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PantherKing
PantherKing - 12/12/2017, 2:59 AM
Grandmaster was once blue? Cool
Kumkani
Kumkani - 12/12/2017, 2:59 AM
Kinda wish they made Grandmaster blue in the movie still.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 12/12/2017, 3:28 AM
One thing I did like about this movie was making Hela Odin's daughter, and having her be the original wielder of Mjolnir. Obviously I'm pretty sure that never happens in the comics, but it says a lot about what it means to be a child of Odin, and Odin himself.

Here is a man who first born, his daughter, was so filled with bloodlust that he banished her from Asgard hoping that she will change her ways. Instead she remains the same sadistic killer, and kills the Valkyries sent for her. Which means that when Odin was talking to Thor during that celebration in the first Thor movie when he named him as his heir (I think), Odin is lying to Thor about him being his first born. The way Anthony Hopkins delivered that line seems like he's fighting back tears of joy, but with the context of Ragnarok, it now looks like he was fighting back the lie.

And another thing to note is that when Odin sees that Thor is developing the same bloodlust, he banishes him too to Midgard. The difference here is that Thor changes his ways and learns the value of life, unlike Hela, and regains Mjolnir. Which gives Odin's lines about Mjolnir being "a weapon to destroy, and a tool to build" more meaning than just fancy exposition. All he ever saw was Hela use Mjolnir to destroy during the days of Asgardian conquest, but Thor has learned to build with it.

Odin's bloodline is perhaps tainted with bloodlust, but he so desperately tried to change Thor to ensure that his legacy won't be tainted by those kind of mistakes, and honestly, that's very interesting.
VicSage
VicSage - 12/12/2017, 3:33 AM
@BlindWedjat - There was so much untapped potential in the Thor series looking back on it. Whether intentional or not. Really, the entire trilogy hinges on Odin's lies and the consequences of them. In hindsight, the Frost Giants aren't evil, they're retaliating against a man and his ancestors who have slaughtered them and taken their precious treasures; Malekith isn't a villain, he too, is enacting revenge on a man and his ancestors who slaughtered his people and taken their precious treasure; and lastly, Odin's lies pile up against him, and his greatest fallacy reveals itself: his first true heir, Hela.

If the series had focused more on the truth of Asgard and its rulers, and Thor coming to terms with the idea that he isn't from a great honorable bloodline and he sought true redemption... the series would have been better for it.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 12/12/2017, 4:10 AM
@VicSage - Can't help but agree. And that's not something I thought about. That the trilogy is based on Odin's lies, whether to secure the survival of Asgard or to achieve dominance over the 9 realms. I wish that was fleshed out a little more, especially in TDW. I think it's well done in the first movie and Ragnarok needed a bit more of it too, but it still did a good job.

One thing I would like, or would have liked, are counters to those great opening narrations by Anthony Hopkins' Odin. Perhaps in the (hopefully) next Thor movies, we have narrations from the points of views of King Laufey, Malekith and Hela. Something that really gives a different perspective and makes the audience question things. But I do like that for the most part, this idea has been made clear. It just needs to be fleshed out to give it weight.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 12/12/2017, 11:31 AM
@VicSage - And I especially love how it is similarly reflects real-life; ones being presented as evil may not indeed be so, we may all have been fooled by the lies of the ones in power.
789
789 - 12/12/2017, 4:13 AM
I loved Cat Blanchett very damn much!!

She was the hottest thing in that movie. Ver [frick]n hot!
ScarletWarlock
ScarletWarlock - 12/12/2017, 6:43 AM
Looking at the Sakaar concept art kind of makes me hope that when they introduce Beta Ray Bill he has a Kirby designed armor, because I think if they do a 4th Thor movie, people will really miss that Kirby backdrop, there's nothing quite like it.
EarlChai
EarlChai - 12/12/2017, 8:10 AM
That red and green armor—it’s so… Kirby! 😍
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