Tension between the hero and the villain...how good will it be in TDKR?

Tension between the hero and the villain...how good will it be in TDKR?

I believe that good tension between the villain and the good guy is vital in developing a solid superhero flick. Hit the jump to read more.

Editorial Opinion
By sonofsamadams - Apr 23, 2012 06:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

We're all curious here; with the gargantuan hype for The Dark Knight Rises around, the thing I get chills over is how Bane will meet his end. When the Dark Knight came out four years ago, the thing I was not hyped the most for was Ledger's performance. What I wanted to see was the tension between Batman and Joker. And that exceeded my expectations by a long shot. The Joker hurts you emotionally, and Batman felt the pain. In the third and FINAL Batman flick, Batman will feel a different, more brutal kind of pain.

In order to do a successful Superhero movie, you have to create great tension between the villain and the hero. What does that mean? Well the villain has to not be a generic one where he has a plan to take over the city/world/universe etc, and fight the good guy. A good villain needs to hurt the hero emotionally and psychically. Take the first Iron Man for instance,


even though you kinda saw the guy behind the whole thing, Tony Stark was still emotionally struck by the fact that his dad's best friend was the villain the whole time. Obadiah wanted Tony out, and what made him a damn good villain was that he got to Tony emotionally, and physically. Yes, he got too overconfident in the end and thus died because of his incompetence. But you really felt the tension between the two of them for that short amount of time on screen.

With the first Batman movie,(and no I'm not talking about that campy 1966 piece of shit) screened in 1989, it was a film where the more you look at it, the tension is kind of weak. Granted I thought Jack did a nice job portraying his character, but I didn't feel like the Joker really wanted Batman out of the way.

It wasn't Jack's fault, it was the screen writers. It was more of Joker's movie than Batman's. The love triangle (if you can call it that) was unnecessary. The story would have moved along just fine if it didn't have the Joker drooling over Vicke Vale. Overall, Batman was just a solid movie, nothing special. The movie wasn't a total failure, but the tension between Batman and the Joker was weak and because of that, some of the thrill was lost.


I can honestly say that Nolan is a man who can get the tension between the hero and the villain down right. When I first heard that Bane and Catwoman were going to be the villains in the final movie, I was a bit disappointed. Like many others, I wanted the Riddler. But after digging deeper and reading up on the comics and the movie, I now feel that both were a damn good choice for the send off of Batman. Before I saw the prologue, I was a tad bit worried how Bane would be interpreted on screen. I love his new look, and I think its a vast improvement over his original take in the comics. But after I saw the prologue, my doubts are gone. Granted we didn't get to see tension between Bane and Batman (I'm not counting the various fight scenes between the two because that doesn't count. It is tension, but we didn't get to see the thrilling ride lead up into it)

Bane is a formidable villain...he's a mastermind, one with a plan and a league of men to follow him even if it kills them. With the trailer, however, we do get see some tension between Batman and Bane. Its very brief but its enough to tease us for the upcoming film. And that scene is where Bane lays down his already famous line, 'when gotham is..ashes...you have my permission to die.' Its obvious there he has bruce right where he wants him, and its evident that he wants to see Wayne watch as gotham is destroyed. With the previous Batman movies, Nolan was able to generate near perfect tension between the hero and the bad guy. He made us really cheer for Bruce/Batman. We really wanted to see him succeed. With the batman movies that came before Nolan, there was tension, but it wasn't deeply thrilling enough to really call it memorable.

I firmly believe that the tension between Batman and Bane will be much more intense, more emotionally shocking, and memorable than the tension between Batman and the Joker. I love how already Bane is a far different villain than the Joker. It will get to the point where Batman will have to break his one rule and kill Bane. Why? Because Bane will become too much of a nuisance and by keeping him alive will only do more harm than good. But the big thing that's been scratching on my cerebellum is how Bane will meeet his end.

In previous Batman movies its been kinda the same way for the Villain to go out:

Batman (1989): Joker Falls to his death after a gargoul statue is tied around his ankle.

Batman Returns: Penguin falls several stories into a shallow pond.

Batman Forever: Two Face falls several stories into a shallow pond where there happens to be spikes down there.

Batman & Robin: ....

Batman Begins: Rha's, while in the front car of a train, falls several stories into an underground parking garage where the train explodes.

The Dark Knight: Harvey Dent (two face) is bumped over the side of a three story ledge where he eventually dies.

So overall, Batman's enemies fall to their deaths. Will that happen in the Dark Knight Rises? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I think Batman will probably rip off Bane's mask, revealing the cruel, disgusting man underneath, causing Bane to be weakened and allowing Batman to strike a death blow. Its a speculation, but that's just what I think.

But I want to know what you have to say.
Will the tension between Bane and Batman be fierce? Will it upstage the tension seen in the Dark Knight?
How will Batman defeat bane? Let me know!
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antonio
antonio - 4/23/2012, 7:04 PM
"He wants him and is about to have his way with him"?
TheMyth
TheMyth - 4/23/2012, 8:09 PM
lmao never noticed the fact that the villains all fall to their death. I hope that doesn't happen this time, though I'm sure Bane will be a victim of his own devices. That's one part of the character I don't think they'll alter, though they may tease it.
golden123
golden123 - 4/24/2012, 3:33 PM
That is a pretty detailed speculation at the end. What makes you say, Bane, will die like that? Not to mention, why do you think Batman will break one of the major points the "The Dark Knight" made, and resort to killing? Batman doesn't cross that line of morality. "The Dark Knight" made that clear.
SmellofDuty
SmellofDuty - 4/24/2012, 4:19 PM
I think Bane will die. One villian from each movie has always died. One lived. The Scarecrow and Joker both I'm assuming are in either Blackgate or Arkham. I think Catwoman will be the living villian even though she will most likely be a hero/villian.
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 4/24/2012, 4:20 PM
@golden123

The reason as to why I think Batman will break his one rule is because he would have endured so much, having to see his friends suffer through a lot of pain and if Bane is kept alive, then there will never be resolution. Yeah the joker can be contained, but from what I've read and fromw hat I've seen, Bane can't. His loyal thugs would break him out of whatever prison he is held in. The fight scene by city hall is more than likely the finale of the movie, considering that Batman is out in daylight. Its there that probably he just doesn't give a shit what time of day it is, he just needs to either send Bane packing or silence him forever.

I think Batman will kill bane like that because I don't know, I think maybe it would be rather cool.

Its just what I think. Like WesleyGibson said, 'we'll all know when it gets here.'
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/25/2012, 12:13 PM
If Batman kills Bane then he wouldn't be "Rising", he would be "Falling". Kinda goes against the whole name of the movie.
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