THE SUICIDE SQUAD: James Gunn Admits He Doesn't Know Which Superman Bloodsport Shot In The DCEU

The trailer for The Suicide Squad confirmed that Bloodshot put Superman in the ICU with a Kryptonite bullet, but director James Gunn has admitted he doesn't know if that was Henry Cavill's Man of Steel.

By JoshWilding - Jun 24, 2021 02:06 AM EST

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Believe it or not, there are a lot of DC fans upset with the reveal in The Suicide Squad trailer that Bloodsport was able to put Superman in the hospital with a Kryptonite bullet. That actually happened in the comic books, so it's not like James Gunn is poking fun at the Man of Steel just for the hell of it!

Regardless, there's been a lot of speculation about whether this could lead to a cameo from Henry Cavill, but seeing as the actor appears to be done with Superman, we're not banking on it.

In fact, a recent interview with IGN saw Gunn reveal that even he doesn't know which version of Superman it was that Bloodsport gunned down because it's a decision that is way above his pay grade.

"So yes, Bloodsport is in prison for putting Superman into the ICU with a kryptonite bullet," the filmmaker explained. "Yes, The Suicide Squad is a part of the DCEU, but I don't know which Superman it was because I don't cast the next Superman. So it could be Henry [Cavill], it could be somebody else. It's whoever people decide on other than me."

That's a good answer, especially with so much uncertainty surrounding Superman's big screen future.

In related news, Gunn recently took to Instagram to answer some questions from fans, and revealed he "definitely would" take the helm of a solo movie starring Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn if the opportunity were to present itself. Whether that's in the cards after Birds of Prey obviously remains to be seen.

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10. Poison Ivy

The last time we saw Poison Ivy on the big screen, Uma Therman was hamming it up as the villain in the abysmal Batman & Robin. A faithful take on this character – whose desire to save the world’s plant life as an ecoterrorist of sorts is more relevant today than ever – is without a doubt long overdue, and this Harley Quinn movie is perhaps the perfect place to bring her back.

The dynamic between Harley and Ivy is well worth exploring, and that's particularly the case due to recent comic books confirming that their relationship is a romantic one.

Delving into that would be a big step forward for the genre, while it just so happens to be something fans have been desperate to see for years now. That aside, Ivy is a great character in her own right, and someone with a tonne of potential to really shine in an upcoming DC Comics movie.

9. Wacky Weapons

Harley certainly had her fair share of unique weapons in Birds of Prey, but they were all pretty grounded, and taking things down a sillier route now wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.

From "Ha-Ha" knuckle-dusters to oversized guns, realism really should be thrown out of the window here for the sake of doing this fan-favourite anti-hero justice on the big screen. After all, the reason DC Universe's animated series is so popular is because it embraces Harley's crazy world.

A Harley Quinn movie doesn't need to go too over the top (to the point where it's not remotely realistic), but let the character have fun with some of the weapons fans love from the comics.

8. Ties To The Wider DC Extended Universe

Birds of Prey referenced the events of Suicide Squad, but only in a very vague way. Beyond her broken relationship with The Joker, you'd never know that Harley hated Amanda Waller or struck up an unlikely friendship (and potential romance) with Deadshot.

The best we got was a nod to the fact Harley recognised Captain Boomerang, and while the DC Extended Universe is growing increasingly standalone in nature, we'd hope that a Harley Quinn movie like this wouldn't be quite as cut off from this world as Birds of Prey.

For starters, it should absolutely tie into James Gunn's The Suicide Squad in some way, while also acknowledging Harley's history that we have seen on screen...and some we haven't too.

7. The Classic Costume

This was spotted in Suicide Squad, but that's about as close as the DC Extended Universe has ever really got to using it. It may not be the most realistic costume from the comic books, but that blink and you'd miss it moment with Harley dancing alongside The Joker proves that it a) works on screen, and b) would look pretty damn cool to boot.

We're not even suggesting Harley wears this for an entire movie, but getting to see Margot Robbie's take on the character kicking butt while decked out in it would be welcomed by fans.

