@AleSir19 - Yeah. It really needed that. Of course they didn't need to actually have that scene where he died but something to show the pain that motivates him, like looking at a pic of the family together or just May mentioning Ben after Peter mentioned losing the internship. The way the story handled it, it feels more like he's just trying to be Tony Jr. Which is kind of shallow in comparison.

@AleSir19 - Honestly the best moment for me in the movie was when Tony took the suit away and he just spent the next part of the movie being a kid getting ready for Homecoming. Mostly because that validated so many of the iffy choices, was heartwarming, and Spider-Man at his core. Why couldn't THAT have been the movie? Just him trying to make a relationship work with a girl but he keeps having to deal with being Spider-Man and the responsibilities that come with it. Stuff like Tony is just another interruption but the plot is just this girl. Vulture could still be in it but not with the twist. He might not even have that much development . He's just a bad guy causing trouble and Spider-Man needing to stop him. They're obstacles in the way of the real goal, this girl. And in the end, he has to choose between telling her or losing her. But at the same time, making it clear why he needs to go out as Spider-Man by having a pic of Ben in his wallet. Just that simple.

This was fun, but I really don't see it being remembered fondly later on. That seems to be the trend with MCU movies. It comes out, everyone praises it as the best of the MCU, but then the next one comes out and we forget about it and later on give it a more realistic ranking.

@AleSir19 - Yeah.