Major Kick-Ass 2: Balls To The Wall Plot Details Revealed

Major Kick-Ass 2: Balls To The Wall Plot Details Revealed Major Kick-Ass 2: Balls To The Wall Plot Details Revealed

That Mark Millar isn't exactly a Chris Nolan when it comes to spilling the goods! In an interview with Movieweb the writer tells pretty much all. He also talks about American Jesus, and Mathew Vaughn's progress on X-Men: First Class. Obviously spoilers lie ahead...

By MarkCassidy - Jul 29, 2010 04:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Kick-Ass
Source: movieweb.com

Here is the interview highlights, in which Miller tells us what to expect to see in the sequel from HitGirl, Red Mist and basically the plot structure of the movie/comic...

When asked how the movie's progress is coming along..

I am writing the comic book right now. Matthew Vaughn is directing X-Men: First Class, which he will be doing until about April. I will have finished writing the new comic by Christmas. Then, in April, we will begin working on Kick-Ass 2: Balls to the Wall..

..The film and the comic book are very closely tied together. There are only a few minor changes towards the end. It does led directly into a sequel, and I am writing the sequel as I always planned it to be. The actors may be a little bit older, or bigger. They can address that in the movie. But I am not changing anything for the comic book. We left things off with her being adopted by this extremely nice man. He is a cop. And she has to stop killing people, you know? That seems like an interesting starting point in the next one in regards to her character. She is going to be like Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, where she hasn't picked up a gun in years. It's that type of thing. I like the idea of doing that with an eleven year old girl. She was part of this massive cacophony of violence. But she's not allowed to kill people anymore. She is consumed with anger, and forced to watch TV shows instead. Halfway through the movie, or the comic, we will follow her as she picks up a gun again. It is going to be awesome.


And Red Mist?

This is a guy who has had his entire family killed by Hit Girl. He heads off and develops his martial arts skills. He learns how to become a better villain. That type of thing. He is going to come back and wreck unholy vengeance on our team. But in reality, he just comes back and gets stoned, and he spends a lot of money. He can't do anything, so he hires this bad ass girl from Russia, she comes into the story, and her plan is to kill Hit Girl. Red Mist becomes like Charles Manson. He goes on-line and influences a bunch of young villains to go against Kick-Ass and Hit Girl. The whole thing ends up as a big gang fight like you'd see in The Warriors. There is going to be a big gang fight in the middle of Times Square between all of these costumed heroes. And at the head will be the Red Mist and Hit Girl.

When asked about his other project, American Jesus..


I think that film is going to remain in development Hell. Several people came forth to talk to me about American Jesus, and they wanted to make so many changes. Jesus movies are really hard for Hollywood. For some reason, Hollywood is very abashed to doing them. Even though they do quite well. Just look at The Passion of the Christ. But people would ask us, "Can you change the movie to where you don't actually have Jesus in it...But someone kind of 'like' Jesus?" That defeats the whole purpose. This film is supposed to be about the return of Jesus Christ, you know. So I have put it on the back burner. Because Matthew and I are going to do Kick-Ass 2: Balls to the Wall this next time around.

Has he given Mathew Vaughn any insight into the characters of X-Men: First Class?

Yes. Matthew and I talk about it every couple of days or so. He knows his way around X-Men really well. He'll sometimes call me up and ask a couple of things. Generally, he knows what he is doing. About three years ago he was going to do X-Men: The Last Stand. He did about six months work on the film. He really got to know those characters. He is pretty well versed on it. Occasionally, he will call me and ask me to check on something. But he really knows that material well, man.

So nothing about Kick-Ass himself though! I assume Millar is saving that info for a later interview. Anyway, I can't wait for both this comic and the eventual movie.

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conformist21
conformist21 - 7/29/2010, 4:17 PM
i wonder how the plot hole of dave ending up with the girl will be fixed, i mean hit-girl going back to her mother and all that, it seems easy to become adapted.