Perhaps this is something we could see in flashbacks? After all, Harley's time terrorising Gotham City alongside the Clown Prince of Crime has only ever been addressed on a surface level.

6. Putting The Guys In Their Place

One of the most enjoyable parts of Harley Quinn’s adventures is seeing her put guys like Batman and Green Arrow in their place. The take no nonsense anti-hero doesn’t hesitate to run circles around them both physically and verbally, and that’s something which needs to make it into this movie.

Birds of Prey sort of went down this route, but spent the entire movie emphasising the fact that men are terrible. That's actually kind of true, but it alienated some viewers and was too heavy-handed.

There are ways to address sexism and feminism meaningfully, without it feeling over the top and actually making it fun. Hence, we'd like to see her outsmart heroes like the ones mentioned above.

5. Plenty Of Humour

Suicide Squad had a lot of humour shoehorned into it, and that's why director David Ayer is now pushing Warner Bros. to #ReleaseTheAyerCut of his 2016 movie. Birds of Prey delivered a lot of laughs, of course, but it wasn't quite as funny as movies like Thor: Ragnarok and Deadpool.

Bringing in some female comedy writers for this spinoff would be a smart move, and the first true DC Extended Universe comedy might open up a lot of new storytelling avenues to Warner Bros.

Dedicating an entire movie to Harley Quinn getting over a breakup was a solid way to help her move on from The Joker, but it didn't lead to a lot of laughs, and arguably wasn't the best way to approach a story revolving around this character. She's a fun and weird personality, and while Harley deserves an impactful storyline, a movie more in line with Deadpool's would be better.

4. Bring Back The Birds Of Prey

As we mentioned, we loved Birds of Prey here at CBM, and while it did sort of drop the ball on giving characters like Huntress and Black Canary the screentime they deserve, we do want to see more of them. A spinoff of their own makes sense, but bringing them back here would be welcomed.

Chances are it would be a minor role, of course, but seeing Harley confront Green Arrow and Black Canary, for example, could lead to a fun exchange, and a pretty badass fight scene to boot.

If nothing else, this Harley Quinn movie could reintroduce the Birds of Prey to audiences in a big way, and reboot them to an extent so they're more in line with their comic book counterparts.

3. Batgirl

Thinking about all of the great female DC Comics characters who could show up here, a very long list of names come to mind. However, Barbara Gordon definitely needs to be included in some way.

Like fellow Batman & Robin character Poison Ivy, it’s about time Batgirl returns to the big screen, and while she's deserving of her own movie, she could be used here similar to Colossus in Deadpool. The Merc with the Mouth was at his best with a straight man like that or Cable, and the same could be the case with Harley as she finds herself forced to work alongside this sidekick.

While using her here in her Oracle persona (Barbara was left in a wheelchair after being shot by The Joker and went on to provide both the Birds of Prey and Batman with intel from their base) has some potential, Batgirl is arguably far more essential to the DCEU right now.

2. A PG-13 Rating This Time

The decision to give Birds of Prey an R-Rating really didn't pay off for Warner Bros. Like Deadpool, Harley Quinn works well in that setting, but she's also massively popular with younger moviegoers, particularly teenage girls. From a business perspective alone, that makes sense, and it definitely seemed like that R-Rated tone didn't do these characters that many favours.

Harley doesn't need a face full of cocaine or a long list of F-bombs to be funny and crazy, and while putting her in a family friendly setting might feel like a step backwards, look how well Thor's reinvention worked in Thor: Ragnarok; with the right creative team working on a project like this, Harley could be amusing, potentially push the boundaries, and remain compelling.

This rating might just be needed to convince a lot of moviegoers to give the character another chance, because one more disappointment, and Harley's time on screen could reach its end.

1. The Joker

The decision to have Harley Quinn break up with The Joker was a completely understandable one, and there's really no need for the character to be trapped in what is truly an abusive relationship.

However, making the Clown Prince of Crime on off-screen presence didn't really work, and the end to their relationship could have played out far more effectively had she been able to come face to face with him. With that in mind, a cameo here which could be a flashback or excuse for Harley to kick her ex-Puddin's ass, reuniting them on screen has plenty of potential.

