@Humperdink - 1.) Not letting filmmakers do their own thing is precisely why DC Films is in the sorry state it's in. While "Man of Steel" and "Batman v Superman" deserved to make far more than they did, they still made a profit, and there are no more devoted fans than those of Snyder's DC Films. However, the most hated DC Films, even among DC Films fans, ("Trailer Park's "Suicide Squad" and Frankenstein's monster "Justice League" are those where the creator wasn't allowed to do their own thing. Forcing directors to adhere to a specific story, regardless of the character, leads to ultimately generic storytelling. Comic books aren't written that way, and Comic Book Movies shouldn't be either.


2.) The world loves Superman BECAUSE of what came before. After he made amends and was forgiven for the Black Zero event (they don't build a statue to someone who is partially responsible for the destruction of the midtown of a city otherwise, even if that person saved the world) he was loved for two years.

Then Superman failed to save, and was accused of killing, at least 20 people in Nairomi and the world turned against him. They said he had no right to use his abilities to help others and that his existence was doing more harm than good, but when he gave his life to save the world, doing precisely what they condemned him for, and when he was cleared of the murder of all those people, they loved him again.


That being said, not really even acknowledging why Superman is loved, and missed in "Justice League", was indeed a huge problem. The hero can't be who he is without looking back on how he got there. That's why his characterization was off in "Justice League".


Finally, we have three good DC Films ("Man of Steel", "Batman v Superman" and "Wonder Woman") but I would like far more. I agree with everything else you said though. Don't send a film into production until everyone is ready, and don't try to carbon copy Marvel, except for the films that have borrowed from DC (like "Spider-Man: Homecoming" and "Black Panther").

@SisterSunday52 - "While "Man of Steel" and "Batman v Superman" deserved to make far more than they did, they still made a profit"

...ACTUALLY not quite sure on this. BvS budget was $250. Turned 330 US of which it gets back $165. Turned $543 foreign of which it gets $179. Total made $344... if it was only the budget of $250 this had to go against then it would have made a profit of $94 million... but this does not include the advertising costs which likely exceeded $94 million... and so therefore made no profit unless DVD sales etc... made up for the rest. It might have broken even, it might have lost overall, hard to tell. But from the #s we have, it is at a loss. That may be why DC pulled Snyder from JL and not some other reason. He was well into it by the time the #s came in so they had no choice but to throw in someone with a better profit record in hopes of salvaging it. Unfortunately their meddling still led to an inferior product.

@BloodyBed - me to

@Roodi - I definitely think they're moving the release date. I mean it'll be dumb for them not to.

@Oskir - That would put it too close to Fantastic Beasts. If they move it, it will most likely be in 2019.

@Pantherpool -
No matter where you move a film it's going to go up against something.
Frankly, I think people are overestimating the popularity of Mary Poppins.
I just don't think Millennials and Gen Z care about old school Nanny McPhee.

@Battabing - for some reason I can't explain, these seem to keep on doing really well and I just don't get it.

@Battabing - Do we count pirates on these slates? Cause I'm specifically talking about these remakes. Also didn't Alice 1 do well?

All I know about christopher robin is that my friends and I are kinda weirded out by the look

@Battabing - you've got me there, sir / madam / whatever you identify as

@RasAlGhul - Oh, it'll kill something, alright.