@Imfunnyhow - so all of DC?

@Imfunnyhow - Adam West will return, find you, and then have a delightful and amicable conversation with you about that over a nice meal.

@Imfunnyhow - yet bvs was hated....weird.

@RancidBane - @Imfunnyhow - @scapegoatjones @WakandaManAreU

The problem is that there's risk of a one-dimensional hero universe. We can't have a dark Batman, dark Superman, dark Cyborg, dark Robin, dark Beastboy, dark Aquaman etc.

It also shows those in charge don't understand the character dynamics and balance.

For example: Batman disappearing when people turn around is a cool signature move...so what does WB/DC do? They make ALL of the Justice League do it...expect for Flash. Even clunky Cyborg. Now it's not so much his thing but just something they all do.

Everyone can't be jaded, dark and mysterious. That isn't some brush you use to define an entire brand. Having so many dark characters diminishes Batman as a whole because all characters start to behave in the same way and the tone falls flat. Without balance the entire experience will feel like a black hole.

I'm still waiting for Superman-of-steel to actually become Superman and stop whining about the whole idea of being a hero.

@NinnesMBC - Other than the few comic characters like deadpool, who at their lowest rating still need to be TV-14 or something similar...

I just don't understand the whole "this rating is better" thing

I think there shouldn't be any expectation based on the rating - It should just be whatever the story that was meant to be told calls for.

@Battabing - Not really. TV-MA and R are quite different. The ratings between TV and Film is quite different and if you think MA is some sort of R+, making it closer to an NC-17 rating, I suggest you read up on the ratings. The Netflix shows don't drop F bombs or have nudity, like R rated films do. Even PG-13 films are allowed to have 1 F bomb but Walking Dead has been around for 7 years before they finally allowed 1 of those, despite it maintaining an MA rating the whole time.

TV and film ratings are quite different and other than TV-14 and PG-13 being similar you can't really equate the higher ratings to that of their film/tv counterpart. MA covers A LOT of ground and if this series is MA then that's a good thing because there will be very little restriction on what they can show or say. That doesn't mean they need to overdo it though. It only makes sense for criminals to swear or for someone to be naked during a sex scene instead of clinging to a sheet because showing bare breasts to your partner would just be "weird" or something. I hope they don't go overboard with it because dark does not equal good. This isn't HBO either. Showing somethings will only help people get immersed in the world they build a little easier and it may help some with the predictability.

@PBIRD - that being said, season 4 of AOS is still my second favorite season of tv from Marvel TV

only beaten by s1 of Legion and followed up with s2 of legion.

I'm a broken record by now, but everyone needs to watch legion s1. Wow.

@DaHyro - Well Cyborg is on Doom Patrol, which is a spin off of this

@DaHyro - They've already started to do that. They're allowing Cyborg on Doom Patrol and Superman has been used a fair bit in Supergirl now. I think we've already seen a reversal of their position on that.

@OptionFour - alternate... Not attribute

@BlindWedjat -
Anyone remember that Slade Wilson was banging a teenager in the original comics?

@kRAVENklaw -
Oh, I'm sure they'll build up to it over subsequent seasons.