SUPERMAN Star Sean Gunn On Whether Maxwell Lord Is A Villain, James' "Bullet Points" Plan For The DCU, More

SUPERMAN Star Sean Gunn On Whether Maxwell Lord Is A Villain, James' "Bullet Points" Plan For The DCU, More

Superman and Peacemaker star Sean Gunn has weighed in on whether his Maxwell Lord is a villain, his brother James' rough plan for the DCU, and playing the character across multiple genres and projects.

By JoshWilding - Aug 19, 2025 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: The Wrap

Guardians of the Galaxy star Sean Gunn has been cast as the DCU's Maxwell Lord, and showed up in Superman for a cameo role (he'll next appear briefly in Peacemaker season 2). Crucially for this shared world, Lord is funding his own superhero team, dubbed the "Justice Gang." 

That makes the character incredibly important to the DCU's future, and Gunn says he's excited to follow Lord throughout the vastly different genres and corners of the DC Universe this relaunched franchise will explore in the coming years. Superman was a PG-13 blockbuster, whereas Peacemaker is very R-rated, so he's already had a taste of that. 

For Gunn, this provides him and other actors with the opportunity to play these characters in new ways as they bounce from project to project. 

"What I get most excited about is the idea of all of these things living in the same world, but having freedom to to be the unique vision of whatever storyteller is telling the story," Gunn told The Wrap. "So, all these different stories live in the same world, but they have different creators and they can be different genres even."

"You may have something that’s a little more horror-bent or a little more dramatic-bent, in addition to the action movies and the more superhero kind of fare, and I love that," the actor continued. "I love the idea of even playing a character who you need to adjust what they’re doing because the genre is a little different."

Gunn added, "It makes it similar to comics, in that comics have the freedom to have their own unique voice within the series that they’re in, but also those characters have a center that you don’t always want to deviate. So I’m really excited to see how it all looks after a few years."

Fans are eager to learn more about DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn's plans for the DCU, and while Sean hasn't been completely filled in on where "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" is heading, he believes his brother has at least a rough idea of where things are heading.

"I don’t know that he always knows the long-term vision," Sean explained. "He has bullet points for where things need to go and he keeps his eye on telling a great story, and never deviating from that part of it."

Gunn went on to say that he "wholeheartedly [agrees]" with James' suggestion that Lord isn't a clear-cut villain, explaining that his evil nature on the page "is certainly not something that is leading the way for me as I tackle the character." 

"I think he’s a lot more nuanced than that," the actor noted. "He's not evil incarnate the way that Lex is. I think that LordTech is the altruistic corporation that really wants to make the world a better place, and I’m putting my money where my mouth is by trying to help this Justice Gang achieve a better world for everybody."

Gunn also confirmed that the Justice Gang name is "being workshopped," suggesting we will eventually see the superhero team—currently comprised of Guy Gardner, Hawkgirl, Mister Terrific, and Metamorpho—go by a far more familiar moniker (likely Justice League International based on the roster). 

Are you excited to see more from the DCU's Maxwell Lord? 

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SuperCat
SuperCat - 8/19/2025, 5:53 AM
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WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 8/19/2025, 10:12 AM
@SuperCat -

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TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/19/2025, 6:24 AM
"I don’t know that he always knows the long-term vision."

So the guy in the driver's seat is blind ? I'm sure that's reassuring for everyone working at DC.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 8/19/2025, 6:41 AM
@TheJok3r - nothing new. Marvel didn't knew with the MCU where they were heading at the end of the saga either. Only because Whedon put Thanos in the end credits, the story went there
Sinner
Sinner - 8/19/2025, 7:42 AM
@TheJok3r - That’s… not what he said. Gunn knows where he wants to get, he just hasn’t mapped out the entire journey, no different to how the MCU.

In fact, the only one that ever did map out the entire journey was Snyder, and look how that turned out.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/19/2025, 9:15 AM
@Sinner - How many of Gunn's original slate has seen the light of day ? How many projects have been green lit that weren't part of it to begin with ? Obviously no one will care as long as the quality is there, but let's not pretend like he's been sticking to a plan this entire time.
Sinner
Sinner - 8/19/2025, 9:20 AM
@TheJok3r - He hasn’t. He clearly has an endgame in mind, but there’s going to deviations along the way and that’s what his brother is saying. It’s no different to what Marvel did. You think GOTG, Civil War or even mega hits like Black Panther in Feige’s original plan to get to Infinity War? Heck, Hickman hadn’t even wrote Infinity yet which was half the inspiration for Infinity War.