Sounds quite interesting, i wonder if kickass will at least get a bit better at fighting
bleedthefreak
bleedthefreak - 7/29/2010, 4:18 PM
sounds great cant wait for this. its the only time i liked the movie more then the comic
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 7/29/2010, 4:19 PM
Sounds awesome!
josahling
josahling - 7/29/2010, 4:22 PM
looking forward to this one!
airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 7/29/2010, 4:28 PM
Superheroes and Supervillains fighting in Times Square?! That's going to be freaking EPIC in the movie!!!!
Superzero
Superzero - 7/29/2010, 4:39 PM
@bleedthefreak: Right on!

The big difference between the comic and the movie to me was that the movie actually made me give a damn about the characters. The story arc of Big Daddy in particular was the biggest let down in the comic IMHO. For him to put his daughter through what he did for no reason other than "he wanted her to have an exciting life" is the worst case of comic book parenting this side of Norman Osborn. Yes, the movie Big Daddy was no better but at least he had a semi decent reason! As far as sequels go I'm not going to hold my breath. I probably won't buy a comic sequel and unless Vaughn and the rest of the (living) cast return I'll be highly skeptical of a theatrical return. That said I can't WAIT for the 3rd!
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 7/29/2010, 4:42 PM
I agree. I enjoyed the movie more. Mark Millar is a hell of a writer..in most respects, but he does have a tendency to make his characters, even the protagonists, very hard to like.
Breasticles7
Breasticles7 - 7/29/2010, 4:44 PM
Hahaha I love the Charles Manson idea.
UnfriendlySpidey
UnfriendlySpidey - 7/29/2010, 4:51 PM
Awesome find @ Ror like always! This sequel is going to be epic! And I love that he's working o the comic & the sequel at the same time so they coincide with one another. Love the idea for Hit Girl & Red Mist! What I want to know is if they'll develop Kick-Ass into a better hero or if he'll remain the goofball that's just lucky. I'd love to see a hybrid of both aspects for this one...what do you think?
Luigi
Luigi - 7/29/2010, 4:55 PM
Can't wait. I hope they deal with Dave being an adult and having to get an actual job instead of having superhero fantasies, that would be interesting.
conformist21
conformist21 - 7/29/2010, 4:59 PM
hit-girl will die, get paralyzed or something,
then kick-ass will finally man-up in the 3rd book,
maybe hit-girl will go bad and they'll fight in the end of the 3rd book,
ha, who knows.
Creature
Creature - 7/29/2010, 5:06 PM
It's so.. so.. Mark Millar.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 7/29/2010, 5:14 PM
Sounds bloody excellent. Great work ROR! :) I wasnt a huge fan of the changes made in the movie (rocket launcher!?!) although some of it was a little better - Dave and Katie ending up together for example. (although what Millar did in the comic book was far funnier) Either way, I'm looking forward to another great comic series and a movie that's just as good, and a little more faithful to the source material, come 2012!
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 7/29/2010, 5:14 PM
so will they be changing the name of the comic then to HIT-GIRL? i mean - i know Hit Girl is awesome and everything but the damn thing is called KICK-ASS! where's he in all of this? this story should revolve around him - right now it sounds like it's about everyone but him! when even you find your own title character the least interesting there's something wrong. i want to see what KICK-ASS is going through. i like KICK-ASS!

