SPIDER-MAN: James Gunn, Elizabeth Olsen, Anthony Mackie, And More Weigh In On Spidey Leaving The MCU

Spider-Man's departure from the Marvel Cinematic Universe appears to be set in stone, and now everyone from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director James Gunn to Elizabeth Olsen have shared their thoughts.

By JoshWilding - Aug 27, 2019 02:08 AM EST

Filed Under: Spider-Man

While fans were hoping for some good news about Spider-Man's future at D23 this weekend, it instead became clear that the wall-crawler's time in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has ended.

Now, a number of actors and filmmakers who call the MCU home have weighed in on the matte,r and, for the most part, they're really not happy with how things have played out for the hero after the past few years he's spent sharing a world with the characters they play or have directed.

Elizabeth Olsen (Scarlet Witch), James Gunn, Anthony Mackie (The Falcon), Sebastian Stan (Bucky), Jon Favreau, and more all weigh in here, and their comments certainly make for interesting reading.

So, to check them out, all you guys have to do is click on the "View List" button down below!

Elizabeth Olsen

The Scarlet Witch hasn't shared the screen with Spider-Man all that much over the past few years, but actress Elizabeth Olsen is clearly disappointed that things have played out the way they have.

"It really is sad," she told Variety while promoting WandaVision at D23. "First off, he’s the greatest Spider-Man to me. He actually has that youthful energy. He’s been incredible. It’s been really lucky that we’ve been able to work with him. I think it’s a big loss and it’s really too bad."

Needless to say, her remarks definitely echo what many fans have been saying as of late. The actress went on to joke that fans should consider starting a petition to make their feelings known.

James Gunn

As you can see below, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 director James Gunn has no idea what's happening with the disagreement between Disney and Sony Pictures, but he has nothing but good things to say about both Holland and director Jon Watts.

He clearly believes that the studios are trying to figure things ou,t but, as of right now, that actually happening sadly seems highly unlikely.

James Gunn on the Spider-Man situation from r/marvelstudios

Anthony Mackie And Sebastian Stan

Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan will team up in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier on Disney+, and given the comedic sensibilities of both actors, it probably won't surprise you that they decided to make light of the entire messy situation.

After pointing to his heart, Mackie said, "We will always have little Tom right here." Stan then looked to the camera and joked, "Tom, you are always on my mind."

These two often hit the convention circuit with Holland and have quite the rapport with the actor, so don't take what they say here too seriously as they probably pretty disappointed that they'll no longer be working together.

Jon Favreau

Jon Favreau was the director who helped kickstart the MCU with Iron Man back in 2008, and he's since starred alongside Holland as Happy Hogan in both Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home. While he would clearly like to see Happy's romance with Aunt May continue to play out, Favreau remains hopeful that the two sides can come to an agreement of some sort.

"We’ve all read rumors, we’ve all read press releases, but you never know what’s going to happen," he says. "I’m holding out hope and being optimistic that this isn’t the final chapter of that story between those characters. I would love to see those characters continue to share the screen together."

"And I don’t just mean Happy and Aunt May, I mean Tom Holland, Spidey and the other heroes from the MCU."

Jeremy Renner

Everyone above was asked for their thoughts on the situation with Spider-Man, but Avengers: Endgame star Jeremy Renner chose to take to Instagram almost immediately after the news broke to vent his frustrations with how things are playing out for the wall-crawler.

It was a ballsy move, but sadly not one that Disney and Sony Pictures have taken on board in the days that followed.

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Hey @sonypictures we want Spider-Man back to @therealstanlee and @marvel please, thank you #congrats #spidermanrocks #🏹 #please

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Continue reading below to check out some of the unanswered
questions we have about Spidey's big screen future!

How Will Marvel Studios Explain His Disappearance?

Marvel Studios can choose to just ignore Spider-Man's disappearance and pretend he never existed, but how do you explain the absence of a hero who was chosen to be the next Tony Stark by the man who sacrificed himself, in part, to bring Peter Parker back as his replacement?

The world learned the hero's identity at the end of Far From Home, and Earth's Mightiest Heroes were bound to have something to say about the wall-crawler using Stark Industries technology to seemingly attack London and kill Mysterio. Are we supposed to believe that they're just going to let that slide? Is Spidey going to be sent to limbo like The Defenders and just...vanish?

Will Sony Forget Five Movies' Worth Of Character Development?

