DARK PHOENIX "Honest Trailer" Points Out A Major Plot Hole And Other Catastrophic Creative Decisions

The "Honest Trailer" for Dark Phoenix is finally here, and it doesn't shy away from taking aim at everything that's wrong with Fox's final X-Men movie! Did you happen to notice this huge plot hole?

By JoshWilding - Sep 18, 2019 02:09 AM EST

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Dark Phoenix was a pretty terrible movie, so it probably won't surprise you that this "Honest Trailer" doesn't shy away from tearing into Fox's final X-Men adventure.

There's plenty to take aim at, of course, but while the X-Men: The Last Stand comparisons are funny, the most interesting thing about this video is the fact that it points out a glaring plot hole. After Jean Grey kills Mystique in a fit of rage, she flies off without so much of a drop of blood on her. When she's crying in the rain, however, the mutant is covered in it!

This was a pretty major error on director Simon Kinberg's part, and probably a sign that those extensive reshoots caused all sorts of mistakes while production was ongoing.

Whether you loved or hated Dark Phoenix, this is a pretty funny video, so be sure to check it out:

For a recap of frustrating, unanswered questions that Dark
Phoenix leaves us with, hit the "View List" button below!

Is Quicksilver Magneto's Son?

This is something the X-Men franchise has been teasing since Days of Future Past, but if you were hoping that Dark Phoenix would provide a definitive answer, guess again. Quicksilver is taken out by Jean during the final act and is presumably left comatose for the rest of the movie as he doesn't return until the final montage in a blink and you'll miss it moment.

The possibility of Quicksilver being Magneto's son is never addressed, and the fact that Jean so badly injured him isn't something Beast even brings up to Erik when they meet (as he presumably wouldn't care). There's also no sign of Quicksilver's younger sister, who might well have been Scarlet Witch.

And Is Nightcrawler Related To Mystique?!

Another mystery that fans have been vocal about since Nightcrawler was reintroduced is whether or not he's the son of Mystique and Azazel (who appeared in First Class before being killed off screen).

As you might expect, Kinberg also neglects to touch on that particular plot thread which is a shame, as it would have been interesting to see Kurt's reaction to his mother's death. To be honest, he's a total non-factor here as his religion and swashbuckling personality aren't included in any way.

What's The Deal With The Phoenix?

At the end of X-Men: Apocalypse, Jean Grey unleashed the full force of her powers and took out Apocalypse by becoming the Phoenix. Well, in this movie, Kinberg decided to just forget about that and start over by making this cosmic force a cloud of dust that essentially just makes Jean more powerful.

It's never referred to as the Phoenix Force, and "Phoenix" is just a name given to Jean by the kids in school after her apparent resurrection. So, what was that at the end of Apocalypse? Your guess is as good as ours, as there's no way of explaining this continuity error and it's just plain lazy writing.

Why Does Everyone Age So Badly?

I know the current X-Men movies no longer have to link up to the originals thanks to the events of Days of Future Past, but it's hard to imagine this new timeline means they'll age any differently.

Bearing in mind everyone looks the same as they did in X-Men: First Class despite it being a good thirty years later, how the hell do Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy age into Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart in the space of eight years?! Perhaps Storm electrocutes them Palpatine-style?

Nah, she's too busy making ice cubes.

What Happened To Jean?

At the end of the movie, Charles and Erik enjoy one final game of chess in Paris and as the camera pans overhead, we see the Phoenix flying through the sky. This is presumably supposed to be an indication that she survived the fiery explosion in space, but should it be taken as a sign that she's now fulfilling her purpose of bringing planets to life in the cosmos or something else?

Well, we'll never know, but this was obviously meant to leave the door open for Sophie Turner to reprise the role down the line. That certainly would have been interesting given her power set, but it's not like anyone involved with this franchise would have done the character any sort of justice based on Dark Phoenix!

Did The Government Just Start Trusting Mutants Again?

Due to Jean attacking a couple of police cars, the President cuts all ties with the X-Men, sends the military after her, and decides to open internment camps for dangerous mutants. It's all a tad extreme and never very well explained, but by the time the movie ends, the X-Men are back in their school and things appear to be carrying on as normal.

Were they just forgiven? Did the X-Men blame everyone on those weird alien invaders?

Whatever the case may be, this was probably Kinberg's rather weak attempt to return mutants to being hated and feared after they became beloved superheroes in the past two movies as, you know, it's not like we'd seen that plot thread already played out numerous times. Perhaps he was planning on adapting "The Cure" storyline again?

Who Thought The "X-Women" Line Was A Good Idea?

Captain Marvel did a great job of introducing a powerful, female superhero and while Kinberg attempts to sell Dark Phoenix as another empowering, feminist movie, it's a total sham.

Mystique's line about the "X-Women" is incredibly forced and borderline insulting (not to sensitive men scared of female characters being given the spotlight, but actual women). Yes, Jean saves the day, but none of the female characters are treated well here. Jean is a glorified MacGuffin, Raven is killed off in short order, and Storm is basically just an extra.

Kinberg is clearly patting himself on the back in a big way, though.

Where's Wolverine?

Kinberg says he didn't bring Wolverine back for Dark Phoenix because it would have been weird to have Hugh Jackman romantically pursuing the young Jean, but does he realise that their romance isn't something you have to include in an X-Men movie? Clearly not.

Regardless, no storyline explanation is provided for Logan's absence and that's somewhat frustrating, especially as we'll now never know how he winds up joining the X-Men in the flashforward we got at the end of Days of Future Past, a moment it seems Kinberg has conveniently decided to forget.

What's Next For Professor X And Magneto?