It's not the biggest priority in all honesty, but it feels like there are better ways to wrap things up between these two and it Harley could get proper closure by physically putting him in his place.

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UltimaRex - 6/24/2021, 2:44 AM

Cavill until WB says otherwise then.

mastakilla39 - 6/24/2021, 7:56 AM

But if DC is a multiverse, how do we know which Superman is which? Is the Superman in Man of Steel the same as BVS, JL, ZSJL, Shazam? Or is each of them different? Is WW84 wonder woman the same as WW 2017 and BVS....probably not and DC can probably "write out" any poor sequels with bad reception.

LSHF - 6/24/2021, 8:44 AM

@UltimaRex - Sounds good to me. Until they introduce another Superman, he's the only one.

aresww3 - 6/24/2021, 9:00 AM

@UltimaRex - Complete trash. Doesn't work with the timeline.

UltimaRex - 6/24/2021, 2:16 PM

@aresww3 - what timeline?

dracula - 6/24/2021, 2:45 AM

Probably just said to calm down the cult of snyder (despite the fact that this happened in the comics)

Doubt it will actually be shown on screen anyway

Kurne - 6/24/2021, 2:54 AM

I don't think WB knows either lmao

Ojeet78 - 6/24/2021, 3:11 AM

I doubt WB knows either. Their handling of these iconic characters has been pretty chaotic. I just hope that Cavill gets to have a film or cameo that gives closure to his Superman.
think its best if WB let the guys working on Superman and Lois focus on their Superman, its been the most accurate and endearing one to date.

LSHF - 6/24/2021, 9:39 AM

@Ojeet78 - Yep. WB is making it up as they go along.

Roodi - 6/24/2021, 3:15 AM

It's the headless Superman from Shazam.

Roodi - 6/24/2021, 3:20 AM

Snyderbots mad over Bloodsport putting Superman in the ICU with a kryptonite bullet, are cool with Ayer's version of SS where the team was formed to take on "Superman level threats" with a chick and her bat.

[frick] 'EM

Moriakum - 6/24/2021, 3:42 AM

@Roodi - It's not a chick and her bat. In the DCEU, apparently, Harley Quinn is a trained and skilled fighter. She can easily kick some dude's ass with twice her size while doing spinning kicks and shit.

GhostDog - 6/24/2021, 3:25 AM

Jesus…this whole thing with Superman is such a mess. It’s sad how WB has handled him.

roboticJohnson - 6/24/2021, 3:27 AM

Would have been nice to get cavill even if it was just a cameo, but from what I understood there were negotiations problems between him and wb for future appearanes as superman or something like that so it was kinda expected.

TheDpool - 6/24/2021, 3:30 AM

I hope ots Cavill, I'm totally against Superman being recast when we already have a brilliant Superman.

bkmeijer2 - 6/24/2021, 3:31 AM

If it is Cavill's Superman, they could just take that as the starting point of the next Superman movie with Cavill. They could even rework it into Reign of the Supermen.

Have him feel the after effects of the bullet and thus has to take it slow, which results him chilling in Smallville for a bit. Maybe even have proper solar regeneration suit Superman this time around.

Repian - 6/24/2021, 4:28 AM

@bkmeijer - Superman is in a "Cadmus sun capsule" while a Cyborg replaces him.

So, Superman wakes up in the world of tomorrow. "Superman: The World of Tomorrow"

bkmeijer2 - 6/24/2021, 4:39 AM

@Repian - that would be pretty cool. Cadmus deserves to be on the big screen

Knightrider - 6/24/2021, 3:34 AM

I hope if the rumors are true that WB Montreal are making a Superman game it inspires a moment to create more Superman content

Mugens - 6/24/2021, 3:35 AM

If the studio heads at WB ever get their act together in regards to the DC universe, it will be a modern day miracle.

Moriakum - 6/24/2021, 3:39 AM

It's the DCEU and it happened off-screen, so, who cares?

Mugens - 6/25/2021, 4:10 AM

@Moriakum - Its whatever I choose to call it and I was being generous, and evidently I cared as I commented here.

