THE BATMAN: Matt Reeves And Ben Affleck Rumored To Have Very Different Ideas Where To Take The Movie

Rumours continue to swirl about The Batman and now a new report points to Ben Affleck and director Matt Reeves having very different ideas about how the Caped Crusader's story should continue in the DCEU.

By JoshWilding - Nov 05, 2018 02:11 AM EST

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Revenge of the Fans has been a little hit and miss in the past when it comes to superhero movie rumours but the site has hit the mark on at least a few occasions which makes this new intel on The Batman particularly interesting.

Apparently, Ben Affleck began warming up to the idea of donning the cape and cowl again a few weeks ago and Warner Bros. is still keen on him sticking around as the present day Batman. Matt Reeves, however, still wants to cast a younger actor to take on the role and when the studio suggested that he appear in the movie in bookend sequences, problems arose.

Warner Bros. liked that idea because it means Affleck could return for future team-up movies, while Reeves could tell a story which wouldn't be forced to tie into the likes of Shazam! or Wonder Woman 1984. It could be a true standalone adventure set before we met Bruce Wayne in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Anyway, Reeves basically said no to the idea because he doesn't want his Dark Knight tainted by the past, especially when Batman has received such a mixed response up until now in the DCEU.

As a result, it definitely sounds like The Batman will be a reboot and Affleck's future remains in doubt. Needless to say, this report should be taken with a pinch of salt for now but it certainly leaves us with a lot to think about. What do you guys think? Let us know your thoughts in the usual place.

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Batman Begins

2012 - Shortly after the release of the critically acclaimed Oscar-winning movie Argo, Ben Affleck was named as the frontrunner to take the helm of Justice League. At that time, the movie was being written by Gangster Squad scribe Will Beall but those talks appeared to stall as Warner Bros. instead chose to focus on the release of Man of Steel, a movie actually delayed from 2012 to 2013.

2013 - We knew that Warner Bros. was looking for an actor to play Batman in the untitled Man of Steel sequel but Affleck's casting came literally out of nowhere. The news shocked fans and in the days that followed, it was revealed that 71% of the reactions on Twitter during the hour following this casting announcement were negative. Fans simply didn't want him to play the Dark Knight!

Batfleck Backlash

2013 - The backlash showed no signs of slowing down and after mentioning in an interview that the studio had warned him about there being negativity from fans, Ben Affleck later revealed that he was initially reluctant to take on the role of the Caped Crusader. This was his first admission but NOT the last.

2014 - It was in the May of this year that Warner Bros. revealed the first official image of Affleck as Batman and the response was...mixed. The moody black and white image was a hit in the respect that people loved the Batmobile and costume but the "Sad Batman" meme was born thanks to this shot and the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice title reveal was also met with ridicule.

The Batman

2014 - Completely out of the blue during an investor's meeting (proving that Warner Bros. has a lot to learn from Marvel Studios), a full slate of DC Comics adaptations was revealed. While there was no mention of The Batman at this time, it was mentioned that solo movies for both the Dark Knight and Man of Steel were in the works and rumours about the former quickly started popping up.

2015 - Our first mention of The Batman (as it would become known) came shortly before Comic-Con when Deadline reported that Ben Affleck was writing the movie alongside Geoff Johns and was also being eyed to direct. Excitement was through the roof but with no official announcement at the event - as we expected - this was filed a rumour. Despite that, it was widely claimed that Affleck and Johns were basing the movie on the death of Robin and his return as the Red Hood. Fans loved it!

Dawn Disaster Of Justice

2016 - Ben Affleck admitted before the release of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice that the pressure was on the movie to succeed and, well, it sort of did? The movie had a massive opening weekend but the reviews were abysmal and those box office numbers started plummeting when word of mouth got out there. Fans and critics alike started turning on the DC Films Universe.

That wasn't the worst thing that happened during the movie's release, though. In a UK-based interview which took place AFTER the reviews came out, Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck were asked about the response to Batman v Superman and "Sad Affleck" was born when a YouTuber took that footage of a very depressed looking Ben and played Simon & Garfunkel’s "The Sound of Silence" over it.

The Batman Is Announced But Ben Isn't So Sure

2016 - Kevin Tsujihara officially announced The Batman in April, bringing months of rumours about the project to an apparent end. Alas, it wouldn't be quite that simple, though, as a visit to the set of Justice League saw Ben Affleck make it clear that he wouldn't commit to the project until the script was in place and they simply weren't at that point when the movie was made official.

Later on in the year, Affleck reprised the role of Batman in Suicide Squad, an apparent good sign that he was committed to playing the hero. However, that too was torn apart by fans and critics alike.

Affleck got everyone talking in October when he appeared to confirm that the movie would be called The Batman but he later walked back on those comments and by the time Christmas rolled around, he was quick to point out that he would not be rushed to meet the 2018 release date mentioned by the studio. It was now starting to look like this movie was never going to happen.

