SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY Director Ron Howard Weighs In On The Movie Not Meeting Expectations

@Deodorant - Except for the fact that The Last Jedi wasn't bad. It was actually a very good movie, but the crybabies on this site are upset because it doesn't follow the same predictable Star Wars trilogy mold, "it's like poetry it rhymes."

You babies all had your own little visions for Episode 8 and when none of them came true you just pout and cry just like the whiners who still shout, "George Lucas raped my childhood" regarding the prequels.

Grow up and learn to move forward. You're not always going to get your way.

@411IDSigo - Nope I had no vision for what TLJ would be like, it just sucked as a film.

@DavidMullich - IMDB and RT shows audience response which you wouldn't consider A grade, even BO numbers backs those ratings up whether or not they're bots. It made no where near as much as TFA which is the only movie we should compare it to since its part of the main SW saga and not a 'spin off'.

@Deodorant - You know what other Star Wars sequel didn't make near as much as the original?.....Empire Strikes Back.

DOMESTIC
Star Wars: $307,263,857
ESB: $209,398,025

Empire made 32% LESS than Star Wars

The Force Awakens: $936,662,225
The Last Jedi: $620,181,382

TLJ made 34% less than TFA

So the drop off between both first and second movies is virtually the same.

Therefore, by your argument Empire Strikes Back was a "VERY bad" movie as well.

@A2ron - Exactly!! It broke away from the predictable Star Wars mold.

@411IDSigo - oh sry that I hurt your feelings .. MATE ..

@411IDSigo - While ESB and even ROTJ performed less in the BO than ANH, people still rated them equal to ANH.
Peoples ratings rule over BO in determining how well a movie has been received by the audience, the BO numbers were used just merely to justify the lower response from the audience compared with TFA, as people also claimed bots.
History shows a high profile movie sequel can be subpar (via user ratings) but make more money in the BO, than be good (via user ratings) and make less in the BO. E.g. transformers > ROTF, X2 > X3, Matrix>Revolutions, iron man > Ironman 2 just to name a few

It's ok, you enjoyed TLJ, but majority seem to say its not as good as the previous film, i thought it was bad, with me watching it twice to try and like it but that's my subjective feeling and that's fine. It's like me loving GOTG2 more than GOTG1, While GOTG2 performed abit better than the first, majority of people still rated 1 over 2, you can't win every time, and that's fine. I think you're too worried about others not thinking the same way as you, just remember opinions are like assholes, everyones got one ;)

@Deodorant - Your theory sounds nice but they didn’t have “audience ratings” when the original trilogy first came out.
The “audience ratings” back then was called box office.

Even the audience ratings today are not 100% accurate because there are no filters for quality. Any moron can submit an audience review for a movie and that leaves far too much room for biased subjectivity.

Some may hate the movie simply because Luke died. Some may not have liked the flying Princess Leia. But how many audience reviews take into account the full story, structure, character development and cinematography? How many take into account the ENTIRE film? Very few.
And that’s not even including the trolls.

You base your “majority” comment on an RT score but if you consider the far more accurate Cinemascore which polls only people who SAW the movie, The Last Jedi had an A rating. How can that be if, as you say the MAJORITY hated the movie?

And even now, after the release on home video IMBD fan reviewers who are normally more serious film reviewers rate TLH at 7.3 out of 10. That’s a majority of people who liked it once again.

Or perhaps you were referring to the babies on this site as your alleged “majority”. This site is filled with lemming children who want to think like everyone else to feel included or important.
And those who dare speak logic or oppose the views of the fraternity of regulars are often shouted down or attacked.

Either way it seems as if your conclusion is wrong. Your “majorities” are based on skewed data.

Unlike you I dont care who thinks like me, but I do like to point out where people are wrong and why. In the case of this site it’s because most of the TLJ haters are babies who didn’t get their way. I’m sure they would have preferred the same old tired “It’s poetry it rhymes” plot.
And since this took the franchise in a fresh direction...now they are whining. That or they just want to fit in so they areliked by their peers on this site.

That being said....on all points....you are wrong.

@Deodorant - Audience ratings Are much easier to dole out. Everybody has an opinion. But people won’t spend their money on a bad film. Yet worldwide TLJ earned $1.33 Billion.
That had to come from repeat viewings of the movie as well. And even AFTER your alleged negative fan reviews of the movie the box office continued to grow.
So your theory, your opinion that the majority of people did not like the movie does not hold water.

I was around for the original release of the original trilogy so I can speak from experience. ESB was darker and a bit more off putting but the lines were around the block and continually sold out as it was for ROTJ.
But at that time ESB was in maybe one cinema while ROTJ was in a few cinemas when multi-plexes came to fruition.

Either way people still waited hours for tickets and spent their money, which was far less then than tickets are today. In addition the movies were out for a year at times and rereleased in theaters before release on home video.

I call people crybabies because the shoe fits. They whine and complain endlessly because TLJ didn’t line up with their fan fiction or You Tube theories.
So now they throw endless tantrums and make up statistics or make assumptions like you are doing no matter how incorrect they are.

@411IDSigo - ouch that really got me and I thought we were mates mate?!

@boiling - Ahh gifs. The last resort for an immature child who can't win an argument.

Bye bye cupcake.

@Deodorant -
5/29/18, 4:$0 PM - "When I claim a film to be bad, that is my personal opinion not the overall audience which I've never claimed or mentioned anywhere above."

5/29/2018, 2:20 AM - "It's ok, you enjoyed TLJ, but majority seem to say its not as good as the previous film."

You can't even keep your own argument straight.

And you keep moving the goalpost.
So you want to invalidate ANY rating because it doesn't agree with your beloved Rotten Tomatoes score.

Cinemascore in which the audience gave it an "A":
"Cinemascore ratings have fewer numbers and is in the USA ONLY, thus itself is far from your claims of "far more accurate", cus the whole world doesn't matter right?"

IMDB viewers give it a 7.3/10 and you now say, "home viewers are more serious in their rating schemes, this has pushed ESB and ROTJ rating to same levels as ANH on IMDB and RT." Then you try to claim that I made that comment...which I did not.

So two out of three audience surveys show that TLJ was not horrible even though you said the "MAJORITY" said it was not as good.
But you want to discredit the two that disagree with your RT score which does not require people actually SEE the movie before reviewing it.

Your argument does not hold water. You can't even keep your own points straight.

You really are just wasting my time at this point.

@411IDSigo - Naaw no byebye, I can go on forever dumpling! You like gifs, look here I found one of yourself

@411IDSigo - Obviously the part of ALL my posts which you understood...... none of it! Adios!

@TheFamousJMC - i just never got kylo...he just seems like a brat to me and his halfway evil nature just seems quite annoying. I feel like they're just retreading vaders story line and kylo will eventually redeem himself just before he dies (like vader did).

@411IDSigo - you shouldn't assume.....I'm not one of the people who hate TLJ and i didnt make any fan theories because i like to see where the writers and director take the story.....i just dont like emo ren the big brat.

@411IDSigo - lol i didn't hate either of them, i just feel kylo is a bit of a brat..but that isn't enough to ruin the film for me.