SnideCut - 6/24/2021, 3:42 AM

[frick] Snyder, DC films and everyone who ruined Superman on film. I'm going to stick with Superman and Lois. Tyler Hoechlin is my modern Superman.

ManDeth - 6/24/2021, 3:58 AM

@SnideCut - SkeleLois and SuperTinyMan.

LameLuka - 6/24/2021, 3:45 AM

Not surprised considering how WB has screwed this franchise. This tells a lot about the current state of the DCEU

ManDeth - 6/24/2021, 3:57 AM

The kryptonite weakness should be dropped. It's moronic to have a being like Superman who could be killed by some dumb kid with a gun and kryptonite bullet.

It's also, very doubtful a kryptonite bullet moving so fast could cause a molecular change in Superman's body so quickly that it could penetrate his skin. Radiation can travel fast but as a bullet it would only travel as fast as the bullet. And a process would need to take place within Superman's body for him to be vulnerable. It is unlikely that transformation could take place so quickly for the bullet to enter his body.

I actually thought Snyder was going to drop dumb stuff like kryptonite and super breath. Too bad Nolan didn't do a truly grounded and more realistic Superman dropping the silly crap they came up with back in the campy comics days.

CorndogBurglar - 6/24/2021, 4:27 AM

@ManDeth - You're taking kt WAY too seriously lol. Its a comic character from another planet. You talk about his body needing to go through a molecular change in order for a bullet to penetrate his skin and you think thats dumb or silly, yet you're fine with the idea of Superman being able to absorb the yellow sun's energy and become a "super man".

Apparently freeze breath is dumb too lol. I don't see how thats any dumber than heat vision, super speed, flight, or having super strength.

Also, how many times has Superman actually been defeated or killed by Kryptonite? Zero. Out of all the people that have used it on him, he has survived and eventually won.

Honestly, it just sounds like maybe comics aren't for you. I'll admit, some characters benefit from being a little more grounded. Superman is not one of them.

bkmeijer2 - 6/24/2021, 4:39 AM

@ManDeth - well radiation does travel at the speed of light, and a bullet ''only'' at around 1/1000th the speed of that.

My guess would be the bullet still gives of radiation that reaches Superman earlier than the bullet, thus making Superman vulnerable enough for the bullet to penetrate.

MadThanos - 6/24/2021, 4:44 AM

@ManDeth - radiation travels at speed of light it all depends on the strength of it.

Considering how fast kryptonite degenerates his body cells the radiation is pretty strong.

MadThanos - 6/24/2021, 4:45 AM

@bkmeijer - that's my guess too.

bkmeijer2 - 6/24/2021, 4:54 AM

@MadThanos -

GwenLantern - 6/24/2021, 4:25 AM

Since this is pre-flashpoint, this Superman a) is Henry Cavill and b) doesn't matter.

Unless he means that he knows Superman will appear in The Flash movie, pre-flashpoint, and he doesn't know who they're casting for it. Maybe Harry gets first refusal, but hasn't said either way yet.

HarryBloodscreaming - 6/24/2021, 5:46 AM

He shot Superman, not an actor. It’s just a throwaway line in a movie, about something another character did off-camera; dialogue meant to create colourful backstory and context. No casting necessary. He shot Superman. Take this tragically rare opportunity to let your own imagination fill in the blanks.

Dredd97 - 6/24/2021, 6:04 AM

So many weirdo man babies that are attached to this version of Superman. There's been dozen of iterations and there'll be hundreds more. Hate to say it, Cavill hasn't been Superman since 2017, I wouldn't hold out that he's coming back. This version of Superman sucks anyway. But all that aside, this kryptonite bullet thing is a non issue and happened in the comics. I don't know why it blew up into this whole "Gunn is ruining Snyder's Superman!!" Don't worry, BvS already did that

Reeds2Much - 6/24/2021, 6:15 AM

Well it certainly wasn't Tyler Hoechlin because he'd have to be a monster to take a job that would shoot such a National Treasure.

Eli - 6/25/2021, 8:34 PM

@Reeds2Much - And besides, Tyler just pulls his own Kryptonite bullets out...

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