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Darlene1974
Darlene1974 - 9/3/2017, 6:10 AM
Every one of the obscure characters are coming out of the woodworks, all except a full blown Batman!...
This show is just another Smallville...
Thanoice
Thanoice - 9/3/2017, 6:16 AM
@Darlene1974 - ...it's a show about Batman before he's Batman...
Ivy182
Ivy182 - 9/3/2017, 6:54 AM
@Darlene1974 - well. The show is called Gotham. Not Batman. It was never advertised as a Batman show either.
Darlene1974
Darlene1974 - 9/3/2017, 7:20 AM
@Ivy182 - I get that, but if it's NOT because of how huge and iconic Batman is internationally, this show won't even Exist...
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/3/2017, 7:34 AM
@Darlene1974 -
"This show is just another Smallville."

Which is exactly what it's supposed to be. You expected something else?
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/3/2017, 7:41 AM
@Darlene1974 -
"I get that, but if it's NOT because of how huge and iconic Batman is internationally, this show won't even Exist..."

Except this was never advertised as a Batman show. It's a Batman Universe show, that explores the origins and all the other facets of the lore. Hell, there are plenty of Batman Universe comic books that rarely (if ever) include Batman. So you should stop judging the show by what you wish it was, and start judging it by what it actually is.







Besides, a live action Batman show is never going to happen any time soon. Warner Brothers sees him as their movie cash cow.
Origame
Origame - 9/3/2017, 5:05 PM
@Ivy182 - Oh it was definitely advertised as a Batman show. At least Smallville kept the Superman references to a minimum (until after season 5).
Darlene1974
Darlene1974 - 9/3/2017, 6:05 PM
@Darkknight2149 - I get all that. I know what the shows all about. NEVERTHELESS, if it's not cos of BATMAN, none of these would exist nor the Gotham tv show either...
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/3/2017, 7:29 PM
@Origame -
Nope.

Featuring iconic characters and lore =/= "Batman" show
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/3/2017, 7:37 PM
What Gotham is (and was always promised to be):



The impossible show that people are complaining they didn't get:
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 4:48 AM
@Darkknight2149 - Well that's the difference between it being a batman show and simply being advertised as a batman show. I'm not talking about the show itself. I'm talking about how it was advertised.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/4/2017, 9:13 AM
@Origame -
It was always advertised as a Batman Universe prequel. Never were Batman himself, or the Batman Family, advertised.





SYNOPSIS:
"Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world’s greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon’s story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world’s most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

GOTHAM is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), GOTHAM follows one cop’s rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

Growing up in Gotham City’s surrounding suburbs, JAMES GORDON (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, BARBARA KEAN (Erin Richards, “Open Grave,” “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend HARVEY BULLOCK (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city’s highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes’ hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, BRUCE (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy’s profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham’s criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss FISH MOONEY (Jada Pinkett Smith, “The Matrix” films, “HawthoRNe,” “Collateral”), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction’s most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged SELINA KYLE/the future CATWOMAN (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and OSWALD COBBLEPOT/THE PENGUIN (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” “Another Earth”).

Although the crime drama will follow Gordon’s turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain SARAH ESSEN (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, ALFRED (Sean Pertwee, “Camelot,” “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he’s destined to be.

GOTHAM is based upon characters published by DC Comics and is produced by Warner Bros. Television. Executive producer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist”) wrote the pilot, which will be directed and executive-produced by Emmy Award nominee Danny Cannon (the “CSI” series, “Nikita”)."

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How was this advertised as a "Batman" show?
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 10:30 AM
@Darkknight2149 - By focusing on how it's leading to Batman. It's even worse now that you don't even see Gordon in the ads anymore and it's all Bruce in his proto Batman get up.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/4/2017, 10:50 AM
@Origame -
That's because Season 4 will have Bruce Wayne becoming a vigilante for the first time. And the show is building up to Batman (which will culminate in the series finale, as confirmed by the showrunners).

As a whole, the marketing has focused on James Gordon, the gang war storylines, the city in general, and the supervillains a lot more than it has Bruce Wayne becoming Batman.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/4/2017, 10:55 AM
@Origame -
Hell, the first two Season 4 trailers didn't even have the proto-vigilante costume in it. That was just one TV spot.
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 11:27 AM
@Darkknight2149 - Still focused more on Bruce than the actual main character. Jim is the main character. That can't be disputed. But in those trailers he's barely even shown.
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 11:27 AM
@Darkknight2149 - And they still show that scene of him on the building that's clearly an homage to the animated series. It's definitely a Batman show.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/4/2017, 12:16 PM
@Origame -
You mean in the two Season 4 trailers here (and there have only been three altogether)? Because in the vast majority of them, Gordon is front and centre (include the Season 1 ones that I listed).
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 3:55 PM
@Darkknight2149 - Yes. I seriously just watched them and he is in it but they put more of an emphasis on Bruce and the villains.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 9/4/2017, 3:56 PM
@Origame -
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Good debate, though.
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2017, 4:05 PM
@Darkknight2149 - ok
Nightmare
Nightmare - 9/3/2017, 6:11 AM
Loved the new Tick show. Wish it were a couple episodes longer at least.
BruceParker
BruceParker - 9/3/2017, 9:28 AM
@Nightmare - YESSSSS!Loved it.
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 9/3/2017, 6:13 AM
Will he sing?
IronMandarin
IronMandarin - 9/3/2017, 6:25 AM
Easily the most f*cked Batman villain.

Honestly this show will need an R rated to do an accurate depiction of him. Anything less than that is not enough.
DillonEnnis
DillonEnnis - 9/3/2017, 6:48 AM
@IronMandarin - I don't watch it regularly but from what I've seen it's a rather violent show
rabid
rabid - 9/3/2017, 7:56 AM
@IronMandarin - It's close enough to R-rated already. They violently kill a few hundred people each season.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 9/3/2017, 6:28 AM
Pyg, Dollface, Dr.Rot ehehe i really like this type of villains! >:)
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