2017 - Happy New Year! Or not! Affleck kicked off 2017 by making it clear that there was no script and he would not be pressured into making the movie if he couldn't be sure it would turn out great. He later admitted to being frustrated by the expectations to start work on The Batman, calling it a "pain in the ass" and saying every mention he makes of the movie was turned into "clickbait."

Everything Starts Going Wrong

2017 - After spending January venting his frustrations about the pressures surrounding The Batman but promising he was still working on the movie, it was officially announced that he would no longer direct the movie. Fans were shocked and rumours that he wouldn't play Batman quickly resurfaced.

One month later, it was announced that War for the Planet of the Apes director Matt Reeves would be taking over the project and that he planned on scrapping Affleck and Johns' screenplay. That was disappointing but at least the movie had a pretty damn impressive director so fans took solace in that.

After months of rumours that Affleck was planning on walking away from the role, Reeves attempted to reassure fans by saying he would still play the hero but that changed as we rolled into Comic-Con.

Batman, No More?

2017 - Comic-Con is supposed to be a happy time of year for fans but the day before Warner Bros.' big panel at the event, convincing reports surfaced stating that the studio was looking for ways to gracefully usher Ben Affleck out of the role. He wouldn't comment on those claims but seemingly made it clear that he was committed to the Dark Knight by hyping Justice League up in a big way.

The following month, comments from Casey Affleck once again put his brother's future as Batman in doubt and it created such a stir online that Casey's representatives had to clear things up with a statement claiming he was just joking. Needless to say, pretty much no one was convinced by that.

Justice League Fails To Make Things Right

2017 - November rolled around and fans were hopeful that Justice League would be a hit and Ben Affleck would be convinced to change his mind about walking away from Batman. Unfortunately, the actor now seemed to be far less sure about returning in interviews and stories started popping up that Reeves might set the story away from the DC Films Universe with Jake Gyllenhaal taking over the title role. Despite that, fans remained optimistic that Justice League would set things right.

It didn't. The movie was another critical and commercial bomb for Warner Bros. and while Affleck was praised for his performance, he said the following month that while it had been a blast to return as the Caped Crusader for the superhero ensemble, he would have to evaluate future appearances on "the merit of the material." He also seemed a tad disappointed not to be directing The Batman.

The Beginning Of The End

2017 - What a difference a year makes! With 2017 nearing its end, it was revealed that Warner Bros. was planning to bring Ben Affleck's tenure as Batman to an end by having him appear in Flashpoint but not The Batman. Instead, that would be a standalone story with a new actor in the role.

2018 -As a new year begins, Matt Reeves provides a brief but positive update on The Batman saying he finally has the story worked out but confirms that there's no script in place. As a result, it's pretty obvious that the movie is a long way off and Ben Affleck's involvement remains a mystery.

However, another new report once again claims that The Batman will be fully standalone and that a new actor will be cast in the lead role (most likely Gyllenhaal). It's also said that Affleck's farewell will come in either Flashpoint or even sooner than that in Suicide Squad 2 which starts shooting this year.

That wasn't all, though, as a conflicting story says that the movie WILL be set in the DC Films Universe but Affleck has the option to return if he chooses.

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ODanil - 11/5/2018, 3:01 AM

seriously, at this point who gives a s#it!?

SuperSomething616 - 11/5/2018, 7:30 AM

@ODanil - agreed! Just make the movie already and everyone stop spitting their dummies out! For petes sake...

L0RDbuckethead - 11/5/2018, 7:51 AM

@SuperSomething616

Congratulations, this has triggered the daily reminder of all the shit WB/DC has announced thus far:

Aquaman - 12/21/18
Shazam! - 4/5/19
Joker (Phillips/Phoenix) – 10/4/19
Birds of Prey (Cathy Yan) – 2/7/2020
Wonder Woman 84 - 6/5/20
The Flash (Daley/Goldstein) - Sometime in 2020 (maybe)
Suicide Squad 2 (James Gunn) – Fall/Winter 2020 (maybe Spring 2021)

The Batman (Reeves) - no release date
Supergirl (Oren Uziel) - no release date
Green Lantern Corps. (Goyer/Rhodes) – no release date
Batgirl (Christina Hodson) - no release date
Nightwing (Chris McKay) - no release date
New Gods (Ava DuVernay) - no release date
Black Adam (Adam Sztykiel) - no release date
Gotham City Sirens (Ayer?) - no release date
Harley Quinn / Joker Film (Ficarra/Requa) - no release date
Booster Gold / Blue Beetle Film (Berlanti) - no release date
Blackhawk (Spielberg rumored) - no release date
Deathstroke (Gareth Evans rumored) - no release date
Lobo (Michael Bay rumored) - no release date
Justice League Dark - no release date
Justice League Sequel - no release date
Cyborg - no release date
Man of Steel Sequel - no plans (or release date)

This film (The Batman) is looking less and less likely by the day.

Spock0Clock - 11/5/2018, 3:03 AM

Ben Affleck: "How about Batman eats cheetos and watches Poker Tournaments on ESPN on his couch that looks a lot like my couch? We could even film it at my house!"

Matt Reeves: "..."

