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L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 8/12/2020, 7:44 AM
Kraven's Last Hunt is absolutely essential reading for anyone looking for a good Spider-Man story.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 8/12/2020, 8:00 AM
@L0RDbuckethead - Kraven's obsession in Last Hunt makes little sense without reading his previous attempts, so I'd argue it's only essential as the finale of a longer storyline.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 8/12/2020, 7:48 AM
But Was Resurrected And Now Can't Be Killed

While convoluted and contrived, thankfully Spencer undid that slop.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/12/2020, 7:50 AM
Although I kinda expect to see Scorpion or Shocker return (although they can be saved for a Sinister Six), Kraven would be a very interesting villain to see. Especially because in no way they can relate him to Iron Man and thus will be a true Spider-Man villain
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 8/12/2020, 7:53 AM
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/12/2020, 8:34 AM
@MosquitoFarmer - Love this movie
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/12/2020, 7:59 AM
Josh a damn Gen Ed course with these “what you need to know” articles
Finalshowdown
Finalshowdown - 8/12/2020, 7:59 AM
I think Kraven will bust some other villains (Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker) out of prison to get Parker to come out of hiding and then do the whole hunt, drug and bury Spidey thing. Then, he would pose as a hero and go after the villains he unleashed, but Spidey would (obviously) return to spoil that plan and expose him as the villain (taking down the others as well). Would work nicely if that involved JJJ arming Scorpion somehow, and he’s eventually discredited for his involvement. Still think this will be Home for the Holidays. Peter is in hiding (Stark cabin) at first, then is able to come home after clearing his name...
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 8/12/2020, 8:39 AM
@Finalshowdown - I'm not sure busting those three out of prison would be the best way to go. It remains unclear what Vulture wants to do to Peter. He might even help him for all we know.

I'm all for them using Scorpion though. Someone turning Gargan into Scorpion to hunt down Spidey only for it to backfire would be a great story.
I'm just not sure it should be Jameson as we barely know him in the MCU. (Also I doubt he'll have any significant role in future movies. I think it's more likely that he'll only appear on billboards, TV screens and podcasts.)
Wouldn't it be more likely that someone like Thunderbolt Ross would create Scorpion? Maybe as a test run for the Thunderbolts.

IMO Kraven and Scorpion are the best candidates for villains in Spider-Man 3.
After that they can do the Sinister Six and/or set up Norman Osborn as a future antagonist.
Finalshowdown
Finalshowdown - 8/12/2020, 9:13 AM
@ChrisRed - JJJ had a hand in creating Scorpion in the comics.
Finalshowdown
Finalshowdown - 8/12/2020, 9:22 AM
I think a good way to introduce Osborn would be for him to have privatized the Accords Task Force, vowing to do better than Stark and sets his sights on Parker who “wants to be the new Iron Man”. He hires Kraven and orchestrates things from the shadows. He would only have to be in a scene or two, keeping Kraven and Scorpion the main villains. I think Osborn threatening Vulture’s family would be a way to get him to go against Peter again. I see all these villains not trusting each other when they eventually form the Sinister Six.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 8/12/2020, 10:05 AM
@Finalshowdown - I know JJJ and Farley Stillwell created Scorpion in the comics but I don't think Jameson's involvement in it would make sense at this point in the MCU.

Norman creating Scorpion could also work. Maybe to get a sample of Spidey's DNA.

However I think it would be better to introduce Norman in a second trilogy that chronicles Peter's college years. Peter could meet Harry and Gwen at that point meaning that Norman wouldn't be far behind.
Then they could build him up throughout Spider-Man 4 and 5 before pitting Spidey against Green Goblin in Spider-Man 6.
Finalshowdown
Finalshowdown - 8/12/2020, 10:37 AM
@ChrisRed - I think a cool subplot for SM3 would be something like JJJ had the crackpot Stilwell guy on his show at some point, discussing how his research could match the abilities of Spidey in a willing test subject. Osborn, knowing Gargan holds a grudge against Peter and knowing JJJ wants endless Spidey stories, orchestrates the prison break, launders the Scorpion suit funding through JJJ (never has to be proven), who then introduces Gargan to Stillwell. Peter’s friends (MJ, Betty, Ned, Flash) role in the film could be to help Peter by helping to discredit JJJ for his alleged involvement. All very minimal screen time for JJJ/Osborn. It’s fun to come up with these scenarios. Some lucky joker somewhere gets paid to do it.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 8/13/2020, 2:25 AM
@Finalshowdown - You are right, it is a lot of fun coming up with ideas for sequels.

Whatever the circumstances around who creates him, I just hope that Scorpion will be in SM3. He, Kraven and Chameleon are the only major Spidey villains never to appear in movies.
Finalshowdown
Finalshowdown - 8/13/2020, 6:43 AM
@ChrisRed - Me too. Really hope we get a second trilogy with Peter in college. I remember Feige originally envisioning Spidey like how WB did the Harry Potter movies for every school year, so I hope Disney/Sony keep making MCU movies together. I don’t even care if they tie them into the Sony-verse. Just give us a cinematic Spidey series with Holland for at least as long as RDJ did Iron Man and I’ll be happy.
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