BLACK ADAM Star Dwayne Johnson Responds To DCU Reset Report: "It's All Noise"

BLACK ADAM Star Dwayne Johnson Responds To DCU Reset Report: "It's All Noise" BLACK ADAM Star Dwayne Johnson Responds To DCU Reset Report: "It's All Noise"

Black Adam star Dwayne Johnson has now responded to last night's massive DCU reset report, and it sounds like the actor is still confident that the Man in Black will return down the line...

By MarkCassidy - Dec 08, 2022 07:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Black Adam

Last night, THR published a report on DC Studios co-heads James Gunn and Peter Safran's plans for the DCU, and it left us with a lot to unpack.

Though the trade did stress that things are still very much "in flux," it sounds like a full reset and restructure of the franchise is coming - and that might just mean bidding farewell to the likes of Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Jason Momoa (Aquaman), and even the recently reinstated Henry Cavill (Superman).

Despite a conflicting report from Deadline hitting around the same time, Black Adam is believed to be another casualty of this shakeup, with tentative plans for a sequel and at least one spin-off now said to be dead in the water.

However, star Dwayne Johnson remains adamant that his movie will turn a profit, and still appears to be confident that Black Adam will launch a new franchise.

While responding to a fan's Tweet, the actor seemingly referred to THR's breakdown as "just noise."

THR did also note that Johnson's "playing up of a returning Cavill and his own involvement with DC may not be endearing him to the new management."

While you might view this as little more than posturing, it's important to keep in mind that nothing is set in stone. Gunn - who has been uncharacteristically silent on social media since the report - recently made it clear that only he and Safran know what is really going on behind-the-scenes.

An official announcement may be imminent, but for now, we'll just have to wait and see what comes of next week's meeting between the studios heads and Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav.

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 7:38 AM
He’s like

bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/8/2022, 8:23 AM
@PlusUltra - I expect some announcement coming soon, just like they dogged Gadot merely hours after her comments lol
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 12/8/2022, 1:53 PM
@PlusUltra, @bobevanz -

Apologies for hijacking the top comment, but this needs to be seen by anyone interested. Gunn's response on Twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1600920132691189760

"So. As for the story yesterday in the Hollywood Reporter, some of it is true, some of it is half-true, some of it is not true, & some of it we haven’t decided yet whether it’s true or not."
8:27 PM · Dec 8, 2022

Leave it to Gunn to lay the law down. His definitive post will clear things out, eventually. But until then, this remains far from a good look for those who were rooting for these movies.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/8/2022, 1:59 PM
@DrReedRichards - This doesn’t say anything.
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 12/8/2022, 2:10 PM
@ScaryTerry - saying some of it isn’t true is a statement. Hes not gonna go point by point, esp when, as he said, even they havent decided on some things yet.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 12/8/2022, 2:18 PM
@ScaryTerry -

I give greater focus to his admittance that some of what was reported is actually true. Keeping what isn't true vague is more or less a subtle acknowledgement that most of it is true, and mentioning that some of it is undecided is also open to being later confirmed as true as well.

All in all, I'm interpreting this as admitting that most, if not all, of what was reported is true. If it wasn't, he would have casually dismissive of it all, just as he is with all those idiots who call themselves scoopers.

Gunn's word has weight. He k ows it. He's smart enough to remain vague instead of outright lying about it.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/8/2022, 2:28 PM
@ReverseFlasher -
@DrReedRichards -

Yea. True. Maybe I’m just frustrated how mismanaged these properties are. It wouldn’t be logical to be anything else but vague at this juncture. I just hope Gunn pulls it off.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 7:39 AM
He’s actually getting roasted on Twitter, comparing Black Adam to Cap 1, embarrassing himself like one of those Snyder fanatics of old.
Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 12/8/2022, 7:40 AM
@PlusUltra - I love the rock but sometimes you jsit have to take the L
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/8/2022, 2:00 PM
@PlusUltra - I liked it. I think Dr Fate and Hawkman stole the show, but TFA this is not. He needs to take a break.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 7:43 AM
Don't usually agree with Rock, but nothing is confirmed until we hear it from Gunn or see in the movies/shows first.

Whilst i imagine there'll be a big change after Flash and Possibly Aquaman 2, i don't see them wiping the board totally clean.

Gunn is normally quite active at responding to tweets etc, so i won't imagine we have to wait long until he de bunks some stuff.

THR is usually a good source, but it never said anything is outright cancelled.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 7:46 AM
@UniqNo - But I think, at this point, it’s just common sense. If Gunn’s been hired to essentially do what every other person in his position has been trying to do for the last decade, which is, try to fix what is irrevocably broken, then it’s pointless. All that Snyder stink needs to be cleaned up, and the only way to do it is to click that reset button. On top of that, Black Adam’s a flop, and not any type of movie that warrants a sequel on any level, and if we’re being completely honest, was probably the straw that broke this incredibly frail camels back.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 7:55 AM
@PlusUltra - I mean anything is possible.

But he hardly wiped the board clean himself when he did TSS. He re used the same actors in the same roles, just Gunn'd them up a bit. which mostly worked.

