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dracula
dracula - 11/7/2019, 3:22 AM
Sucks that she didn't get her send off movie. All they have are deleted scenes, cant do much with that
lawndart
lawndart - 11/7/2019, 4:34 AM
@dracula - It does suck. On one hand I think many of us who grew up on the OT were disappointed not only with her death and the inability for her to see her own character off, but the way the others were treated on their way out of the story as well. We rarely experience the goodbyes the way we want in the real world but it would have been a polite nod to the fans to see the old cast together again before they fade away.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 11/7/2019, 12:49 PM
@lawndart @dracula - I disagree, TLJ was a great send off for all the past characters. Leia trusting Poe to lead the resistance, Finn finally finding a reason to fight, and Rey deciding on her own destiny. Then Luke's final sacrifice to give everyone "A New Hope" again.

I think it's weirder for JJ Abrams to bring Carrie Fisher and Lando back because it's unnecessary.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 11/7/2019, 3:34 AM
People would have probably bitched about it.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/7/2019, 7:47 AM
@Chewtoy -
"She was going to be the last Jedi, so to speak. That’s cool right? People used to say to me, ‘Why is it that Carrie never gets a lightsaber and chops up some bad guys.’ Obi-Wan was in his prime when he was Carrie’s age!" - Todd Fisher


You are damn right that people would have bitched about it, it's pretty much ignoring all the cool stuff that Leia has done in the past pretending that she needs to be violent to be cool.

Whoever thought of this linked strength and coolness to physical actions - they imply Leia was not a strong/cool female character in the past and that she could only be a strong/cool Jedi by swinging a lightsaber around and killing people.

Honestly, that is fricking disgusting, incredibly toxic and dismissive of Leia as a character. Princess Leia who stood up to Darth Vader with words rather than violence is treated like trash by someone who believes Women can only be cool if they use physical violence.

These are the ideas of those who worked on Episode 8 relayed by Todd Fisher.
JR
JR - 11/7/2019, 9:11 AM
@WilliamCipher - Yeah I know, I wasn't saying it because of a possible Lighsaber battle, its just that she looked pretty bad in the last movie. There's a difference between Carrie Fischer from epVII and epVIII
JR
JR - 11/7/2019, 9:12 AM
@WilliamCipher - Probably, but she was also in a bad condition physically and mentally for her age, so it would have looked weird too
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/7/2019, 3:59 AM
This trilogy is rife with What Ifs
lawndart
lawndart - 11/7/2019, 4:17 AM
@BlackBeltJones - Unfortunately yes. Ah, what could have been...
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 11/7/2019, 4:19 AM
Although I never liked the idea of Leia being a Jedi, I do hope we get to see her as a force ghost (but not like in those leaked plot details, because they sucked!)
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 11/7/2019, 4:30 AM
Yeah, I figured that the truth (that Disney has been downplaying since 2016) is that Carrie Fisher’s death messed up everything.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/7/2019, 7:51 AM
@NoAssemblyReqd -
Yeah... no.

You are being fed a lie to make excuses for a terrible product that they are increasingly starting to fear will underperform for TroS
Tasmaniac
Tasmaniac - 11/7/2019, 4:38 AM
This makes me genuinely sad. How much these sequels could have been if not for the tragic passing of Carrie Fisher, and the misguided writers being determined not to give in to fan service by focusing on the original cast, when the simple fact is the reason the OT is so beloved is BECAUSE of the story of those original characters. 😔
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/7/2019, 7:53 AM
@Tasmaniac -
You are being told a lie, an excuse to try and defend bad writing, directing and creative decisions because they know that TroS could underperform heavily and want a scapegoat.

In this claim, blame the collapse of the sequel trilogy on the death of Carrie Fisher.

In a similar sense they marketed Episode 8 using the death of Carrie Fisher as the focus 'Will TLJ actually kill off Leia?' they even included the entire spaceship scene with Mary Poppins Leia for that reason.
SerKurtWagner
SerKurtWagner - 11/7/2019, 7:55 AM
@Tasmaniac - This isn't about the OT, though, this is about telling a continuation of their story, with new heroes taking up the mantle. We had Obi-wan, Anakin and Padme in the Prequels. Luke, Han and Leia in the OT. And now a new generation in the Sequels.

Fan service is the worst thing to happen to a franchise. And that's where the ST's problems originate, because all Abrams knows is fan service, so he gave us TFA, which just rehashed everything that was cool in the OT.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/7/2019, 8:19 AM
@SerKurtWagner - someone gets it. SW fans are nuts, and imo have the best and worst understanding of their favorite franchise out of fanbases, sequel trilogy isn’t about Luke Leia Han but people keep talking about the movies as if they are and when it became clear it wasn’t about them (TLJ) they backlashed
pintoman
pintoman - 11/7/2019, 4:40 AM
Well, Leia in action as a late-blooming Jedi would have been fine...but not at the expense of a Han, Luke, 3PO, R2 sideline. Having all the men leave and Leia save the day sounds like the Batwoman synopsis.
TheSavage
TheSavage - 11/7/2019, 4:41 AM
I'm kind of wondering if we won't get to see the OT cast together at the end as force ghosts, ala return of the jedi.
I know it's have no dialogue but maybe Luke and that'd be when he tells Rey the thousand generations of Jedi live in her know.
JizzerTron
JizzerTron - 11/7/2019, 5:08 AM
Leia being the last jedi seems like it would take the focus away from the new characters being in the spotlight.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/7/2019, 5:21 AM
Kyos
Kyos - 11/7/2019, 5:48 AM
@SuperCat - 😄😢
SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/7/2019, 5:33 AM
This sounds like a cool concept but I have a feeling somehow they would have f*cked it up. Luke vs. Kylo was a great idea too and look at we got.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 11/7/2019, 6:35 AM
Can't really comment on something we'll never see. I wish she was still with us and could have filmed new scenes, whatever direction they were going in. It seems they're still maintaining some Leia physical training in the final film regardless. I guess this was hinted at in TLJ, and I want Leia's abilities explored on film. Having said that, I've never been so taken out of a movie and in utter shock than when this scene happened. I couldn't believe this made the final cut. The execution is just so goofy
TheGrayGhost
TheGrayGhost - 11/7/2019, 7:30 AM
@SpideyPuffsMJ -
Pitydafool
Pitydafool - 11/7/2019, 6:46 AM
I think it would've been cool. I would really need to see it in context. I see Star Wars as a fantasy in space and Leia was the strong leader/Queen with Luke being the Knight. I think a scene where she shows control with the force would've been amazing versus her sparking a light saber and becoming a knight. Like a massive force push or force lighting deflect against Snoke (like Yoda would do)

Still love and miss you Carrie.
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