With this deal at an end, Marvel Studios won't be allowed to reference Spider-Man and Sony Pictures will be unable to talk about characters like Nick Fury and Iron Man, not to mention everything that happened in the Avengers movies.

In many ways, that's easy enough to gloss over (it's not like Far From Home constantly referenced Civil War and Homecoming), but Spidey's arc has been tied to Tony Stark and The MCU, which means Sony will essentially have to start from scratch with a Peter who can't talk about everything he's been through up until this point.

His suits will vanish, as will his access to E.D.I.T.H. and any other Stark tech. Happy Hogan will no longer be around to help out, and if villains like Vulture and Mysterio do return, they're not going to be able to reference their own origin stories.

Is A Venom Crossover Now A Guarantee?

The answer to this question is more than likely "yes." We know Sony Pictures is keen to bring Spider-Man and Venom together, something that was unlikely when the wall-crawler was part of the MCU due to Eddie Brock really not fitting into that world (he could have been retconned in, but that seems unlikely given Feige's lack of involvement in the first movie).

Honestly, in order to escape the negative buzz surrounding them right now, Sony may very well rush straight into this in a bid to provide what they believe fans want. Now, there's no reason to think this wouldn't be good, but there are also a lot of ways a rushed crossover could go horribly wrong.

Will Spider-Man Get A New Costume?

Spider-Man has worn a number of costumes in the MCU, all of which have been designed by Marvel Studios' concept artists. Aside from his homemade suit, they've all been tied to other characters from Marvel's shared world (such as Tony Stark and Nick Fury).

As a result, Spidey's wardrobe is bound to receive a total overhaul as that red and black costume is ditched along with the Iron Spider suit he keeps in his closet. Sony has always done a pretty good job with the hero's costumes (aside from in The Amazing Spider-Man), so this might not be something we really need to worry about.

Is Avi Arad About To Regain Control Of The Wall-Crawler?

This is...terrifying? Avi Arad shoehorned Venom into Spider-Man 3 and, along with Matt Tolmach, he's responsible with pretty much everything that went wrong with The Amazing Spider-Man franchise. It's no secret that he doesn't get on with Feige, so now he's out of the picture, don't be surprised if he worms his way back into the web-slinger's world.

Amy Pascal will reportedly remain on board as a producer, but if Arad makes his presence felt, Spidey's world is inevitably going to become a whole lot more convoluted and messier.

Will That Cliffhanger Be Addressed?

There's nothing stopping Sony from continuing the story that kicked off in Spidey's first two films, and that means the big cliffhanger ending with his identity being revealed to the world is likely to be touched on in some way, shape, or form. Now, it probably won't play out how Feige intended, but that doesn't mean Sony won't still come up with some cool ideas.

However, it's also possible that they'll choose to gloss over this and continue the character's story without referencing anything that came before, just like how The Incredible Hulk ignored Hulk.

So, Who Does Own Avengers Tower?

Well, Marvel Studios must be extremely relieved that they didn't go ahead and name Oscorp the new owners of Stark Tower before sorting out a deal which would extend Spidey's time in the MCU beyond Far From Home. That would have left them in a tricky position, but they're now free to either leave that plot thread unaddressed or to have the Fantastic Four move in and rename it.

The next time we see Spider-Man swinging through the Big Apple, though, don't be surprised if you can't spot Avengers Tower as that building is going to end up disappearing from the city's iconic skyline. Beyond that, there won't really be too many changes to where Spidey calls home, but it will be interesting to see whether Sony continues using the same sets or returns to Los Angeles.

Will Jon Watts And Tom Holland Return?

Tom Holland is almost certainly contracted for more Spider-Man movies, but, for all we know, he may have a clause where he can get out of that. The actor loves the character, though, and he's always worked for Sony so there's nothing to say that will change - assuming he's happy with the script.

As for Jon Watts, he's not currently signed up for the next Spider-Man movie and if Marvel Studios offers him another project set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Sony could end up looking elsewhere for a filmmaker to take the helm of the franchise. After all, he may not want to work on the character without Feige's overseeing the creative side of things.

Does This Mean Spider-Man Is About To Enter The Spider-Verse?

We know that Sony has a long list of Spider-Man spinoff movies in the works, including films featuring characters like Black Cat and Morbius, the Living Vampire. Now, Peter Parker is free to swing into any and all of those, something which means we won't have to endure any more awkward Spider-Man-less adventures like Venom.