I agree the tone needs to shift from Snyder's darkness but i think he'll also try and keep what worked well and incorporate something new and fresh which is why he was hired like you said. I mean bringing in Flash and Aquaman to Peacemaker was his idea.
I really can't imagine it would have taken only a couple months to plan the whole new slate. The guy only started last month (officially)

I honestly think we won't hear anything about what's coming until Flash comes out or Comic Con. That would be my bet.

Black Adam failed to strike a chord, agreed, but I am 90% sure we're going to see him again.

If WW3 or MoS 2 doesn't happen, I can at least see them doing an ensemble movie(s) with the JL heading into that reset (crisis) where then at least we get that clean slate.
Origame
Origame - 12/8/2022, 7:56 AM
@PlusUltra - considering he was almost definitely hired due to his work on the suicide squad and peacemaker, which added an effective reboot while still remaining in the established universe, there's plenty to hint at that being the case as to why he was hired.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 8:01 AM
@UniqNo - But he wasn’t running the show back then. He was just making a movie, and even then, he wiped the board fairly clean. He kept 3 characters, two which were beloved, and the other who was unproblematic. Killed the rest or never had them return, and never even referenced the previous movies. Honestly, he got rid as much as he possibly could without hesitation.

But now, he can get rid of it all, and he’s been forced to. 10 years on, we’re still talking about a sequel to a bad Superman movie that’s never gonna happen, and the people in charge before him keep putting that same Superman in end credit scenes. There’s no overarching universe plot going on. There just releasing movies, most of which range from bad to mediocre, except the movies that aren’t connected to the DCEU or whatever they wanna call it. It just makes total sense to scrap the entirety of it, because what little worked didn’t work well enough to justify keeping it around.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 8:12 AM
@PlusUltra – No he wasn’t running the show, but he was given full creative control of that movie. He didn’t need to reference the previous movie, the characters and actors were the same, he essentially rebooted it softly, which he can still do if he wants.
I guess you're entitled to your opinion but whilst Snyder's movies were divisive it certainly had it's fans. MoS was not as bad as you say, I think it was quite solid aside from the Jon Kent death and destruction of Metropolis (IMO) and I reckon it still deserves a proper sequel with a better writer and director.
If their plan is to reset the DCU it would be a hugely wasted opportunity to not use the already established characters and cast to take part in that Crisis adaption, allowing them to honour what came before, whilst moving on to their fresh start.

These guys are new in the role and while they’ve both earned it, I think it would be huge risk to confirm that plan, even if that’s the way their thinking. Some will welcome it but I’m sure there will be those who will disagree with it, even on the business side. Let’s see what happens…
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 8:20 AM
@UniqNo - But that’s the issue, they’re aren’t enough fans to justify wasting more time, resources and further damaging the IP by using poor versions of these characters that didn’t resonate with the general audience. A Crisis movie with this bunch is a waste of time. Cut your loses, and if, in the future, there’s a Crisis movie with actual beloved versions of these characters, you can bring some of the back Andrew Garfield style and then give them their farewell. But it hasn’t been earned, and there’s nothing really good there to honour.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 8:24 AM
@PlusUltra - I hear you, but for me at least i wouldn't mind seeing it as they're already there. Let's see how it goes though, Gunn's creative control for the most part works, so i'll be watching regardless.

I wonder what you're thoughts will be if he debunks this report though?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 8:34 AM
@UniqNo - Disappointed, that’s how I’d feel. But I’d still have whatever brilliant stuff Reeve’s is doing with The Batman, and that Joker musical. As a DC fan, I’m in the same position I was in 15 years ago, relying on Batman for my cinematic DC fix, because I refuse to indulge in this abusive relationship between WB and DC. But if this news pans out, I can start feeling positive about DC’s future again.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 8:52 AM
@PlusUltra - Imagine this...

Shazam 2, Flash and Aquaman 2 are all a roaring success (or 2 out of the 3, also let's not forget Blue Beetle). You really think they aren't going to tap into the follow up potential to make more money? (putting Ezra aside)

I just think all in all, it will be to early to jump to conclusion on the direction they're going.

Things are for sure changing, but i highly doubt we're getting a complete reset so soon.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/8/2022, 9:27 AM
@UniqNo - It bombed, and it was trash.
Zero reason to make a sequel.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 9:30 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - I'm feel we'll see Rock's Black Adam again, i'm less inclined to beleive it will be in his own movie.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/8/2022, 9:31 AM
@UniqNo - He should be the villain in a potential Shazam 3, but this man's ego...that wont happen.
UniqNo
UniqNo - 12/8/2022, 9:34 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - well if his next few movies continue his downward trend he may reconsider his stance. Let's see.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/8/2022, 10:56 AM
@PlusUltra - You're right. I mean, as a director Gunn was allowed to do whatever he wanted with TSS. He was just picking up a cheque and being allowed to play, creatively, in order to earn it.

He didn't have the responsibility of being a producer, he didn't have to think about the franchise. Even if he did decide to reboot the universe he wouldn't have started with a Suicide Squad movie, because then you can't use anybody with superpowers without going into their origins properly and setting them up and that would have limited the amount of fun he was able to have on the movie.

