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Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 12/16/2019, 2:13 AM
What is this obsession with an older Batman? I just don’t get it. Let’s get a Batman in his prime for a bit.
dracula
dracula - 12/16/2019, 2:23 AM
@Twenty23Three - well he did talk about using keaton and eventually bale, so if it were to happen. We would have already seen them in their prime
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 12/16/2019, 2:39 AM
@dracula - yeah I get that but they already went for Bale being run down and battle worn in TDKR and Keatons Batman barely moved any quicker and more freely than an old man would anyway.
CaptaCornflakes
CaptaCornflakes - 12/16/2019, 2:43 AM
@Twenty23Three - Older batman is great. But yeah he mostly works in elseworlds.
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 12/16/2019, 2:27 AM
Bale wouldn't touch it unless C Nolan was involved. Lindelöf is way to big of a risk when it comes to main stream movies.
CaptCoulson
CaptCoulson - 12/16/2019, 3:52 AM
@emeraldtaurus - I have a feeling the things that were more an issue in Prometheus (things I had problems with, anyway) were more from the John Spaits draft than Lindelof. like my biggest stretch was probably all the behavior from Rafe Spall's and Sean Harris' characters, I think that wasn't really much Lindelof
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 12/16/2019, 4:33 AM
@CaptCoulson - I bought and watched the Alien DVD back in 2003. I remember the scene when the crew enter the Space-Jockeys "pilot seat" and Ridley Scott says in the Directors commentary …."I hope to make a film one day about this guy and his people". When Prometheus was announced I nearly lost my mind. How disappointed I was after watching that sci-fi mess! Lindelöf should be shot......and R Scott should be wounded for listening to 'em!
CaptCoulson
CaptCoulson - 12/16/2019, 5:10 AM
@emeraldtaurus - okay, not really sure I get where you're coming from. well and FWIW, I'm not at all like a hardcore Alien devotee or anything, still have never seen Alien3 (particularly funny as Fincher's long been my favorite modern director), saw 4 once and none of those other "vs" films ever at all.
I always liked and was intrigued by what Lindelof had to say in "there's very little compelling or suspenseful in inevitability" when addressing the very notion of prequels, of anything. And that just because Prometheus takes place in the same universe as Alien and previous in the timeline, that does not mean that Alien would be the sequel to Prometheus. He even put it that Prometheus could have two babies, as it were, one grows to be Alien while one grows up to be what's truly a more direct sequel to it (though this was said well before Covenant was starting to get made, much less it being released).
According to some stuff I've seen said by Lindelof, John Spaits as the first writer on the project, his version focused more on what were considered the same major landmarks in the Alien franchise, the fully as they were xenomorphs, chest-bursters, LV426 (or whatever exactly number that original planet was) and so really what would much be the point.
What Lindelof helped write totally did get into focusing more on the Engineers (the 'space jockeys') and what they were about.
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 12/16/2019, 6:39 AM
@CaptCoulson - Or...………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..it was a total mess! simple as that dude.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 12/16/2019, 8:54 AM
@emeraldtaurus - it wasnt not if you paid attention. prometheus and alien covenant are underrated. it was trying to combine aspects of god, religion, and science to create an origin for xenomorphs. then the human sacrifices were supposed to be punished for trying to play god. its a shame that r scott will not get to finish.

damon lindelouff is known to make thought provoking films or shows that have no answers similar to what he did in left overs
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 12/16/2019, 1:19 PM
@mastakilla39 - fair enough dude .......BUT.....theres a thin line between thought provoking and just plain confusing. Lindelof has a habit of towing the line. Prometheus wasn't a disaster...it had its moments . I personally was disappointed at a number of decisions they made. Alien Covenant was shaping up to be awesome ...until they decided that David was the creator of the Xenomorph.....when they been around for thousands of years !!! That REALLY blew it for me man.
MisterTriffid
MisterTriffid - 12/16/2019, 2:36 AM
I guess you would have to make certain change due to the episodic nature of the source material, which works well in the animated adaptation but not so well, I think, in a live action big movie. That said, the original is an incredibly cinematic comic book and like "Sin City", it would probably lift beautiful off the page onto the big screen.

