@Superheromoviefan -

I still argue The Dark World is the most

@PicolasCage

Imo, Eternals was a hodgepodge of interesting stories that didn’t gel together well. The leads were pretty dull and not as charismatic as your typical Marvel lead. The documentary aspect was very weird and I’d be curious to see if that was an idea from Zhao or Marvel to add some levity.

It was a very weird experience. And that 1945 Flashback was probably the most tone deaf scene in a superhero movie since MOS’ attack on Metropolis.

I really, really wanted to like it. And I’m not a fan of Iron Man 2 or Black Widow, or even Thor 2 but I’d probably rewatch those over Eternals.

I respect Zhao and Marvel for trying something a little different and mixing it up, but it didn’t work for me.

@BabyBaboons -



FFH is an atrocity of movie.

@PicolasCage - Just coming from the Eternals, I totally agree that it doesn't deserve the Rotten score. I enjoyed that it focused more on the drama, lore and discussions of ethics over being another straight up action film.

Although I personally would rank Captain Marvel around Dr Strange, Thor and The First Avenger. Sort of Marvel's above average but not amazing flicks. (I tend to have tiers of mediocre, above average, amazing, cream of the crop). Eternals kind of sits at that above average mark for me as well, not quite at the point of amazing, which is where I group Civil War, Iron Man 1, Guardians 1 etc. But nowhere near the bottom like the critics are making out.

@regularmovieguy
I thought the documentary stuff fit in well with Kingo's ego. It also helped justify Kuran's existence during action sequences etc. Having Kuran around also allowed there to be a human presence during their discussions of letting the emergence happen.

I would say that Sersei and Ikaris were not as witty and full of quips as your typical Marvel hero, but I felt there was definite charisma. They had a strong presence when on screen, it was just a different kind of charisma to what we are used to from Marvel.

The Hiroshima scene is controversial, I think a lot of it was taken out of context on Reddit (surprise). Where people rampaged about how Marvel's gay black hero dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. Which is absolute baloney. Phastos is mournful that he aided people with technology and then they reached a point where they turned to destroying themselves in massive scale. And then people say because Phastos is involved it robbed people of being responsible for their own actions. But does it? Why would Phastos give them a weapon? He didn't tell them to drop a bomb. That's not in his nature. It was still humanity's decision to create a bomb and drop it on a city. I'll quote one of the Eternals writers to finish up: "As somebody who is Japanese-American and has family in Japan, this is a big part of my life and my history. You don’t want to avoid human tragedy. We want to make people think and talk about it so these things don’t happen again. It’s not cheapening tragedies. It’s about forcing audiences of all ages, races, and places to reckon with the things we’ve done."

@Jackraow21 - that Shang chi though,

@Jackraow21 - I watched Shang-Chi yesterday, and I agree it's pretty solid. Some exposition is delivered too easily, but aside from that it's a really fun movie.