So he didn't think about any of that because it wasn't his job to. His job was to make a good movie and have fun doing it. And he did that within the already broken universe, because that allowed him to not have to worry about introducing all the characters and elements of that universe.

A producer of a major franchise like this has majorly differing concerns than a director who is hired to play in the sandbox.

The director just wants to play and get paid.
The producer's gotta think about shit.
ScaryTerry
ScaryTerry - 12/8/2022, 2:10 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - He’s not in a position to make demands. He can either do it or quit.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/8/2022, 2:11 PM
@ScaryTerry - Yup, and he will probably do the latter.
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/8/2022, 7:44 AM
dc got four movies coming out in 2023, two of them with massive $200m+ budgets, which are now all redundant since they end with set-up for a future that's never gonna happen. and we're probably not getting a superman movie for another 5/6 years at this point. what an insane mismanagement of ip.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 7:53 AM
@tmp3 - We’ll get a Superman movie before that. Don’t forget, Marvel cast a new Spider-Man a year after TASM 2, he made his debut a year later in 2016, and dropped a solo a year after that. Now the Spider-Man franchise is bigger than ever, and that’s the success story Gunn and WB need to pay attention to. WB even did it Batman. Got rid of Affleck, got Pattinson in, and boom. Only reason that movie took longer to come out was covid.
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/8/2022, 7:57 AM
@PlusUltra - they're not gonna start developing their new projects until they finish out the old slate, and it takes 3-4 years to develop a movie on this scale so I wouldn't be surprised if it took even longer than my estimate lol. marvel movies work on a much faster timeline than other big budget films because they already have a pipeline in place and shots pre-viz'd before a director's even hired, or the script is done - which isn't common. i mean, the suicide squad took 3 years to come out after gunn was announced and we don't know when/if he's gonna announce his superman plans.
also, it worked for spider-man & batman because they're the two biggest superheroes of all time - are audiences really gonna be in the mood for another dc cinematic universe? especially after the last one imploded?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 8:05 AM
@tmp3 - If it’s good, you’re damn right they will. You’ve got to remember, most of these movies didn’t do that well, and a lot of this audience haven’t bothered with them. They’re fairly easy to forget, especially when there’s something better to replace it with. The last DC movie that made any type of impact was release 4 years ago. The universe has been done, and since then the only DC movie that have gained any type of following are the two movies not connected; Joker and Batman.
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/8/2022, 8:28 AM
@PlusUltra - yeah, but bumblebee was good and that didn't light up the box office after the bay films, and i can't see rise of beasts being a very big hit either. sometimes franchises get tarnished, and starting a whole universe again from scratch so soon feels like more of the usual wb/dc antics.
as long as they leave reeves alone i'm fine i guess. the batman, penguin & joker 2 are the only interesting upcoming confirmed dc projects anyways lol
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 12/8/2022, 8:35 AM
@tmp3 - “as long as they leave reeves alone i'm fine i guess. the batman, penguin & joker 2 are the only interesting upcoming confirmed dc projects anyways lol”

I am with you on that 110%. Literally just said the same thing above.
Origame
Origame - 12/8/2022, 10:06 AM
@PlusUltra - you really can't compare Spiderman in the mcu to the current state of wb. Civil War was already written to include Spiderman before they knew for certain they could use him. Meaning that rebooted version just needed the casting (which they didn't even need to wait on since they were mostly doing fight scenes and had most of the filming done before Holland was cast). On top of that the partnership with Sony meant the resources of a completely different studio let them get a movie out while marvel studios had more of a focus of their overall plan.

This is a situation of wb on their own starting from scratch. Assuming it's true, it'll be comparable to Sony rebooting Spiderman from maguire to garfield, which was 5 years.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/8/2022, 11:06 AM
@tmp3 - Nothing is confirmed.

Also, if the first project that Gunn and Safran announce is a Christopher McQuarrie-directed Green Lantern movie starring Tom Cruise as Hal Jordan to debut in the summer of 2024, I know you are gonna be first in line.

I'll be second in line.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 12/8/2022, 11:07 AM
@tmp3 - Which is a shame because the pipeline for Gunn's upcoming slate will take some time to come out. As stated Marvel had this blue print mapped out for years and it's yielded them a great profit. WB/DC needs to build up the brand again and gain the trust of their audience which we know will take sometime. And it's sad because outside of Batman and the Joker, DC's bread and butter, I feel like the audience might have a hard time loving the other characters outside of the die hard fans.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 12/8/2022, 7:50 AM
He better hope THR is somehow wrong. He thinks he’s getting COOKED now…
KWilly
KWilly - 12/8/2022, 7:52 AM
Ngl, kinda feel bad for Dwayne. Dude was so excited about Black Adam... And it fails. Or at least, doesn't do nearly as well as WB planned.

He brings back Cavill, only for now Gunn to possibly reject that too.

You'll always have Krypto, Dwayne.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/8/2022, 7:54 AM
It’s done. Bury it, let’s finally get some cohesive DC movies
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