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Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/2/2019, 2:19 AM
Hopefully it's an emotional and political story about the consequences of T'Challa revealing Wakanda's technological advancements to the world and not some generic fantasy kingdom vs kingdom war like some people want it.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/2/2019, 2:21 AM
He’s got time.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/2/2019, 2:25 AM
I want to see T'Challa face off Namor, but not in this movie.
I don't want Ororo either.

Just deal with that post-Endgame stuff.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/2/2019, 2:27 AM
@Doomsday8888 -
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/2/2019, 2:44 AM
@Necropolitan
I'm really curious to see how Coogler will handle that.
I trust him, eventhough i wasn't the biggest fan of his first movie.

Thing is, this whole Endgame stuff, it's really cool and even useful if you don't know what to do with certain characters, cause it allows you to take the story in so many different directions.
Take Hulk for example or even Ant-Man and his daughter.
Now they can actually do something interesting with these characters thanks to that 5 year gap.

But Black Panther? Just look how the first movie ended, Coogler didn't really need any type of help in crafting his story, it's more of a case of...you know, ADJUSTING his story according to everything else.
Cause at the end of the day, eventhough Black Panther felt really standalone-ish (something i LOVED about that movie) it IS set in the MCU, a shared universe, and one can't just ignore something like Endgame.

I mean...of course you can, i reckon that's what we're gonna get with Black Widow, you just need to make a prequel, but it's hella easier with Natasha.
But T'Challa? Yeeeah, not so much. :/
His story goes from BP to Infinity War and then straight outta Endgame.
And Shuri, Wankanda, is all there somewhere, we have those 5 years, shit happened.
Coogler is smart and i'm sure he'll find a way to take this new premise not planned by him and turn it into his advantage and hopefully he'll do a better job than...whatever the f*ck they did in Far From Home.
Watts really wasted all the potential of that post-Endgame premise imho.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/2/2019, 2:52 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Honestly until a writer and director prove otherwise, I still firmly believe the five year gap in Endgame only benefitted Tony and no one else. For five years:

- Natasha couldn't find Clint (she should know his every move) until it was convenient to find him in Japan
- Scott and the van were abandoned until a rat got him out
- No one had gone to check on Thor on New Asgard
- T'Challa and Shuri both died and nothing seemed to happen to Wakanda

I feel like five years was just too much. I get they wanted to give Tony a daughter old enough to be able to speak and emote a little while still keeping her young and adorable but no one else benefits from that. Even Carol (a woman who embraced her humanity in her own film), left Earth again for another five years and only returned at the very end when it was convenient.

Two years would have been enough.
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 10/2/2019, 3:04 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Bad lukc for you. A lot of insiders have said Namor is in this.
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 10/2/2019, 3:07 AM
@Necropolitan - Clint is a trained spy and he can go off the radar if he wants to.

We dont know if Thor was like that for the entirety of 5 years. He could have gotten far in the last two years or such.

We also not know if anything happened in Wakanda. We know Okoye was in charge. This will be touched in the sequel.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 10/2/2019, 3:08 AM
@Necropolitan -
The time skip was lazy story writing to reset the characters so they did not have to acknowledge the events of prior movies. A lot of characters do a massive personality switch and while some of that can be explained away by the experiences - the majority of it is only explained by speculation on what occured during the time skip.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/2/2019, 3:14 AM
@Necropolitan
Yeah, you make valid points of course, can't really disagree with any of that, but the way i see it, we kinda have to...erm...consider that time gap as a "plot convenience" in order to move forward.
As in, just forget what happened in those 5 years, it's mostly pointless, but the consequences on the other hand? Well...
Now that the heroes are back, shit could be interesting.
But like you said, it's up to them.
If they are not smart enough to properly take advantage of this new status quo, then this whole thing was -quite literally- a waste of time. :P

Coogler set the stage for a different type of story in BP 1, but now he could be forced to talk about a storyline that deals with a "Kingdom without the King" you know? and that's not what he was aiming for at the end of his first movie.
Not saying this new plotline is not interesting, but...yeah, wasted potential.

Just like with Thor i'm afraid.

And i shit you not, this is why i'm glad the X-Men weren't part of the MCU when all this happened.
Cause stuff like this completely changes the game...for everyone!
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/2/2019, 3:16 AM
@Jeight8
Ehhh, like i said, that's something i want to see.
I just...rather not see it right now, THIS soon, when they have all kinds of stories to tell, what with how BP 1 ended and post-Endgame.
Playing with Namor already seems like rushing thingsa lil bit, but who am i to talk...
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 10/2/2019, 5:24 AM
@Doomsday8888 - I like T'Challa, but Ororo is too good for him.

...She's too good for everybody. Forge is the only one who gets close because he knows he's only good enough to kiss her feet.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/2/2019, 5:31 AM
@Spock0Clock
Indeed! :P
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 10/2/2019, 2:30 AM
I heard Wakanda's taking refugees now...


I wonder what that'll lead to.






MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 10/2/2019, 2:32 AM
Achebe is coming.



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