One of the spinoffs we know is being worked on revolves around Kraven the Hunter and reportedly gives Spidey a key role, so don't be shocked if that now becomes the Far From Home sequel...

Can A Deal Still Be Reached?

We never thought we'd see Spider-Man in the MCU, so it's entirely feasible that a deal will be reached despite how bleak things look right now. We know that Sony offered Disney some alternatives, and while they flat out refused to accept those terms, the negative response may very well lead to both parties reconsidering their current stance.

In the eyes of many fans, Marvel Studios can do no wrong, so the last thing they want is to be tarnished with being responsible for Spider-Man leaving the MCU. Sony, meanwhile, will not want to release a movie which is surrounded by negative buzz because the wall-crawler can no longer interact with The Avengers or even appear in any of the team's upcoming adventures.

Is This All Just A Negotiating Tactic?

It may not have started that way, but it could now become one for both Sony and Disney.

Let's assume that Disney leaked the news to try to force Sony to give them what they want. Well, the latter has done a pretty good job of making it look like Disney are the ones to blame, so that might now force them to relent and accept something below 50%.

It's hard to say, but, as of right now, no one is going to come out of this situation looking good.

Who Will Replace Spider-Man In The MCU?

Spider-Man brought something very different to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as we got to see a superhero in high school dealing with problems vastly different to those faced by characters like Captain America and Iron Man.

Peter's absence will leave a void in the MCU that doesn't necessarily have to be filled, but does close the door on many of the stories Marvel Studios could have otherwise told. There are a lot of possibilities for who could take Spidey's place, including the Sam Alexander version of Nova, Ms. Marvel, or pretty much any member of the Young Avengers.

Will that be as satisfying as seeing Spidey in action, though? Nope.

What Will Happen To The Rest Of The Cast?

The cast of the first two Spider-Man movies presumably signed deals with Sony Pictures rather than Marvel Studios, but this change behind the scenes could have a significant impact on those contracts and the likes of Marisa Tomei and Zendaya may have the option to not reprise their roles.

On the other hand, it's equally as likely that they're locked in to whatever comes next, and they'll be forced to star in those next two movies whether they like it or not.

What Happens To Dark Avengers?

Well, it's probably not happening for starters! It's no secret that Marvel Studios has a number of rough drafts lying around their offices, and based on countless reports, Dark Avengers is among them. Now, a movie like that doesn't need to have Norman Osborn in it ,but it would certainly help and if this is something Feige had planned, you have to believe it's now been scrapped.

There was no mention of the wall-crawler at Comic-Con, but seeds for the Dark Avengers could have been planted in at least some of the Phase 4 movies and TV shows, while common sense says that another Spider-Man movie would have been added to the slate for a 2021 release.

We may never know what might have been, but Spider-Man's disappearance will send ripples through the MCU.

Can Spider-Man Survive Without The MCU?

Sony definitely ran the wall-crawler into the ground before partnering with Marvel Studios, but Venom was a box office hit and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - made independently of Marvel - won an Oscar. While it's easy to imagine scenarios where the next Spider-Man movie is as messy as The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Sony could easily continue this story without any references to the MCU.

The MCU will certainly survive without Spidey, and there's no reason to think that Spidey can't survive without the MCU. Things are definitely going to be different, but the character isn't doomed...yet.

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OmegaDaGrodd - 8/27/2019, 3:03 AM

Mackie and Stan refusing to break character even in the midst of that particular topic is so damn hilarious.

bkmeijer2 - 8/27/2019, 3:03 AM

The thing I'm gonna miss most is the bickering of Stan and Anthony with Tom.

dracula - 8/27/2019, 3:09 AM

Well now they have everything back, except for Spider-Man. Seriously they could always do what they did with the Fantastic 4, when they didn't like what Fox was doing with them, but Spider-Man is too big for them to do that. Hopefully Sony sells their film division soon, it can go to Universal or Warner Brothers, then Disney will get Spiderman back.

Kurne - 8/27/2019, 3:14 AM

With that Mackie and Stan comment, I'm pretty sure they weren't even talking about the Sony/Disney situation. Mackie just randomly mentioned Tom when he was joking about something else. I'll check the video again.

