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fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 10/6/2020, 12:05 PM
I really don’t want the multiverse to be the focus of Spidey 3 or the MCU. Keep it in Doctor Strange. I want to see Peter struggle with his identity being revealed as it’s not something that has been done before(even in the comics it’s only been touched on a bit). Have Janie Foxx simply play a new version of Electro native to the MCU. Don’t over complicate it.
Amuro
Amuro - 10/6/2020, 12:19 PM
@fanboy03191 - I don't know why but I fear that Peter might be saved from the press coverage by one of his alternate incarnations posing as Spider-man while he's in front of cameras. The new statut-quo at the end was one of the only good things to come out from Far From Home, I really don't want it to be undone that easily.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/6/2020, 12:23 PM
@fanboy03191 - ''Don’t over complicate it.''

The reason the MCU is so big is because it's so digestible for the GA. No way Marvel is gonna do anything that complicated.
Luigi
Luigi - 10/6/2020, 1:11 PM
@fanboy03191 - I don't know about Spider-verse but I really doubt this will be just Spider-Man vs Electro, since we've already seen that
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/6/2020, 12:20 PM
I doubt any of these will happen in a big way. Aside from some Spider-Man characters, I doubt we will see any familiar faces from other timelines. The one other timeline I do want to see is the alternate 2014 one (maybe Kang's origin point).

And the Fantastic Four should just have their origin in the present day MCU. Ant-Man and the Wasp already did the trapped in the Quantum Realm stuff. I can see their power originate from there, but not really a lot more.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 10/6/2020, 12:23 PM
@bkmeijer - It’d be tough but I want the X-Men to be originated in the MCU. Maybe Xavier wiped the knowledge from everyone’s minds or something. Idk.
SKetCH
SKetCH - 10/6/2020, 2:01 PM
@fanboy03191 -

This is what I've always wanted.
Portray Xavier as the most powerful psychic on Earth (allowing the build-up and worry for Jean's overabundance of power) and showcase that he's used his incredible power to hide his school and the existence of mutants from the entire planet.
The strain of this use of power can be the reason he's in a wheelchair.
This form of mutant power wouldn't have been detectable by Stark-type technology so that helps explain an established world within their own bubble so we don't have to do the origins again.
This can also allow their story to dive into the internal battle of "exactly what else can Prof. X do with his powers and how many of his students actually joined him under their own free will? A lot of emotion and drama to be had within the X-world.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 10/6/2020, 2:31 PM
@SKetCH - The snap could’ve accelerated mutation in humans. But still have mutants as always being there.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/6/2020, 3:45 PM
@fanboy03191 - I would prefer the collective mind wipe over the snap causing (accelarated) mutations.

The Snap could be the thing to draw them out of hiding though, although I rather see it as a consequence of their own actions.
SKetCH
SKetCH - 10/6/2020, 4:07 PM
@bkmeijer -
I agree, the mind wipe/block is way better than the snap "creating" mutants.
I could get behind Xavier having been snapped, the mind wipe/block gets turned off for the 5yrs while he's gone, and when everyone returns it activates the x-gene in a far greater number of the population than when they blipped, making it difficult to get the world under control again... not to mention the new mutants (hardy har har) born during the 5yr gap and those who exposed themselves during Xavier's absence blowing their cover...

But the blip can't be the reason we have mutants.

Them having been here "hiding" under Xavier's powers the whole time is perfectly in line with mutants' analogy to society and one's acceptance within it. The perfect parallel for Magneto and his followers growing tired of hiding in the shadows and feeling superior rather than equal or lesser than.
JonC
JonC - 10/6/2020, 4:38 PM
@fanboy03191 - The theory i have put forth from the beginning, years ago now, was that the FF, Xmen, Ghost Rider, whatever the MCU now has access to could make an appearance via the multiverse for whatever cameo Marvel would like to honor prior actors with and then they could still recast them in the primary universe. I proposed this Garfield, Holland, Tobey situation years ago with only 1 being in the primary MCU and others helping out as needed and when allowed.
JonC
JonC - 10/6/2020, 4:41 PM
@SKetCH - Yep, Xavier has been hiding them the whole time... and the 'snap' actually caused Xavier to momentarily lose control over that situation to where some mutants starting appearing in the MCU. Hence when Scarlet Witch summons her brother... she actually gets the Foxverse version of him.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/7/2020, 12:52 AM
@SKetCH - I can actually see it happen that the Snap/Blip causes Xavier to lose control (whether he dies or lives).

But I rather see something as a consequence of what they do themselves. For example to defeat a threat to the mutants they have no choice but to expose themselves to the world.
Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 10/6/2020, 12:27 PM
Both worried and excited for the prospect of the MCU incorporating past live action universes. Could turn out great and either not have that big of an impact, or will be a large impact handled well. Also worried could be the jumping the shark for the MCU. Sure it’ll be handled better than Flashpoint tho
CurlyBill
CurlyBill - 10/6/2020, 12:29 PM
I hope Jamie Foxx is a new incarnation of Electro and doesn't have anything to do with the multiverse. The idea of a multiverse is a cool concept, but if not properly handled it can give way to lazy storytelling and shoehorned fan service. Foxx is a great actor and I wouldn't mind a diffrent take on Max Dillon that was more in common with Bats from Baby Driver then the riddler from Batman Forever.

JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/6/2020, 1:20 PM
@CurlyBill - Looking back on it, TASM really did us dirty with spidey villains. gave us boring, CGI-heavy iterations of lizard and electro with a rushed or failed attempt each time to connect their story to peter's.

the best part of spidey vilains is they're connection to peter, which HC and FFH did well. despite all the complaints abt iron man's connection at least it felt natural instead of whatever the hell TASM2 did with electro
KWilly
KWilly - 10/6/2020, 12:34 PM
"Where have the Fantastic Four been all this time?"

This is where that 5 year time gap in Endgame can come into play. In that 5 years, you can say the F4 got their powers, built up their name and became somewhat well known explorers/heroes.

You don't have to bring them from another universe. Definitely don't have be from another time period. Just have them already be here. It's that simple.

Now the X-Men on the other hand...

TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/6/2020, 12:49 PM
I’d rather the multiverse not become the focus of the MCU...
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/6/2020, 12:51 PM
I'm really only interested in 2 things:

-Desolate futures
-Heroes reborn

Exploring crazy futures is always one of my favorite things in longform storytelling. I was actually pretty sad we didn't truly get any of that in Endgame because that was a great opportunity for it

Heroes reborn is also a cool idea but I wouldn't want that until waaaaaayyyyy down the line, and only if it makes sense to do that rather than rebooting the entire MCU

I don't want any stain from the Fox-Men or previous Spider-Man entries (even the good parts of the Raimi trilogy) and I also really don't feel we need some crazy excuse for the FF to be who they are. This can all be pretty simple if the next phases allow things to progress in loose connection without feeling the need to tie things TOO closely together
GhostDog
GhostDog - 10/6/2020, 1:03 PM
DO NOT WANT. I'd keep the multiverse exclusive to WandaVision and Doc Strange 2.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 10/6/2020, 1:06 PM
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/6/2020, 1:11 PM
i'm torn with what i think they should do with the future of black panther. i truly feel like t'challa's story has so much potential to continue in the MCU but i know they need to put respect on chadwick's memory.

even though the likely choice they make will either be passing of the mantle with shuri or alternate reality, i kind of hope they manage to continue our T'Challa's story without compromising chadwick's take. the mcu needs a black panther for both their world and to inspire in the real world. shit i really hope coogler crafts something that works.
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