All of this stuff gets made up as they go along and the journey is always in flux. It’s about reaching the end goal that matters, and clearly, Gunn knows what that roughly is.
IKidYouNotMan
IKidYouNotMan - 8/19/2025, 6:28 AM
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/19/2025, 6:59 AM
He only had a line in Superman but from that and what we have seen of him in Peacemaker so far , he seems to be doing well as his version of Maxwell Lord…

I don’t see this iteration becoming the villain whose neck Diana snaps in the comics but moreso in line with his original depiction in the pages of JLI where he was a amoral businessman but not really a villain since he would struggle with his conscience and have heroic qualities at times though still be an essentially a con artist at heart or even the DCAU version who was the manager of the Últimen.

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Also seemed evident that the Justice Gang name was not an official thing within the Superman movie itself but I’m sure as more members are added then they’ll become a “league” rather then a “gang” of 4.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 8/19/2025, 8:04 AM
A good guardians of the galaxy film in 2014 led to us getting an insipid, terribly written and directed superman reboot in 2025....crazy
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/19/2025, 8:54 AM
@SteviesRightFoo - and fantastic four is master piece when people on social media say it’s one 1 time viewing not great not bad it’s in middle where if I saw fantastic four in theater I probably be falling asleep or leave theater play on phone
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Fantastic four fox is more entertaining to watch and there costumes match it wast no one person team show mostly about one member getting all attention and other family and team members get side kick distraction fantastic four first steps made team all about sue storm all others was just there as distraction did nothing to help in final battle it was mostly sue since when in comics does Johnny figure out non English language when smartest man on planet is his brother in law reed Johnny is not smart enough find solution communicate to silver surfer reed is take Johnny and Ben out of movie it still end same yeah keep reed richards in movie how else will sue be pregnant it was mostly sue team not four team there is no I in team fantastic four felt like Deadpool 3 all over again wolverine was in it fans excited Logan costume could be all pink fans will not care ask long he wears costume and mask
Baf
Baf - 8/19/2025, 8:38 AM
It's crazy how the narrative on Gunn has changed on this website. When Guardians came out, all the comments were about how James Gunn made a better film with unknown heroes and Zack Snyder Tanked Superman. The comments were riddled with GIFs of Superman breaking Zod's neck.
Now the Marvel genius is at DC, and no one likes him anymore. It just goes to show that weather or not the studios are at war, The fans sure are. Gunn hasn't changed much since 2014, and neither have Marvel fanboys.
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/19/2025, 9:00 AM
@Baf - people always compalin superman snap zod neck BUT they never mention this version of zod dying
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Baf
Baf - 8/19/2025, 12:04 PM
@dragon316 - A fate worse than the Phantom Zone! Straight up Regan era justice! At least in Snyder's film Superman was remorseful about killing Zod. In Donners film, Superman crushed the dude's hand (torture) then tossed three powerless lives away like trash. I wonder why he didn't throw Luthor in the same pit he threw the other evil do-errs.
Forthas
Forthas - 8/19/2025, 9:42 AM
James Gunn is winging this whole thing and now that Superman has flopped he is being ordered by David Zaslav to NOT focus on the obscure characters he really wants to write about. But Gunn being Gunn is now working on the Superman family. Once again he cannot make solo films. He has to find some way to incorporate a team dynamic by pretending it is a solo film (Superman 2025) or just piling in new characters for the sequel. He is an overrated fraud!
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 8/19/2025, 9:52 AM
Superman was great. Now they need to put everything they got into Batman OR fold Pattinson's Batman into it.

Between The Batman movies and The Penguin series, Pattinson's Batman already has more of a universe than the DCU. We've seen a true gritty and grimy Gotham that matches Superman's futuristic and utopian Metropolis pound for pound.
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 8/19/2025, 9:56 AM
Sean Gunn should not be playing Maxwell Lord. This might be the worst casting in the DCU thus far. Only thing that will top it is if they actually cast Kumail Nanjiani as Booster


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Laridian
Laridian - 8/19/2025, 10:41 AM
Look at people pretending Maxwell Lord was their favorite character before Gunn was cast. LOL
DREAMER
DREAMER - 8/19/2025, 10:47 AM
Who cares if he plays a villain, he got paid and well!
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THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/19/2025, 12:01 PM
"Maxwell Lord" was literally just Sean Gunn.
asherman93
asherman93 - 8/19/2025, 1:32 PM
So it sounds like while there is a basic outline for the myth arc, the overall focus is just doing it one film at a time... sort of like how Marvel does it outside Phase 3.

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