Why Keeping Christopher Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT Trilogy Semi-Canon COULD Be A Good Thing

Why Keeping Christopher Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT Trilogy Semi-Canon COULD Be A Good Thing

At the risk of beating a dead horse, GliderMan explains why the EVENTS of Nolan's films could actually be beneficial if kept in continuity.

Editorial Opinion
By GliderMan - Nov 22, 2013 02:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman

First, before I dive off into my reasons, let me explain just what I mean by "semi-canon." The folks up at Warner Bros. have already said they're reinventing Batman for the 2015 sequel to Man of Steel. This is exactly what I'd like for them to do.

I understand when different people collectively say the following:
"No! The Batman in Nolan's films couldn't even take on a pack of dogs. How could he stand up against Superman? Not to mention Nolan's trilogy was grounded in realism, with no mention of powers whatsoever."

Having the trilogy semi-canon would take care of all that. What I mean is that the EVENTS of those films still take place. Bruce Wayne was trained by Ra's al Ghul, he came back to Gotham and fought him there, he stopped the Joker and Two-Face, met Catwoman, stopped Bane, and somehow saved Gotham from an atom bomb explosion.

In doing this, those things still have happened, but Batman can still be the badass detective that everybody wants him to be. Allow me to continue.

1). The Open-Ended Nature of TDKR



The night was July 20, 2012. After a quite a few months of not seeing my grandmother, who is like a mother to me, I decided to take her to see The Dark Knight Rises. Batman is her favorite superhero.

We shared some popcorn and enjoyed the movie, and as Robin John Blake inherited the Batcave, I heard my grandmother gasp in glee. Walking out of the theater, she asked me if the next one would have Robin taking over as Batman. "No, grandma." I told her. "They're rebooting it."

She gave me a complete WTF face, and asked me why. "The director says he wants his trilogy to stand alone" I replied, and shook my head sadly.

"Now, that's just ridiculous," she said as we got in the car.

This is pretty much the same reaction I've got every single time I tell someone that they're already rebooting Batman. Just because they're changing the actors doesn't mean they have to do a full-on reboot, especially when they could continue the story so easily.

2). Almost Every Villain Could Be Used Again



With the exception of Two-Face, every villain from the trilogy could easily be used again. Scarecrow and Joker are still alive, Bane was never shown to be dead, and in the comics Ra's al Ghul always finds a way to come back to life. Hell, even Victor Zsasz could be used again if you needed him.

Which leads me to my next point..

3). The Joker



Who could possibly live up to the legendary performance that Heath Ledger gave? He definitely made the film worth watching. Sort of a continuation of my second point, if TDK trilogy is kept semi-canon, it would give the Joker a reason to seek revenge on Batman for keeping him locked up so long. The next Joker that appears on film he should be somewhere between Heath Ledger's version and the one from the comics; it'd give a sense of familiarity while still being original.

4). Three Years?



Call me old-fashioned, but I still think five years was a bit too soon to reboot Raimi's Spider-Man films. I understand the creative force behind it, but as controversial as Spider-Man 3 was, the ending left me wanting more. Just as The Dark Knight Rises did. Three years, and they're ALREADY rebooting? A freshman in high school that saw TDKR in theaters won't even have graduated before seeing a new Batman. I don't know, guys that's a bit much. Little kids won't understand it. Regardless on what your opinion is on the Man of Steel sequel, there's just no need to reboot this soon.

5). Tired, Weary and Seasoned



Ben Affleck's Batman in the MOS sequel is described as "tired, and kind of weary and seasoned." That would definitely describe the Batman having gone through the events of Nolan's three films. I mean, saving Gotham City from an atom bomb would most certainly leave you tired and weary, and he's already seasoned.

Again, thanks for reading, and give me shit in the comment section below!