as for the comic - hated it. dropped it after two issues. all i could hear was Mark Millar (even tho i like him) talking too me from behind the pages winking and nudging me the whole time. as for the movie? LOVED IT! one of my favorite movies. the actors really brought the characters to life for me when previously i wasn't feelin' it. now i care about KICK-ASS! i want a KICK-ASS movie!!! not a hit-girl movie.
Superzero
Superzero - 7/29/2010, 5:15 PM
@ROR
I loved the first two Ultimate books though. I'm glad they're using a little bit of that in the Avengers flick. American Jesus was fairly well done too, but it was sort of like a comic book version of Green Day's American Idiot if that makes any sense...lol...to me Mark Millar is like a poor man's Garth Ennis, he has shocking moments that grab your attention but the scenes without the blood, guts, and tits are just filler to get to the next scene with blood, guts, and tits! At least Ennis gets you to care about the characters. Cassiday from Preacher was one low, nasty, SOB but you really fell in love with the blood sucking bastard!
LibertySeaOtter
LibertySeaOtter - 7/29/2010, 5:31 PM
I can't wait for the next Kick-Ass series!!!
SHAZAM171
SHAZAM171 - 7/29/2010, 5:32 PM
MORE HITGIRL!!! She kicked A$$. ; )~
CharEl
CharEl - 7/29/2010, 5:48 PM
Now they managed to get the words "Ass" and "Balls" into the title...so parents can explain it all to the young kids.
GreenLantern14
GreenLantern14 - 7/29/2010, 6:28 PM
Awesome. Sounds like it's going to be good. Can't wait.
AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 7/29/2010, 6:34 PM
@Ror
Awesome interview! Can't wait to hear more from him about it. I never did read the graphic novel but even though some of the stuff didn't make it in the film, it might have been for the better. Millar's writing can be very good, but the downside is that it is very nihilistic and cynical. Just look at "Wanted," the idea was "What if Peter Parker became a supervillain?" Although I never read the comic it still would've been hard for the stuff on their to make it on screen because of the content. Same goes to Garth Ennis, wonder how Hollywood is going to flyby with the stuff he's done on "Preacher" and "The Boys." "Kick-Ass'" film adaptation worked better as a parody than it would've as a full on adaptation, because like you said it would have been hard to take in all of that violence and everything else.

@Unfriendly
I do like that he is still be collaborative with Matt on the projects. And that "Warriors" style description he made about the superhero and villain gangs sounds epic! I guess the reason he brought up Hit-Girl and Red Mist more is because they're going to play big parts in the stories. Dave is going to be a wonder as to what he'll be like after retiring(in the film)/going on with his work. I think it would be cool if he at least got a little better, not too good but still clumsy.

@JoshW
The rocket launcher at first sight didn't bother me, but the escape scene did make it overkill and made me think "Is this actually happening?" That was truly the only flaw in the film. The original ending with Dave/Katie was funnier (I can't believe she did that!) Overall the changes didn't bother me that much and I hope with you that they stay as true as they can.

@OdinsBeard
Yep, but I think Kick-Ass is still going to be a part of this. Hopefully he isn't going to be a character left in the background. I guess Mark got into Hit-Girl and Red Mist's situations first because just to let us know what is currently going on in the "Kick-Assiverse." Dave might just get caught in the middle of it and is forced into it because of the warrant Mist must've made on him and Mindy. Never really read the comics, only saw the pages of the first two issues on YouTube. The book just felt too cynical. I liked the film a lot better as it was more fun and worked better as a parody. I'm looking forward to the sequel as much as you and everyone else is!
@CharEl
LOL! :)

Hey guys! I made a new poll:
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 7/29/2010, 6:35 PM
Some of the best work ive ever seen, Comic n Movie!
TheLonelyComicBookNerd
TheLonelyComicBookNerd - 7/29/2010, 7:26 PM
I can't fricken wait! ahhahah! I love kick-ass and can't wait for the comics and the movie!
GrayFox1025
GrayFox1025 - 7/29/2010, 8:39 PM
Maybe it's just me but Kick-Ass is so far the only book/comic book movie adaptation where i liked the movie more than the source material. Don't get me wrong, the comic was great but i felt that the movie did a much better take on the story. Anyone else agree?
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 7/29/2010, 8:43 PM
AverageCitizen@ "cynical" <- EXACTLY!!! that's the perfect word for it. the actors we able to pull off the lines brilliantly and it made me see this whole thing in a new light.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 7/29/2010, 8:48 PM
GrayFox@ yes! many people agree!
wade1210
wade1210 - 7/29/2010, 11:22 PM
i still love the idea of red mists new name it has a nice ring to it like one just screams "LOOK ITS THE MOTHER-[frick]ER!!!!"
bsprecher
bsprecher - 7/30/2010, 12:59 AM
@Ror: Great stuff! Bloke does like to chat up his ideas, doesn't he?
Treebeard
Treebeard - 7/30/2010, 1:59 AM
kick-ass rules! Millar is awesome! not a huge fan of Nemesis however... so much hype and it was just a let down
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/30/2010, 3:15 AM
kick ass the comic is one of the best comics i've ever read.
kick ass the movie is one of the best comic movies i've ever seen.
looking forward to reading & seeing kick ass 2 balls to the wall.

