@LEVITIKUZ -

@JustAChillDude - got to the tank truck and negative world fights. It was really cool

@CurlyBill - I disagree. I feel that what makes the game works is you genuinely see the good side to Otto & you spend so much time with how where you are invested in him & don’t want him to turn evil

It’s like The Dark Knight. We all knew Harvey would become Two-Face & we get invested in Harvey so when the moment comes, it’s hard hitting

Also Telltale did this well with Two-Face. Hell every decision I took in the game, I did so with the intention of stopping Harvey from turning into Two-Face.

@CurlyBill - I see where you're coming from but I wouldn't say Peter and Toomes had that kind of dynamic at all. Sure he was a father, but he wasn't a father figure. That's Tony.

@LEVITIKUZ - I fully agree with you. The characters that were straight up villains in this game I just didn't care/feel anything for. Kingpin, and most of the Sinister Six were cool, but an obstacle. Same for Tombstone, and Taskmaster (although, they were cool to see). Shocker was a fun treat, but again was no emotional value...

The only two were Martin Li, and Doc Ock. Martin Li because you could see where he is coming from, and wish he would go about things another way. Unfortunately he was too far gone, and you begin to wonder how much of your time with him (in the game) was a facade, and how much was real? Doc Ock on the other hand I felt a deeper connection to, and he just felt warmer. Like Peter (even though I knew better based off of how many villainous Doc Ocks we've had in the past) I was saddened (because as Peter put it, "he threw it all away" for petty revenge), and when that thing happened with Aunt May, I was pissed at him.

Funny thing is that both men became villains due to another corrupt man (Osborn) who was also consumed by his own darkness. I see this Norman as a kind of "ends justify the means" kind of character who refuses to see the bigger picture. Plus as shown early on when he pulls funding from a company (not gonna spoil) you could see how egotistical, and narcissistic he is when he throws his power irresponsibly in the face of Doc Ock (another point of contention for their fractured relationship) that's not even touching upon the final confrontation between the two before the big final boss battle where Norman Osborn basically spits in the face of Doctor Otto Octavius.

Basically the TLDR: I agree with you, I like what they chose to do here (and are keeping on choosing to do here). If I had to pick between a cartoon villain of some person 'twirling their proverbial mustache' while being evil for the sake of being evil versus a formally good person (or even just a misguided anti-villain) being evil because that how they world chewed them up, and spat them out? I would go for the later because I find that more interesting. I mean it's so easy to have a basic Good Vs Evil. Just look at religion(s) for that trope. It's so primitive, and played out to the point of being white noise in storytelling. That's the one that makes me roll my eyes.