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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/5/2018, 8:13 AM
The problem with the "Cloverfield" concept is it's execution. After 10 Cloverfield Lane the general audience was upset but began to accept the franchise as an Anthology. Now with Paradox the film billed itself as a sequel to the first film. But when you watch the movie it feels standalone as well.

So the films are just a confusing mess with the continuity. I get they are set on alternate earths but making it where an experiment goes wrong and warps beasts and aliens into alternate realities makes it feel like the production company are forcing the first film to be canon to the second and vice versa.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/5/2018, 8:29 AM
@SonOfAGif - I struggle to understand why you guys are confused. Multiple universes. Literally explains everything
orb2
orb2 - 2/5/2018, 8:16 AM
But, what about the satellite, or space debris that crashes into the sea at the end of Cloverfield that was supposed to have brought the monster to New York. One could assume that this was part of the Shepard, so it would mean there's not only multiple dimensions but also a rift in time. I'm trying too hard to justify this movie and it's links... damnit. It's like Lost all over again
Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 2/5/2018, 9:25 AM
@orb2 - The theory I saw was that the monster was sent far back in time on that earth and that an unrelated satellite caused that monster to wake up in 2008 of that Earth. Don't think it was intended to be part of the Shepard, though I hoped that was where they were going with it
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 2/5/2018, 9:59 AM
@Armageddon26 - I think the biggest mistake was the producers making 10 Cloverfield Lane act as a standalone film rather than a sequel.

Instead of Aliens it should have been Clovie destroying the surface. Have the film take place in rural New Jersey and have it take place parallel to the first film with Mary Elizabeth's character getting into the accident the night the monster awakens and being held captive during it's rampage.
KnifeWasTooSlow
KnifeWasTooSlow - 2/5/2018, 10:04 AM
@orb2 - What if the satellite that wakes the original monster was the part of the station with David Oyelowo?
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/5/2018, 10:15 AM
@orb2 - well that was just a theory it was never confirmed whether it was a satellite or the monster itself. The majority of theories I saw at the time the original came out was that it was actually an egg considering the original Clover was an infant
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/5/2018, 10:16 AM
@orb2 - also considering that the two Cloverfield stations seemingly collided across time the wreckage of the second universes station could have ended up in the main universe as the debris we saw in the first movie
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/5/2018, 10:18 AM
@SonOfAGif - I agree, the alien ending really ruined that movie for me (I think it would have been better if Goodman was just lying the whole time Kimmy Schmidt style) but if it had been Clover and his mom running around I would have loved that
orb2
orb2 - 2/6/2018, 2:18 AM
@Ha1frican - What I've read on other sites, is that the ARG states that it is a Japanese satellite which has nothing to do with the Cloverfield Stations. If so, they missed a golden opportunity to tie everything together!
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/6/2018, 7:39 AM
@orb2 - yeah I just went back and watched the blu-ray with the investigative mode on that adds in all the arg stuff and it seems pretty clear there’s no way any of this caused the events of Cloverfield. At most the Shepherd places the monsters dormant at the bottom of the ocean a long time ago but they are definitely separate universes because of the timelines and the evidence presented as to what woke up Clover either being the Hastui satellite or the T.I.D.O Wave sabotage of Bold Futura’s deep see excavation operation which was them mining the monster for Seabed’s nectar. My bet is that the Shepherd just brought the Clovers over from the first Cloverfield to the Cloverfield Theory Universe
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/6/2018, 7:43 AM
@orb2 - I thought that to but we know the name of the satellite and pretty much everything about what led to Clover leaving the ocean from the ARG and Blu-ray. I think the Shepherd just brought the clovers over from the original timeline and possibly planted them in the Atlantic as dormant a long time ago but by the cannon of the first movie there’s really no way they take place in the same universe or that what happened in Theory caused the first movie
Magus
Magus - 2/5/2018, 8:16 AM
I thought it was pretty good. Very CERN-Mandela Effect themed. This could have happened in real life and we wouldn’t know.
xfan320
xfan320 - 2/5/2018, 8:22 AM
It was a good movie, but I want a TRUE Cloverfield movie that addresses the monsters straight up and with no "big twist".

I like that we have an idea now of what's happening, but what about Tagruato? TIDO wave? Slusho? Where do these beasts come from? Is there a home planet? Does anything actually connect to the ARG stuff??
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/5/2018, 1:30 PM
@xfan320 - I think after watching all the investigative mode stuff that all of that stuff in the ARG and original Lcoberfield was its own universe that maybe is slightly linked to “Theory” in that maybe the Shepherd is why the monsters in the original were in the ocean like maybe it bridged universes and brought them there, but that mainly the monsters were brought from original Cloverfield to Theory because of the Shepherd so they are still separate universes
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 2/5/2018, 8:22 AM
Solid film, good scifi space thriller. Not great, could have been better, but I enjoyed it and it had me watching to try to figure out what was going on. I can see though why they didn't release this in the theaters. 8/10
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