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MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 2/12/2021, 8:47 AM
I'm getting major Trask vibes from Hayward. He obviously does not like superheros. I feel like Ultron will play a big part going forward. So excited!
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/12/2021, 8:59 AM
@HydraB0b - He reminded me a lot of that Shield guy from Ant-man that was revealed to be Hydra. Definitely up to some shit, I think he was using Vision to make weapons and Wanda found out and he’s trying to kill her to hide it
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 2/12/2021, 10:08 AM
@Ha1frican - I think hes trying to remake Ultron. At the beginning of all this i didnt think he would be of any significance going forward. Theres ALOT more going on than just Hayward(Multiverse, Mephisto, etc.)..but now I'm confident were getting more Ultron. I dont think it will be a huge arc or that he will be the main villain of phase 4, but that's where it's all going on the SWORD front.
tb86
tb86 - 2/12/2021, 8:50 AM
I’m still waiting for the X-Men connection.
TomK725
TomK725 - 2/12/2021, 9:13 AM
@tb86 - "pietro" did mention the XY chromosome.....not sure if that says anything.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 2/12/2021, 9:50 AM
@TomK725 - yeah, it means he's a male lol
TomK725
TomK725 - 2/12/2021, 9:58 AM
@TheShape9859 - wow I am an idiot Hahaha....letting the theory finding get the best of my brain haha
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 2/12/2021, 1:01 PM
@tb86 - the whole show is a connection to Xmen and the introduction of Mutants. They just haven't revealed it yet. 3 maybe even 4 more episodes to go, we will get there.
vegetaray
vegetaray - 2/12/2021, 7:11 PM
@tb86 - They literally had a several lines of dialogue about Monica’s DNA being rewritten then rewritten again when she passed through the barrier each time...

Everybody in that town has their DNA being rewritten, including the children...
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 2/12/2021, 8:52 AM
I almost forgot my boy Herb was back lol
FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 2/12/2021, 8:54 AM

People everywhere saying this event creates Mutants somehow. But can that account for older major Mutants that would pre-date the event, like Wolverine (over 150), Xavier, and Wanda's father himself? Maybe only if it somehow works retroactively through history or something.


Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 2/12/2021, 9:03 AM
@FleischerSupes - But can that account for older major Mutants that would pre-date the event,

You could argue that Wanda isn't responsible for mutations, just the explosion in their population, which arguably would be kind of a loose reference to the events of House of M, but skipping the M Day conclusion.

Or it could be a red herring, since he show's SOP is basically to mess with audience expectations.
FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 2/12/2021, 9:25 AM
@Reeds2Much - Yeah that might go along with the idea that sometimes comes up in comics that there's a hierarchy within mutants: cool ones vs not cool, more powerful vs lame/no powers, and maybe old ones vs newbies.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/12/2021, 8:58 AM
I put this in the other thread but I’m gonna put it here since the discussion will probably love here

Ok here’s my running theory.

-Sword guy was using Visions body to create weapons

-Wanda finds out and busts in to steal him back

-Having his body she again falls into despair, and subconsciously reaches out to the darkness she describes to Pietro (this mirrors the yogurt commercial as well when the shark offers the boy something to eat in his time of need but he doesnt get what he actually wants) which is Mephisto or some other entity that promises to use her power to bring Vision back at a cost, most likely the creation of her kids that would serve Mephisto. What the yogurt commercial foreshadows is that Wanda was never going to get what she wanted out of the deal and that its all a lie to manipulate her into creating Speed and Wiccan but ultimately get her out of the way

-Agnes is Agatha Harkness and is both helping keep the Hex together but also manipulating Vision into confrontation with Wanda so that they will both be killed and Mephisto can take the kids in a typical Monkey Paw or deal with the devil scenario where the person making the deal/wish never actually gets what they want again hinted at by the yogurt commercial. That why when Wanda is around she seems to be entirely on her side and leans into her reality even asking if she wants her to take it from the top. But when Vision is alone she seeds doubt like when Herb in at the fence, or doing what I believe is pretending to get lost and stuck in the car in this episode.

-It seems like the Hex becomes less real and less powerful the further away from Wanda they get, which is why people are trapped in gif loops and even frozen solid. Almost like draw distance in a video game where the further away you get from the main character the less real everything is which is also hinted at in the yogurt commercial as they are probably all starting to die.

-I also think Pietro is Mephisto or whatever is pulling the strings bc hes just off and Wanda knows it too. Between the face, the accent, or that hes the only one really seemingly free of the influence of that reality mentally hes seems to know a lot more than he should.

Not sure where they go from here but I think thats overall what has happened so far
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 2/12/2021, 8:59 AM
@Ha1frican - damn good theory I do say myself
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/12/2021, 9:06 AM
@MrCamw1 - The one thing I have trouble factoring in is the kids not being in town until the twins were born. Pietro mentions it and he’s right there weren’t any other kids before Speed and Wiccan were born. I wonder if maybe Wiccan is subconsciously creating them to have other kids around bc it seems like Wanda couldn’t do that or maybe she just didn’t bc she didn’t need to but once the kids were born they’d need friends
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