican -

That's where the Studio Interference was really clear, and it worked for them to some degree, as I've read on Twitter where some people write they want a relationship like Harley and the Joker.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:50 AM
@SimplyAz - I think there should be a relationship and love there but it should only come from Harley or Joker when he is in need of something like in the original Mad Love story. If Joker has what he wants Harley should always be just something that is around if not an annoyance not a source of obsession or infatuation
Highflyer
Highflyer - 9/25/2017, 11:29 AM
As for Jared Leto's Joker, I can see why people don't like it.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:30 AM
@Highflyer - I can see it but think its a bit much the way some have made a definitive stance on its merits based on like 5 mins of total footage thats heavily edited
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/25/2017, 11:30 AM
I thought Leto's Joker had potential, he was just underwritten and underutilized. There wasn't actually anything wrong with his performance.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/25/2017, 11:32 AM
@RorMachine - i agree
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