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bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/18/2019, 3:08 AM
Stupid idea, stupid article.. next! Lol
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 7/18/2019, 3:16 AM
They nailed Mysterio.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:47 AM
@WakandanQueen -
Sorta. They tried i suppose.

He was not from the practical effects background as he originally was so we dont really get the sense of someone trying to cling to a profession that is slowly being erased by the passage of time.

Him working for someone who takes credit for what he does and then wastes what he does sort of takes inspiration from the source material. He honestly felt like a re-do of Aldrich Killian.

His motivation and goals also did not really work in the established universe of the MCU. He wanted to create a hero the world could believe in by manipulating the truth - but for what goal? Other heroes exist in the MCU so he's not doing it for the sake of the population.

He's not in it for personal gain and he does not seem to want personal fame (Money, etc...) either as he fakes his own death at the end in order for him to be labelled as the 'greatest hero'

He felt underdeveloped honestly.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:57 AM
Now that i think about it along with re-reading the remark about him being a Skrull, it would have made his motivations and goal make a lot more sense. His entire character would be focused around altering and manipulating the truth.

Imagine if a Skrull could infiltrate the world with some BS backstory, create a bunch of illusions and become the most famous hero on Earth while also taking out Nick Fury (the one Earth-based person who helped Captain Marvel all those years ago) Then Captain Marvel comes back to Earth, enraged and attacks the worlds greatest hero effectively destroying her reputation and turning Earth against her.

Even if that Skrull did nothing with the title of greatest hero, the proof that they could do it would be a terrifying concept - especially if that Skrull could discover the identity of a famous hero and frame them for a crime.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 7/18/2019, 8:01 AM
@Scarilian - He probably didn’t fake his own death... his crew (notably Peter Billingsley’s character, who is specifically shown gathering up his equipment) faked a last message from him as revenge on Spider-man for destroying their big scheme. If he did fake his own death, it was to avoid being tried and imprisoned for the rest of his life, and painting himself as the hero betrayed got a competing narrative out there that they could hopefully spread to enough believers to fan into a comeback someday.

They did want fame, fortune and respect... they spelled that out. They felt that they were all under appreciated geniuses that didn’t get a portion of the respect and renown that Stark did, so they orchestrated a way for them to gain it.
newhire13
newhire13 - 7/18/2019, 8:07 AM
@Scarilian - I interpreted it as meaning that he (and his team) were tired of being overlooked, taken advantage of, not being listened to and pretty much being in the shadows of everyone wearing a cape, despite their obviously high skill level. It’s about manipulating what everyone follows in order to get their time in the sun.
AleSir19
AleSir19 - 7/18/2019, 4:55 PM
@Scarilian - Well the thing is that the writers from Far From Home and the MCU as a whole is getting each movie less "serious and dramatic" and more "comedy satire" centric.

That doesnt mean Far From Home doesnt have this small serious moments of Peter suffering the effects of all this bad bullshit that is happening to him or Quentin seeing how everything goes to hell.

But in general Quentin whole character was a satire and a joke, but a sad one and i think it works because until this point all Spiderman villains have been taken too seriously and even grounded.

It was fun to get see something different from the really complex Raimi villains (Norman/Otto/Harry) and just (Lizard/Electro/whatever that shit goblin was).


Quentin isnt his real name, he along a group of stupid assholes who have greatness complex and feel they deserve better that what they got, come together create the whole Quentin Beck warrior from another earth story...

And this whole thing alredy comes just from the comicbooks, this again is the core element from Mysterio, he is a guy who wants glory, who wanted to be the hero and believes he deserves, while other heroes dont.

It is classic arc and this way Far From Home feels straight out of a comic book.

Mysterio using a Mo-Cap suit and creating his illussions with VFX tech honor the comicbook character origins.

While the whole scene and aspect of how they rehearse the tricks and prepare the stuff is just fun to watch.

At the end Quentin is an actor searching glory and power, in this movie they capture that, a guy who is so down the rabbit hole of his own lies he doesnt seen to understand how crazy he is.

That is why i think it works.

Vulture needed to be sad and grounded for it to work, Mysterio needed to be silly and fun and amazing to watch.

I just want Kraven to be obsessed with winning

WaffeX
WaffeX - 7/18/2019, 3:18 AM
the final fight was so amazing, my favorite scene is when spidey was in the snow globe
Saga
Saga - 7/18/2019, 3:28 AM
Worst idea ever, thank God it was scrapped
Origame
Origame - 7/18/2019, 4:05 AM
@Saga - still better than making mysterio another genius guy with business ties to stark industries screwed over by tony or his dad. At least this is original.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 7/18/2019, 3:56 AM
So it wasn’t really a “version of the movie” so much as an idea they spitballed when they started talking about the character.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/18/2019, 4:19 AM
I'm not sure what the long term plan is for the Skrulls (if there is one), but it's kind of remarkable that right now the audience has basically accepted them as a harmless joke. It could become so much of a gut-punch to see them do a Secret Invasion and all of a sudden shapeshifting aliens is not a joke anymore.

It's kind of the way it happened in the comics. Here are these goofy aliens that Mr. Fantastic hypnotized into thinking they were cows, ha ha hah, oh shit there are [frick]ing sleeper cells in every book.
MultiMedia996
MultiMedia996 - 7/18/2019, 5:16 AM
@Spock0Clock - Maybe Talos and his crew are just one faction and we'll see the Skrull Queen and learn the rest of them are no better then the Kree.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:30 AM
@MultiMedia996 -
The young Skrull in Captain Marvel, who was told she had nice eyes, is almost certainly going to become Veranke as leader of the rebel Skrulls who attempt to invade Earth.