CaptainElrond - 11/5/2018, 3:06 AM

@Spock0Clock - Ben Affleck: Batman needs to have heavy shower, a baseball fight where he says "I'm batman" and an enite scene where batman is naked apart from a his mask

Matt Reeves:

Reeds2Much - 11/5/2018, 8:11 AM

@Spock0Clock -

ChangAlang - 11/5/2018, 3:08 AM

If true, it sounds like Matt Reeves may have put his ultimatum on the table.

Spock0Clock - 11/5/2018, 3:09 AM

@ChangAlang - How amazing would it be if WB sided with Affleck and pushed Reeves out after all this time and went back to Affleck directing?

I'm not saying I want it, but I sort of would like to see the chaos it would cause around here.

Inktown03 - 11/5/2018, 3:12 AM

DC having trouble with movie development? Someone post the water is wet meme!

Equivocal - 11/5/2018, 10:04 AM

@Inktown03 -

can we agree that Ben is like kryptonite to superhero movies ??

Daredevil & batman (BvS)

are examples, maybe he just move on onto something he does better:

directing.

bcom - 11/5/2018, 2:53 PM

@Equivocal - Ben is not the issue. It's WB's producing team who can't get their sh*t sorted out and have no idea how to develop their characters.

SisterSunday52 - 11/5/2018, 2:55 PM

@Equivocal - No we can't. His Batman is the most popular since Christian Bale's, and the first film he played Batman in, was only 200 dollars short of making a billion. Not to mention the fact that there are far less that want to see him replaced than to see him continue as the character.

Equivocal - 11/5/2018, 10:35 PM

@SisterSunday52 -

affleck's bats was more popular ?

maybe so

in the meme department
remember those
"sad affleck" "I agree", "martha"

http://www.thestar.com.my/~/media/online/2014/05/14/11/56/daredevil.ashx/?w=620&h=413&crop=1&hash=0BEE095044A36300CB777229E2EFAEEA1FE25451

then yes,
he WAS the most popular since bale's

WarnerBrother - 11/5/2018, 3:13 AM

No way in hell this is a reboot. WB is gonna start using the "present day" Batman in crossover films sooner or later
and it makes no sense to have a new Batman trilogy that is totally its own thing. We already had that with the Nolan
trilogy.

The heads of WB went to Affleck's house a few weeks back supposedly to assess his fitness to resume the Batman role.
Matt Reeves is good, but he doesn't have (or shouldn't in my opinion) the juice to bounce Affleck and take Batman
out of any shared universe Availablity.

If it comes down to a healthy Affleck or Reeves, I think WB goes with Affleck and maybe even gives him back the director's chair for The Batman.

KiranSolus - 11/5/2018, 4:02 AM

@WarnerBrother - the shared universe that wb isnt working. At this point reeves making his movie even if itsnagainst continuity is the best case scenario.

You act like the dceu is some coveted universe that needs to be maintained.

WarnerBrother - 11/5/2018, 12:58 PM

@KiranSolus -

I think it can work and should be maintained. Wonder Woman was the beginning of the turnaround
but we were already stuck with Justice League. WB tried to fix Snyders film and actually ended up making things worse.

But we are getting an Aquaman film that seems like it should be a hit with critics and audiences
like Wonder Woman was.

If Aquaman is a hit. WB is going to make a trilogy of films with that character.
Then we get Shazam. Same thing here. It seems like a crowd pleaser and if it
works will get more entries. We have WW84 and Birds of Prey on the way.

We will likely have Suicide Squad 2 and The Flash and hopefully Batman film
set in the DCEU.

Yes I do think that if the DCEU can be saved it should be saved.

Success in my book isn't all about a Justice League film or the next solo Superman outing.

SimplyAz - 11/5/2018, 3:15 AM

Still love The Town (also enjoyed the Book), and have always been happy with Ben's casting, but maybe he was unsure and the mauling of BVS probably hasn't helped followed by what happened to JL.

I liked the timeline setup for this article.

LadiesmanBumble - 11/5/2018, 3:19 AM

@SimplyAz - IMO, The Town > Argo.

SimplyAz - 11/5/2018, 4:09 AM

@LadiesmanBumble -

I haven't seen Argo as I don't watch many War movies. But I am still surprised by how good The Town was and how well it adapted the book.

LadiesmanBumble - 11/5/2018, 4:33 AM

@SimplyAz - Calling it a “war movie” is a bit of a stretch. It’s more like a espionage/heist film.

SimplyAz - 11/5/2018, 5:18 AM

@LadiesmanBumble -

Cool, I'll check it out, also been meaning to watch Live By Night as well

LadiesmanBumble - 11/5/2018, 5:22 AM

@SimplyAz - Yeah, I’ve been meaning to go see Live By Night. I heard that it’s his weakest movie.

SimplyAz - 11/5/2018, 5:51 AM

@LadiesmanBumble -

I wish that Affleck had adapted The Given Day, the book that came before Live By Night in the series as I thought it was an interesting story and he would have suited the main character a bit more.

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