as for matthew vaughn,it will be intresting to see how he handles x-men first class.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/30/2010, 4:16 AM
BALLZ to the WALLZ!!! : P

KICK A$$ is nearly up there with WATCHMEN & SUPEMAN THE MOVIE, Also SPIDEY 2 and DARK KNIGHT!

Lookin' forward to it! ; )
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/30/2010, 4:21 AM
@ leee777 what about x-men 2,sin city & 300.
DrDon
DrDon - 7/30/2010, 5:18 AM
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/30/2010, 5:21 AM
well i guess no one needs to go see Kick Ass 2. He just told us everything that happens in it. Mark Millar needs to learn to keep his mouth shut sometimes, for the love of god.
Shaman
Shaman - 7/30/2010, 6:23 AM
CDB- I've been campaigning for someone to shut him up for like ever, man!

OdinsBeard- Well i wouldn't be surprised if Kick-Ass WASN'T Millar's focal point. He sure as hell wasn't in the first. He took the backseat for the whole film. Maybe it's why it was so good in the first place LOL ;P

Millar- X-nay on the et-pacs jay with the aitling guns, gay!!! And MAYBE... your ending to this one will keep the whole film's epicness intact LOL
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 7/30/2010, 6:31 AM
This sounds like it's going to be another fun movie. I was pleasantly surprised by how GOOD the first movie was. Y'all know I'm not the biggest Millar fan around here, but I have to honestly say that Kick Ass rates as one of my top five best comic book movies ever. I will certainly be at Best Buy on Tuesday to buy the DVD, and will be there opening day for the sequel.

The movie was worlds better than the comic. This is one time where changing the story for a movie actually improved it.

Shaman
Shaman - 7/30/2010, 6:56 AM
comicb00kguy- I haven't read the books but as i commented on Ror's last review, i personally feel that they have improved sources only a hand full of times in the past. The Crow being one, Burton's Batman was another IMO (making Joker Bruce's parents' murderer was brilliant), the squidless Watchmen etc. But i guess it all comes down to personal tastes. Not everyone agrees that these were all improvements. But to me they certainly were and i've always been for "improving the source" while keeping it's essence intact ;)
Superzero
Superzero - 7/30/2010, 7:35 AM
@Shaman:
Couldn't agree with you more! When it comes down to CBM's "Keeping the essence intact" is essential but the writers/directors also have a tough job sifting through decades of continuity. Now with a comic like Kick-Ass it's a little easier given the fact that it's entire run is a handful of issues. I think it would be harder adapting something like say, Transmetropolitan or Preacher, where each and every issue is vital to the storyline. Funny that you metion Burton's Batman, I just picked up the 2disc special edition that has the cut out "Robin" scene, granted it's just storyboards but it was pretty neat. I always thought that Burton's Batman, while a CLASSIC, was always more like a darker version of the television series. Even as a 12 year old sitting in the theater I remember thinking to myself, "Joker didn't kill Bruce's parents! Joe Chill did!" But as far as streamlining the plot and tying Joker into Bruce it WAS a very effective plot device. I did finally get to see Joe Chill but I had to wait 16 years!
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