Personally i think they are rushing things a bit at this point, they are scared of making a universe without a main goal so they are shoving in several.

• Time Travel is still a thing so they can adapt Kang (Harley Keener/Ty Simpkins) or do a Time Travel plotline
• Alternate realities/timelines are now a thing thanks to the plot hole of Captain America
• We have Adam Warlock turning up in Guardians 3 and potentially Thor 4
• The Sinister Six is still being established and Mysterio obviously is not dead
• Spider-man's identity being revealed is a clear set-up to the Dark Reign storyline where Norman would rise to power and establish a group to take down the Avengers
• Skrulls are being shoved into movies with no reason other than a joke in order to make it established that anyone can be a Skrull

They need a clear goal and they simply dont have one, so they want to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 7/18/2019, 6:07 AM
@Scarilian - Right because showing Fury in a giant space station fully equipped with a Skrull crew has no purpose other than being a joke and can't possibly be hinting at something. Yup you've definitely solved the case on that one.
Brave
Brave - 7/18/2019, 10:47 AM
@Spock0Clock -
"It's kind of the way it happened in the comics. Here are these goofy aliens that Mr. Fantastic hypnotized into thinking they were cows, ha ha hah, oh shit there are [frick]ing sleeper cells in every book."

Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 7/18/2019, 4:36 AM
They better have a long term plan for the Skrulls. And I better see Super Skrull in the future. This would’ve been a stupid idea for so many different reasons. They need to establish an evil skrull here or there with some bad intentions first then slowly start showing that they’ve got sleeper cells wandering around.
Guess we can possibly find out if we’ll get that on Saturday when Marvel lets us know what their plans are.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/18/2019, 4:55 AM
"How many distractions can we get away with before people want to murder us? [The Mysterio skrull reveal] was an early idea about why he was doing everything he was doing..."

Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 7/18/2019, 5:11 AM
While it does also play into Mysterios deception and could have been interesting I'm happy they went the direction they did, cause they got Mysterio perfect in this version, literally couldn't ask for a better Beck. Looks and performance wise. He's up there with Doc Ock and Vulture.





BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/18/2019, 5:19 AM
@Mrcool210 - what's with the obsession with doc Oc from spidey2? He's terrible in that movie. He's got cap level strength for some reason and for a genius he makes some really dumb decisions. Hey there's that Peter Parker kid I need to talk to. Better throw a car at him. That'll help.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:32 AM
@BigPhilbowski -
Peter was losing his powers, which is the excuse for why he somehow seemed so strong in fights against Peter. In other aspects i felt like the tentacles were meant to be controlling him. People can do a lot of things easily when they are adrenaline filled.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/18/2019, 5:46 AM
@BigPhilbowski

“Hey there's that Peter Parker kid I need to talk to. Better throw a car at him. That'll help.”

Hey, the one “flaw” everyone’s been parroting about Spider-Man 2. 0/10, terrible Spider-Man movie. #NotMySpider-Man
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/18/2019, 10:10 AM
@regularmovieguy - you know well that's not the only flaw. It's just the easiest to pick out and one of the dumbest
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/18/2019, 10:22 AM
@BigPhilbowski

Pretty small nitpick lmao

You’re admitting you’re picking at low hanging fruit 😂
MultiMedia996
MultiMedia996 - 7/18/2019, 5:18 AM
The only reason they had the Kree destroy the Skrull home planet was because they didn't have Galactus yet. That's the only reason. The Skrulls are just as bad as the Kree. This kind of makes the conflict more black and white.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:41 AM
@MultiMedia996 -
"The only reason they had the Kree destroy the Skrull home planet was because they didn't have Galactus yet."

The problem is that the writer of Captain Marvel wanted the Skrull to be an allegory for immigration and convince people to sympathise with that cause. It's an attempt at propoganda on the most basic level. A black & white conflict where one side is entirely evil and the other is entirely good.

As such they presented a very idealised view of immigration. Everyone who is an immigrant is a good guy (Skrull) fleeing from people who are entirely bad (Kree).

Every action the good guys (Skrull) take, even if it looks evil (Kidnapping and torturing Captain Marvel, Killing Kree civilians) is actually for the 'greater good'.

Ways exist to fix this, but it'd just make the first Captain Marvel movie look even weaker as a result because you'd need to add actual character development which the first movie was afraid of doing.

It should be a very 'grey' conflict where nobody is entirely good or entirely evil - which would make Carol's story more tricky as she has to deal with the world not being as simple as 'kill Thanos' or 'Kree Good, Skrull evil' or 'Skrull evil, Kree Good' or 'Supreme intelligence bad' which is all her character has really had to deal with.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/18/2019, 5:38 AM
What a RIDICULOUS IDEA but it sounds like they were just tossing what ifs around and this was never going to turn into anything.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 7/18/2019, 6:04 AM
Goddamn am I glad some of you aren't writers.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 7/18/2019, 6:17 AM
@Reeds2Much - The degree of headassery in this comment section is next level
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 7/18/2019, 6:45 AM
@Reeds2Much - there’s some serious Straight to DVD tier pitches being thrown in this comment section.
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