Personally, I am only interested in seeing a faithful adaptation.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/16/2019, 2:40 AM
Although I haven't finished Watchmen yet, I'm sure whatever projects he wants to do next is in safe hands with him
CaptaCornflakes
CaptaCornflakes - 12/16/2019, 2:44 AM
Dark knight rises is bales Dark knight returns
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/16/2019, 3:00 AM
DC should give this guy anything he wants after how [frick]ing good Watchmen was.
Dredd97
Dredd97 - 12/16/2019, 4:18 AM
@tmp3 - Man oh man what a [frick]in finale! I'm still mulling that over. They say the best art is the stuff that sticks with you, and this show has done that in spades every week. Can't wait to re-read the GN and go over the show again lol
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/16/2019, 4:52 AM
@SmokingMan - In an episode filled with revelations, I don't think any hit as hard as realizing that the theatre playing "black Oklahoma" was the same one that young Will was sitting in while his home was being torn apart.
The theme of appropriation runs so deep within this Watchmen's greater thesis, both meta-textually in that DC/Lindelof are appropriating Moore's original work (I re-read the letter he wrote when production started, and he even acknowledges that) and in the actual text/subtext between Vietnam now being an American state (much like Hawaii in the real world) thanks to Manhattan, and the obvious case of what happened to Hooded Justice's legacy. In that regard it's pretty heart-breaking to see the remnants of a tragedy being re-purposed to serve schlocky re-tellings of musicals as forms of "empowerment" as opposed to it being a memoriam. It would be like having a Music Man revival playing at Ground Zero.
Also liked how Ozy's sexuality is still ambiguous (I know Snyder coded him as gay, but I always viewed him as asexual like Kovacs). Also that cut to the credits was so [frick]ing satisfying.
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 12/16/2019, 8:13 AM
@tmp3 - or not since tomorrowland and prometheus were disappointing as hell.

His movies track record is dodgy at best.
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/16/2019, 9:21 AM
@Jeight8 - Aren't you the guy who trolls BMD's comment sections, lmao
CaptCoulson
CaptCoulson - 12/16/2019, 3:42 AM
First of all, he's said this AWHILE ago, and in multiple places. Also this is by no means an exclusive idea, I've heard a ton of people say this basic idea over the last few years (mostly it's the Michael Keaton one, since we're already pretty close to where he'd naturally be as an older Bruce Wayne, but of course not with necessarily needing to stick to the EXACT Batman cannon as established in his two movies)

Which isn't to say I wouldn't be in for him writing that Batman story, I absolutely would. And to be fair, "truly faithful" adaptations are actually somewhat rare in the movie business, that you really only do just wind up making a full motion version of the comic. Film is a different medium than a comic book (or "regular" book, for that matter) so yeah by definition, you'd have to make certain changes.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 12/16/2019, 3:53 AM
Isn’t weird that some people thumb their nose at just adapting a comic book or graphic novel but think it’s perfectly fine to just adapt a novel whether it is Gone with the Wind, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, The Godfather or whatever?
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 12/16/2019, 4:25 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I think it's more the fact that TDKR has been adapted as an animated film already. Also, like it or not, we're at the point where fans expect more from CBMs than just adaptations. Nobody watches a CBM today expecting to see a story adapted page for page.
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/16/2019, 4:53 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - Lindelof's coming from a place of reverence here though; he loves the original comic book too much to adapt it in a straight-forward manner if he was given the task.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/16/2019, 7:50 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - Martin Who?
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 12/16/2019, 9:40 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - Then again, some of the best movies based on books are the ones that take more liberties. Stanley Kubrick' The Shining and Ridley Scott's Blade Runner are masterpieces of their respective genres and better movies than all the Potter movies combined.
KingGrimlock
KingGrimlock - 12/16/2019, 7:04 AM
Might as well. Frank miller seems to have no anger towards his properties making it to the screen, unlike old snake worshipper Moore.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 12/16/2019, 7:14 AM
I'm fine with just the animated movies at this point. Those were perfection.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/16/2019, 7:23 AM
But why.....? I mean I love the comic and the animated film, but the last two Batman movies (Dark Knight Rises and BvS) both drew heavily from Dark Knight Returns in terms of story for Nolan and Visuals for Snyder. Time to move on from that source materials. There's lots of other stuff out there.
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