Jeight8 - 8/27/2019, 3:14 AM

There have been hints in twitter from people who have given inside scoops before that Rothman and Arad had a pivotal part on ruining this and more info comes out they will look like fools.

https://twitter.com/Mitch692/status/1166066720601231361

Now, i know they are the easy targets and Disney definitely has a share in the blame as well but is anyone really suprised about this at this point. I'm so done with those hacks runing cb properties. Kinberg, Rothman, Perlmutter, Arad. They should be [frick]ing snapped.

Kumkani - 8/27/2019, 3:15 AM

I agree wholeheartedly with you, Elizabeth Olsen.

Now will you marry me?

Jeight8 - 8/27/2019, 3:20 AM

@Necropolitan - Tough luck man. She's engaged.

Nebula - 8/27/2019, 4:28 AM

@Jeight8 - To me!

sneakybastard - 8/27/2019, 3:23 AM

Hopefully backdoor diplomatic channels are being used still.

OptimusGrime - 8/27/2019, 3:31 AM

Meh im over this now. We had a good run. Im happy we got to see a great run of spiderman movies and adaptations and cameos. We all know Sony will probably botch up the job now but ..like splitting from a partner..we have to let go. For now at least. They did it for the fans previously and obviously now all they see are dollar signs and neither can see past the monetary value unfortunately. Hey...remember what Vision said guys...

tmp3 - 8/27/2019, 3:32 AM

@Jeight8 - Mitch is one of the clowns from comicbookcast2, and Jeremy Conrad is a man-baby. They're the last sources you should cite.

OptimusGrime - 8/27/2019, 3:52 AM

@OptimusGrime - I win the internet. Plus this site is a convoluted , slow, ad based, non replying mess nowadays. GET IT SORTED!

AgentSmith - 8/27/2019, 4:42 AM

I first have to say - Kudos to Josh for not turning this into 4 separate articles with each one embedded as a secondary article for what would be an infinity loop (although how many previous articles are we going to embed?). However, my $.02 which will only sit at the bottom of the well without any wishes is a "wait and see"??? Sony did make Spider-man 2, which is still in my top 5 all time favorite CBMs... Sure, the last few runs were not that great, but with the right people helming it (if that actually happens, I know in my job if I continue to put out products that stink I would get fired) and given that an example makes it clear that some formulas actually work - it could get redeemed. Lots of IFs in there, but it isn't like SONY is new at this game. They could use a good game changer... Will miss you spidey!

Battleready73 - 8/27/2019, 4:55 AM

This was a mistake from the very beginning. Out of all the characters Marvel they shouldn't have when out an got Spider man. It was on it's last leg I think Kevin was in a rush to introduce a famous character. I wouldn't help in other studio get on it's feet. If the shoe was reversed believe they wouldn't gave a crap about Marvel. They didn't give a crap when they put out that crappy Venom and they still not asking for help. I hope Kevin has learn his lesson. Let Sony destroy their own company stick with Marvel it's been good so far without borrowing a thing.

thewanderer - 8/27/2019, 5:05 AM

Has anyone noticed that this tweet from James Gunn doesn't actually exist on his twitter feed?

IKidYouNotMan - 8/27/2019, 6:25 AM

@thewanderer - that’s because the comment is from Instagram, grandpa.

Sympatico - 8/27/2019, 5:05 AM

@tbh, I`m sick of all the low-level contributers.

@battleready: Please, learn english, educate yourself and THEN:SPEAK.

See you, battlehorse, in 20 years, you won`t be ready, never.

You got work to do, study, read books, not pictures, then come back. Still too late for an educated opinion.

Really sad what this site had become.

Matador - 8/27/2019, 5:30 AM

I hope Disney/Marvel buys Sony Film Division then fire all the big wigs just for spite!

soberchimera - 8/27/2019, 5:49 AM

So, basically, "Tom is great" "It's sad he's gone."

Ha1frican - 8/27/2019, 5:59 AM

The importance of the character and what happened with James Gunn are making me hold out hope they’ll come to a deal before this is all said and done. I’m really hoping we are just seeing a very public negotiation with both sides trying to swing public sentiments to gain the upper hand. Ultimately if this is the end of Spidey in the MCU then it’s the end of my support for the character. No Spiderman 3, No Spiderverse, and certainly no Venomverse shit will be supported by me. If it does stay this way that’s a real shame bc we were so close to having all the toys back in the toy box

Reeds2Much - 8/27/2019, 6:16 AM

Sony ruining the third Spider-movie seems to be one of those universal constants.

