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FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/26/2021, 8:47 AM
I was actually mostly fine with how Venom looked in the finished movie. Venom/Brock being a huge roidrage monster is not a dealbreaker for me and the seed of an idea Raimi had with making them more clear evil reflection of Spider-Man/Peter was pretty good one. Removing the Venom-face, to give Grace more facetime, and making the character overall so shallow was where they went wrong.
Kingdork
Kingdork - 5/26/2021, 8:47 AM
I think Topher Grace as Brock was fiiiine. I mean he's basically modelled after Ultimate Eddie Brock the same way Sam Jackson is modelled after Ultimate Nick Fury (who was modelled after Sam Jackson to begin with). They just stick the overall origin story of the original 616 Brock on him. So yeah he's a mix of two source material.

But Venom plainly sucked from the design, to his lack of personality and screeching sounds.
Stinkor1
Stinkor1 - 5/26/2021, 8:53 AM
Venom looked great. Very McFarlane feel to him.


Topher sucked hard though as Brock. Very miscast.
tripttwe
tripttwe - 5/27/2021, 10:05 PM
@Stinkor1 - I felt Venom looked meh. Very un-McFarlane like.
PC04
PC04 - 5/26/2021, 8:54 AM
What'd they do to my boy?!
KWilly
KWilly - 5/26/2021, 8:54 AM



m1doriya
m1doriya - 5/26/2021, 8:54 AM
The unused total black suit looked like a porn parody version



The movie's textured black suit is perfect imo
The1st
The1st - 5/26/2021, 11:07 AM
@m1doriya - I get that some people love it, but to me it was just a color swap. Playing it safe and downright lazy. It was from a time when we were happy with anything remotely comic book accurate, or an easter egg in general. So I guess maybe it was a sign of the times. It isn't something that would happen today, you'd get something more accurate. I say this of course after watching the iron spider for multiple MCU films, but I think the black would be done justice this go round.
m1doriya
m1doriya - 5/26/2021, 11:37 AM
@The1st - it wasn't just a color swap, it has different symbol, eyes etc. and it looked great in action. Imagine the unused total black suit at night, we would hardly see anything.







MCU Spider-Man isn't accurate at all, so I doubt it
The1st
The1st - 5/26/2021, 11:41 AM
@m1doriya - Like I said, my opinion. It's not very imaginative to me.

WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/26/2021, 9:05 AM
I didn’t care for Spidey’s black suit in the movie. Raimi and Sony had a chance to bring his iconic black suit to life and fumbled it by a lazy repainting of an already existing suit.
VileBlood
VileBlood - 5/26/2021, 9:53 AM
@WruceBayne - "had a chance to bring his iconic black suit to life and fumbled it by a lazy repainting of an already existing suit."
tripttwe
tripttwe - 5/26/2021, 10:23 AM
@WruceBayne - THIS
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/26/2021, 10:31 AM
@obredaan - 🤨
MrMediocre
MrMediocre - 5/26/2021, 10:45 AM
@WruceBayne - except it wouldn't have made much sense.

The reason why the Symbiote took the appearance it did, was because Peter thought he should try a new look, and thought that the Julia Carpenter Spider-Woman suit looked cool, so the Symbiote stole the design.

Since Secret Wars and Spider-Woman didn't exist in the Tobey-verse, it made sense for the Symbiote to try and recreate what Spider-Man was used to, albeit in it's limited color palette.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/26/2021, 10:52 AM
@MrMediocre - yeah I get what you’re saying but if you can make a man out of sand make sense then you could’ve come up with a way of a simple costume change
The1st
The1st - 5/26/2021, 11:11 AM
@MrMediocre - Interesting, yes, but that doesn't explain why the symbol is still basically present on Venom at the end of the film.
Blergh
Blergh - 5/26/2021, 9:07 AM
I really liked the aesthetic of the Raimi movies but I'll admit that both casting and final design didn't work.
I think SM3 is a product of Raimi passively retaliating against Sony. Corporate pushed him to use the character for sales and he ended up giving them the most corporate take on the character (uninformed, played by a hot in demand but unfit actor).

Anything regarding Venom and Sonys relationship with the character is calculated
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 5/26/2021, 9:12 AM
Black suit looked great in a action. Shame Venom was so underwhelming.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 5/26/2021, 9:34 AM
Symbiote and black suit Spider-Man and venom were all terribly done in Spider-Man 3. Kind of wish the studio didn’t force raimi to use a villain that he didn’t want.
AtakanKaratas
AtakanKaratas - 5/26/2021, 10:00 AM
This film is good and even though it is the worst of the trilogy it has a special place in my heart. Has some very memorable sequences and a killer soundtrack. Venom and Black suit Spidey looked great in action too. I was fine with most of the designs.

I mean look at this beauty right here.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 5/26/2021, 10:17 AM
Venom design was fine. Topher acting was bad
HeeroG
HeeroG - 5/26/2021, 10:24 AM
Most of those designs with the mouth piece open or different are probably refrences for diferent stages of the transformation and would be enhanced by CGI in post-production...
After so many years you guys (Josh Wilding) still don't know how CGI works?
valmic
valmic - 5/26/2021, 10:45 AM
Topher should have been Spider-Man. He basically was Peter Parker in 70s show along with his girlfriend being the hot red head Mary Jane.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 5/26/2021, 11:53 AM
Topher could have totally pulled off Venom, but the way the wrote him was just so lame. He might not have been the best Eddie Brock but he sounded about perfect compared to how I read Venom's voice. I still forget that scene where he's in the cab, that's almost ripped right out of Michelinie/MacFarlane Spidey! I know Raimi didn't care for Venom but I've read he came around on him some, and I think there's some minute details that show some love for him in the finished product. Spider-man 3 is definitely the weakest of the trilogy but it's also not as bad as it's made out to be.
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