Taika Waititi Talks "Bombastic" THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER And Fans Shipping Valkyrie And Captain Marvel

In a new interview, Thor: Love and Thunder director Taika Waititi teases his plans for the Thor: Ragnarok sequel and weighs in on fans shipping Valkyrie and Captain Marvel. Hit the jump for details...

By JoshWilding - Oct 23, 2019 08:10 AM EST

Filed Under: Thor: Love and Thunder

Source: WIRED

Thor: Ragnarok took the God of Thunder's franchise in a very different direction, and the majority of fans loved it. Now, with Thor: Love and Thunder on the horizon, there's a lot of excitement surrounding what writer and director Taika Waititi brings to the table next.

We know that the Mighty Thor will factor into the proceedings in a big way, while Valkyrie will be looking for her "Queen" now that's she's Asgard's ruler. However, those of you hoping it will be Captain Marvel may be disappointed because while Waititi is well aware of fans shipping the two Marvel characters, he's unsure whether listening to fans all the time is actually a good thing.

"The thing is, I think it’s dangerous for people to say too much about what they want with Marvel, because then they will tend to go the other way," the filmmaker explained. "You want to listen to the fans to a point. But also you don’t want to have a completely fan-made film because then it doesn’t feel like there’s any point. You want to have people surprised."

In other words, Valkyrie's Queen probably won't be who any of us expect!

On that note, it sounds like Thor: Love and Thunder will take us to some crazy, unexpected places. "It’s going to be bigger and louder and more bombastic," Waititi promises. "It’s only interesting to me if we’re doubling down on how nuts Ragnarok was."

Sounds like a fun time, right?

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SpideyPuffsMJ - 10/23/2019, 9:00 AM

I never understood where it came from anyway, are Brie and Tessa friends in real life? Valkyrie and Capatain Marvel have never said a word to each other onscreen.

Spidey91 - 10/23/2019, 9:43 AM

@SpideyPuffsMJ - from personal experience I can tell you people ship characters just from sharing the same air sometimes.

knocturnalzen10 - 10/23/2019, 9:02 AM

i still don't get shipping .... does that make me old :(

LongMayHeReign - 10/23/2019, 9:12 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - No my good man that makes you sane!

knocturnalzen10 - 10/23/2019, 9:13 AM

@LongMayHeReign - fist pump

GhostDog - 10/23/2019, 9:14 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - same here. It makes you wise lol

noahthegrand - 10/23/2019, 9:32 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - it’s basically the modern version of rooting for two characters on a soap opera to get together.

Legendaddy - 10/23/2019, 9:03 AM

Bring it Mr. Waititi!

Reeds2Much - 10/23/2019, 9:04 AM

"It’s only interesting to me if we’re doubling down on how nuts Ragnarok was."

GhostDog - 10/23/2019, 9:05 AM

knocturnalzen10 - 10/23/2019, 9:17 AM

@BlackBeltJones - not sure if you read the whole run but Jane was doing stuff has never done with the hammer .... she dropped Odin with the hammer ... it was crazy ... i'm looking forward to see what he can do with the dynamic

demery - 10/23/2019, 9:38 AM

@BlackBeltJones - That's good, but what if we have that only to immediately have a character saying some modern slang or doing slapstick because subverting expectations like a parody while still trying to be true to the character is funny.

GhostDog - 10/23/2019, 9:47 AM

@knocturnalzen10 - yea I read it, thought is been a while and I am currently re-reading Aaron's run from the beginning. Taking my time.

One of my fave Jane/Thor moments

Armageddon26 - 10/23/2019, 9:06 AM

I love Taika and Thor Ragnarok a whole lot, and doubling down on the bonkers sounds like a lot of fun, I just hope he keeps a good balance in tone between serious moments and comedy, for as much as I loved Ragnarok too many moments were undercut with jokes imo

regularmovieguy - 10/23/2019, 9:23 AM

@Armageddon26

I felt the same about GOTG V2. The serious and reflective moments in that movie are great some of the best in the MCU imo. But a lot of them were undercut by un-needed jokes. And the jokes weren’t all that funny.

I thought Ragnarok was much, much funnier so I didn’t mind it all that much there.

demery - 10/23/2019, 9:39 AM

@regularmovieguy - I liked GOTG V2 better. It had the same problems as RAGNAROK, but I remember the good and bad jokes from the former unlike the latter where I can only remember the jokes that didn't land for me instead of the ones that I thought were genuinely funny the first time I saw it.

Armageddon26 - 10/23/2019, 1:41 PM

@regularmovieguy - completely feel the same, it didn’t fully work for me in Ragnarok when they threw in jokes at odd moments, but almost every joke worked for me, GOTG Vol 2 humor just seemed too try-hard and juvenile and really hurt the heart of that movie.
I have more worries for GOTG Vol 3 than Love and Thunder

FinnishDude - 10/23/2019, 6:32 PM

@regularmovieguy - IMO, GOTG vol. 2 balanced humor and drama much better than Ragnarok. If Waititi directed the former, I imagine there would have been a fart joke or something during Yondu's funeral.