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bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 2/20/2020, 1:00 AM
If she is still around during TROS, doesnt that make her the longest living character from the Clome Wars era?
Ace101
Ace101 - 2/20/2020, 1:06 AM
@MalseMarcel - palpatine, her, hera possibly (she was in the first season of clone wars I believe when riloth was under attack and her dad was leading the resistance).
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 1:16 AM
@Ace101 - Nope, wasn't her.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 1:35 AM
@GhostofCipher - Clones age faster than regular humans so that's probably a nope.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 1:45 AM
@GhostofCipher - Well that isn't canon for one.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 2:03 AM
@TheJustinHammer - Well, sure but that's shaky. On that note, Wookieepedia says clones "were also designed to age at twice the rate of natural humans." Rex was supposedly born in 32 BBY and the Battle of Endor takes place in 4 ABY; so he'd be like 70 something.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 2:19 AM
@TheJustinHammer - That's fair as far as I'm aware apart from the "(with Mando blood)" bit. :P
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 2/20/2020, 3:22 AM
@GhostofCipher @Ace101 - Maybe I should've said after TROS. Sure there are some force ghosts left after Palpatine is killed, but it appears Ashoka is the only one alive left as far as confirmation goes
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 1:03 AM
I mean, she'd be like 70 at the time anyway. It's not like she's relevant to the era or anything anyway.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/20/2020, 1:03 AM
boogiefett
boogiefett - 2/20/2020, 1:47 AM
What if she’s the Jedi the Mandalorian brings The Baby to. I’ll lose it !
Odin
Odin - 2/20/2020, 3:28 AM
@boogiefett - Yeah, ever since it was said that some established Star Wars character would show up in future seasons of the Mandalorian, I've been hoping it would Ahsoka. Could be Luke, but I wonder if Disney let's them use such a high profile character in a TV show. Especially when they'd had to recast younger actor (Sebastian Stan as Luke!).
boogiefett
boogiefett - 2/20/2020, 7:18 AM
@TheJustinHammer - Luke would make more sense but what would Disney do to introduce him back? CGI his face ? Bring in a younger actor ( I doubt that one) , have him just referenced ( not with The Baby having such a huge impact on show) so many possibilities
boogiefett
boogiefett - 2/20/2020, 7:20 AM
@Odin - agree on reintroducing Luke - what direction does Disney go in to have him appear.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 2/20/2020, 9:25 AM
@TheJustinHammer - It depends really. We can imagine at this point, Luke is still busy finishing off the empire and helping to get the New Republic on its feet. Given the type of adventure Mando and the child are embarking on, it may be more organic for them to encounter Ahsoka on the outskirts of the galaxy.
lawndart
lawndart - 2/20/2020, 4:04 AM
Her age doesn't matter. Who knows what the average lifespan of her species would be? It's sci-fi so it could be anything.
Philvis
Philvis - 2/20/2020, 4:41 AM
Filoni better not have let those jack legs killed her off!
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/20/2020, 6:51 AM
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/20/2020, 8:03 AM
Dave Filoni has no business being in charge of anything timeline or overall plot related. Everything he does chips away at the emotional basis of the original trilogy just so he can service his own pet characters. Ashoka is a fun character, but this obsession with keeping his characters alive so he can continue to play with them is just stupid. He's more concerned with stroking his own creative ego than the property as a whole. The issue with Filoni is the exact same issue that the old EU had with it's authors. They're more tied to their own pet characters that the overall story and continuity suffer as a result. Filoni should have gone away with the EU.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 2/20/2020, 9:30 AM
@Deklipz - "Everything he does chips away at the emotional basis of the original trilogy just so he can service his own pet characters."