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GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 11/22/2013, 2:25 PM
why would they reboot in three years??? because its warner bros... they are retarted... I honestly feel bad for DC because they are all my childhood heroes. Honestly I didn't really like marvel except for spider-man until I got a tad older and just enjoyed them more. But WB doesn't have a clue with their DC films.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 11/22/2013, 2:42 PM
I like the idea of having the Nolan trilogy semi-canon. It'd be easy for them to do it, too. They don't have to specifically mention anything in the Nolan films, but just not contradict it blatantly.
Interestein
Interestein - 11/22/2013, 3:04 PM
Affleck's gonna kill it!
Get Dafoe as Joker and I'll be the happiest man alive.
LOOK OUT FOR A GIANT DCCU FANCAST SOON!
Odin
Odin - 11/22/2013, 3:07 PM
Not gonna lie; bad idea. This semi-canon thing usually back fires with CBMs, I mean look at movies like Superman returns, Ghost Rider SOV or Batman Forever.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 11/22/2013, 3:28 PM
No. No, no, no, no, no. Just no. This is just a stupid idea, that fortunately won't happen. I think they've already proved that by mentioning Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins in Arrow.
DeathstrokeTerminator
DeathstrokeTerminator - 11/22/2013, 3:54 PM
dougie is clearly rolling some J's, cause his ass must be high as hell if he enjoys the neutered, kid friendly Disney heroes more than the DC ones.
DeathstrokeTerminator
DeathstrokeTerminator - 11/22/2013, 3:59 PM
@dougie
Why reboot in three years, you ask, because people WANT BATMAN!!! Da [frick] you think?!
thebearjew
thebearjew - 11/22/2013, 10:18 PM
they cant continue the story bcuz that universe's bruce is old and frankly couldn't do much
Luminus
Luminus - 11/23/2013, 12:06 AM
What I want to know is how a tired and wary Batman makes a useful Justice League member? He's only going to get more tired and old as the years go by, so each movie will have a weaker Batman. Does no one think of these things?
relentless1
relentless1 - 11/23/2013, 3:55 AM
Batman could just be tired and weary mentally but Supermans appearance in MOS and meeting in MOS 2 rejuvenates him. Im thinking he will be weary and tired along the lines of that episode of Batman TAS called I am the Night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPLPOXwhJ0
jaysin420
jaysin420 - 11/23/2013, 12:18 PM
I think it's a very cool idea but they won't do it cause it'll be too confusing for some people.
mbooch12
mbooch12 - 11/23/2013, 9:57 PM
Only thing I agree with is... 3 years is way too soon to reboot one of the greatest trilogies financially and critically in recent years. Stupid.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 11/24/2013, 11:11 PM
I would not want the studio or anyone else to ruin The Dark Knight trilogy by continuing on from the third film. The trilogy itself is it's own thing and set in it's own universe. It's perfection in it's own wat.

The Batman reboot is going to be different since Batman will be wearing a different suit and he'd have a Bat Family and a Robin to which he doesnt speak too anymore. I am looking forward to a new Batman.
mook
mook - 11/25/2013, 4:13 AM
Here's how I see it working; http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroSpeculation/news/?a=88659
Forthas
Forthas - 11/25/2013, 5:43 PM
They should not do a semi-cannon continuation of the Nolan Dark Knight films. They should go full tilt. The idea that the films can't fit together because the Nolan films are too realistic is absurdity. The Nolan films featued Batman with a device that controlled bats, another device that could reconstruct shattered bullets so that you could get finger prints from it and the Tumbler jumping from - not one - but several rooftops. How is that realistic? Then there is the nonsensical idea that the Batman from the Nolan film could not fight dogs. If he could not fight dogs how then did he stop the Joker. Maybe because the dogs did not stop him?...That is as dumb as saying Superman can't beat female Kryptonians because Faora was taking it to him. It is stupidity.

The Dark Knight movies were fantastic. A device that slaves everyone's cell phone so that it can be a sonar transmitter/receiver or Bane punching and breaking concrete columns withouth breaking his hands is FANTASTIC!

Then the idea that because the Nolan Batman is human so he could not exist in a world and fight with aliens. Was it not a human that shot Faora with a rocket that left her unconscious in Man of Steel. Did he need Superpowers to do that? Doesn't Nick Fury who has less ability than the Nolan Batman hold his own in a world of Demigods and rage monsters?

It was and is a massive mistake to not use the Nolan Batman going forward irrespective of if Nolan is director or not. Iron Man as he has appeared in now four movies has had three different directors...obviously that led to the movies failure because Jon Favreau did not direct (stated with sarcasm). The loss in continuity and backstory is going to kill the Batman/Superman film since there is no history on Batman that is known as opposed to what is speculated.
fishybashi
fishybashi - 11/25/2013, 6:36 PM
I agree with Forthas, and I am of the minority that this was/is the plan to connect everything. If they were rebooting, they'd choose a young Batman and not seasoned and weary. The very fact that it is only 3 years from TDKR makes me believe the story continues albeit loosely from TDKR. I also believe that WB tried to get Nolan back on board and when he didn't, they didn't bother with getting Bale back. But I am sure it was highly considered. Nolan's hesitance most likely was the biggest issue ... Or was it? I am of the opinion that WB is not as stupid as we make them out to be, and Nolan, master of surprise and intrigue, maybe actually orchestrating one massive surprise of connecting the WB properties together -- including the gritty Arrow.
fishybashi
fishybashi - 11/25/2013, 6:44 PM
To add -- do all of you think it not highly coincidental that the Arrow show chose the influence of the League of Assasins as integral to establishing Ollie's motivation as a hero and savior of Starling City? This penultimately ties him to Bruce Wayne somehow. The producers are definitely trying to hone into the audience how important to cannon the LOA is. Ras is currently what ties the Arrow show to Nolan's Trilogy, even if loosely. Ras has been referenced but uncertain if alive. If indeed alive, Arrow could be years before events in Batman Begins or concurrent to it.
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