Ha1frican - 8/27/2019, 6:22 AM

@Reeds2Much - isn’t it odd to think we’ve had 3 Spiderman 2’s and are going to have 2 Spiderman 3’s?

Sympatico - 8/27/2019, 6:35 AM

@Ha1frican

I think Sony and Disnwy qill change both their strategies because they cannot afford you jumping ship and not being ok with it. After all, you are such a big name in the business.

I did not like Marvels take on Spidey, in the omics his world, friend and love interests, are totally different people.

Sam Raimi did not deliver as well, Tobey was too chunky, he did not look the character - I do not like Jack Nichloson because he is a fat Joker.

I am stll waiting for a comic-accurate depiction of Spidey. Holland was cast well, good age, but his freind, hence his Spidey.world, is an aspect they simply got wrong.

I like Peter`s fat friend, but not in the Spiedey-movies. He has no business being there. Feige pulled a RUIN JOHNSON and I call it.

JRM1995 - 8/27/2019, 6:39 AM

Good Sony stood up to that Monopoly Disney and their Greed. What's wrong Disney? Didn't get your way this time? Perhaps now we'll get the real Spider-man and not some MCU Stark creation that isn't the character at all.

Make no mistake, the fault lies with Disney on this one.

marvel72 - 8/27/2019, 6:53 AM

They should have made a third movie and at the end they could have had Spider-Man say something along the lines of I have to go,there is multiple earth's that their Spider-Man's are being killed off, I have to help. I don't know if I will be back.

Jumps into a portal, Spidey gone from MCU.

Then speed up the process of introducing The Fantastic Four and The X-Men.

regularmovieguy - 8/27/2019, 6:59 AM

@Jeight8

Jeremy Conrad doesn’t know shit 😂

Goldboink - 8/27/2019, 7:10 AM

Even with the bad critical reviews and everything Sony was making money from Spiderman. They would have continued to crank out bad movies ad infinitum. I think that Feige and the folks at Marvel just wanted to have their most iconic character done right and get him in the story. Now that they have done that woe be it to Sony if it makes a turd movie. While Spidey was good and all that he was always kind of stand alone and not a team guy so having him inhabit his own universe is not that much of a drag.

USAgent716 - 8/27/2019, 7:25 AM

I hope Sony takes this momentum and keeps trucking along and make a better Spiderman movie than the two mediocre MCU ones. Either have Brock move back to NY, or try something different, and have Spidey move to San Fran. Either way, I still can’t believe the shameless/greed fueled power move Disney tried here. They must have just assumed Sony would bend the knee, given how Spidey’s last MCU appearance went.

sKeemAn - 8/27/2019, 7:41 AM

Now I want to see Tom Holland in the Falcon and WS series. smh, *sigh* it will never happen.

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DAREDEVIL: Ben Affleck's 2003 Marvel Movie Gets A Surprise Disney+ Premiere Date

SUPERGIRL Star David Harewood Has Reportedly Been Cast In STAR WARS: THE ACOLYTE In Mystery Role

VENOM WAR Details And Teaser Reveal Marvel Comics' Plan For A Symbiote Showdown To Decide The New Venom

SNOW WHITE: Rumored Details On The Seven "Dwarfs" & Rachel Zegler's "More Independent" Princess

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Concept Art Reveals A Surprising New Design For A "Junkyard" Vulture

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MADAME WEB Star Sydney Sweeney Responds To Producer Who Said "She's Not Pretty, She Can't Act"

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Sci-Fi & Fantasy

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Cartoons & Animated Features

TRANSFORMERS ONE Character Posters Highlight The Movie's Divisive Animation Style

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TRANSFORMERS ONE Trailer Reveals The Origins Of Optimus Prime And Megatron

Gaming

DIABLO Lead Rod Fergusson On The Possibility Of A TV Series Adaptation

Bethesda's Todd Howard On What's Next: ELDER SCROLLS VI, FALLOUT 5, And STARFIELD

THE WITCHER Has Been Renewed AND Canceled As Season 5 Is Confirmed To Be The Show's Last

Anime & Manga

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Horror

ABIGAIL Spoilers: Find Out What Happens - And Who Shows Up - In New Horror Comedy

TRAP: First Trailer For M. Night Shyamalan's Latest Spoils The Big Twist

IMMACULATE Star Sydney Sweeney Has Been Slammed By A Hollywood Producer: "She's Not Pretty, She Can't Act"

Action Movies & TV

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