How? Clone Wars greatly enriched the characters of Anakin and Obi-wan as well as the overall narrative of how the Republic became the Empire.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/20/2020, 11:00 AM
@BIGBMH - I don't think he did much for the narrative that wasn't explicitly done in the movies. He gave Anakin and Obi some decent arcs but again, it feels more to service his own characters, such as ahsoka or even some of the droid generals, than it does to serve the overall narrative. Grievious is made to look like a complete and total fool in every encounter throughout the show save for one when he kills a completely inconsequential Jedi. Introducing and then keeping multiple force users around throughout the time of the original trilogy completely wipes out the entire emotional base of Luke/Leia being the last hope of defeating the empire. When episode 3 ended we had the weight of knowing that Yoda and Obi were the only ones that would be left at the beginning of the OT. Now we have god knows how many (pseudo)Jedi running around ACTIVE and known throughout the entirety of the timeline. The weight in the OT is from the failures of the past, both Jedi/Republic leaving that galaxy in a state of hopelessness. To the point that the LAST 2 Jedi were protecting what were the LAST (implied, if there were others, wtf did they need Luke and Leia for?) force users of significance. Ahsoka should have ied at the end of the Clone Wars or shortly thereafter bringing even more emotional weight to Vaders loneliness and tragedy, but nope. Filoni wants to keep his pets around forever because his ego won't let him use his characters to service the overall narrative.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 2/20/2020, 11:44 AM
@Deklipz - I do kind of agree with the sentiment of too many additional jedi running around during the OT era. However, none of them had the power to pose a real threat to Vader and Palpatine by means of sheer force. Luke and Leia were arguably the only hope due to their ability to appeal to the good in Anakin.

I disagree with the notion of servicing the "overall narrative" because I don't think that should be the primary objective. The Clone Wars is its own collection of worthwhile stories, not merely a companion piece meant to enhance the Skywalker Saga. Because it's not so focused on setup and relation to the OT, it's able to expand the world in more interesting ways than anything that has come since. The Night Sisters and Night Brothers, the culture and psychology of the clones themselves, the politics of the war and examination of how it effects soldiers, politicians, and ordinary citizens, etc. It's a rich tapestry of stories.

The show does more with its original characters because it has the room to place their pivotal story points within the span of the series. The vital turning points within Anakin and Obi-wan's lives are depicted within the films. We don't see any sort of major shifts in Obi-wan's personality from 2 to 3, so it'd be difficult to really send him on a pivotal journey within those 3 years. Even with that limitation, I think it does a very good job with them. Anakin is actually likable and his ethics are better painted than in the prequels. Obi-wan's past with Satine and conflict with Maul makes him interesting beyond his relationship to the Skywalkers.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 2/20/2020, 3:57 PM
@BIGBMH - I don’t necessarily disagree with your points about clone wars, but even as it’s own thing overall the things you mentioned still services the overall narrative, moreso than a lot of other ancillary stuff. And I don’t have a problem with it exploring and expanding other characters. I have a problem when those other characters are propped up unnecessarily. Also, yoda and obi wan we’re pretty damn clear in the OT that they were it. They weren’t waiting for someone who could take down Vader emotionally, that was just luck with Luke. There’s no reason that the 100 other Jedi Filoni has running around couldn’t have created a new order and overthrown the empire. It’s retarded.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 2/21/2020, 2:57 PM
@Deklipz - How many are actually active though?

Kanan - Not a factor by the time of the OT

Ezra - Honestly, I kind of wish they didn't introduce a jedi in training and just shifted focus to Sabine. But he's still MIA by the end of the war, so he wasn't around to help.

Ahsoka - Also MIA. Not clear what exactly she was doing after the temple or where she was, but it does seem like there's a plan.

Aside from those, how many have Clone Wars or Rebels confirmed to be around?
KindredMac
KindredMac - 2/20/2020, 8:16 AM
Filoni is the one true Star Wars Master.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 2/20/2020, 9:21 AM
Now that the smoke is starting to clear from Ep 9, and looking back ... damn, that last trilogy was so bad.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/20/2020, 9:38 AM
Dredd97
Dredd97 - 2/20/2020, 8:45 PM
That absolutes scene always killed me. Obi-Wan says "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." Which is in of itself an absolute...the prequel writing is so [frick]ing bad lol
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