We mentioned the chess game at the end of the movie, and it's during that Erik offers Charles a new home. He's presumably referring to Genosha now Professor X is no longer leading the X-Men, and it's interesting to think what they might get up to together. This is, of course, a question that will never be answered, and Marvel Studios will probably want to give Magneto a very lengthy break.

After all, he's been the focus of nearly every single X-Men movie, and while there's still a lot that could be done with the character, there are plenty of other great villains deserving of the spotlight.

Why Did Magneto Only Bring Two Members Of His Brotherhood?

The X-Men franchise has always had a bad habit of using familiar comic book characters as glorified extras and the same thing happens here. Despite ruling over an entire "country" (well, camp site) of mutants, Magneto brings only two of them with him to America and, well, they're both pretty laughable. They're also not much use against the X-Men, Jean, or the aliens.

On that note, it's also somewhat infuriating how so many mutants in this movie just look like regular humans, something which very much goes against why they're persecuted, and what makes them special. Then again, it would be a bit much to expect Kinberg to do something that isn't totally generic here, as that's the movie's running theme it seems.

Was The Original Ending Any Better?

We'll never know.

Everything that happened on the train was a result of very expensive reshoots, and the finale was originally supposed to take place in space with fewer characters. It's been said that it was changed because they wanted to include more mutants, but there's probably more to the story.

The train sequence was overseen by the movie's 2nd Unit Director, so we have him to thank for the solid action scenes, anyway, and it's hard not to wonder whether Fox took Dark Phoenix from Kinberg because he simply wasn't capable of wrapping things up and delivering coherent action scenes.

Where Would Have A Sequel Taken Us?

Kinberg claims that Dark Phoenix was always viewed as a finale or sorts and if that's true, it's pretty shocking that this is the best he could do. Regardless, I'm sure he had some ideas for a follow-up, but beyond Jean still being alive, there's no real set up for that here.

We do see a student from behind who looks like Quentin Quire but knowing who he is would require Kinberg to actually read some comic books, and that might be asking a little too much. Oh, and no, there isn't an after-credits scene teasing what comes next.

Continue reading below for an in-depth recap of
Dark Phoenix's biggest surprises and spoilers!

Jean Grey's Origin Story

The movie kicks off with a flashback to Jean Grey's childhood and, well, the lesson here is that you should always let your child listen to what they want on the radio! Sick of her parents' taste in music, Jean inadvertently uses her newly emerged powers to change the station and is suddenly overwhelmed to the point where she knocks her mother out and causes the car to crash.

Jean is unharmed, and then meets Charles Xavier who promptly recruits her to join his school.

Later on in the movie, the "big" twist comes when we learn that while her mother died, Jean's father is still alive. However, he told Professor X to take her away as he couldn't deal with what she'd done and this revelation (which really doesn't seem like that big of a deal) is what pushes her over the edge.

X-Men...In SPAAAACE!

Before that happens, though, we get to see the X-Men travel into outer space. Despite the fact that Hank told Charles that the X-Jet isn't suited for that journey, it somehow still has oxygen in it for them to breathe while they attempt to rescue a number of astronauts.

Jean holds their ship together while Nightcrawler rescues the Captain and uses her powers to redirect a huge cloud of energy (Galactus style, baby) into herself to save her teammates. She manages to survive this and is taken back to Earth where it's revealed that her power levels are off the charts.

Despite us seeing Jean become Phoenix in X-Men: Apocalypse, this cloud is identified as a cosmic force and seemingly the actual Phoenix, which obviously makes absolutely no sense.

The D'Bari

It's not made entirely clear whether Jessica Chastain's shapeshifting alien is part of this race, but the aliens she works with throughout the course of Dark Phoenix are identified as the D'Bari. In the comics, their planet was destroyed by the Phoenix Force during "The Dark Phoenix Saga" and they now want to make Earth their new home by unleashing that power themselves.

As for why Chastain's unnamed character looks the way she does, it's because she lands on Earth and stumbles across a woman hosting a party whose identity she then decides to randomly adopt.

Mystique's Death

Mystique expresses her frustrations with Charles for embracing the fame that's come with leading the X-Men (they're now celebrated by the public and he has a direct line with the President) and wants to leave the team alongside Beast after discovering the way he lied to Jean.

However, with Jean losing control and setting off to find the father she thought was dead, the X-Men confront her at her family home. As Raven tries to talk her down, Charles uses his powers to stop Beast from hitting Jean with a tranquilliser and when she once again loses control, the shape-shifting mutant winds up being impaled on a fence. What a way to go!

Anyway, she then dies in Beast's arms, and he's understandably furious with the Professor.

Genosha

Magneto's new home is never referred to by name but it's clearly meant to be Genosha, as it's an island given to the mutants by the government. However, it ends up just being a field with a couple of huts and is hardly the impressive utopia from the comic books.

Jean visits Erik, causes a stir with the military, and is then told to leave.

Later, Beast arrives and tells Magneto that Jean is responsible for killing Raven, something that leads to an unexpected team-up between them as they agree to take her down once and for all.

The Alien's Plan

Alien (what else are we going to call her?) tracks down Jean and manages to explain what she hopes to use the mutant's newfound powers for. The villain was pursuing the Phoenix Force - which is never referred to as such - throughout the cosmos in the hope of using it to reignite the planet it destroyed, and she explains to Jean that she can now do that...she just has to kill all of her friends.

That really doesn't make much sense, but nothing about this character does to be perfectly honest!

Battle In New York

The X-Men learn that Magneto's Brotherhood (well, him, Beast, and two random mutants with a handful of lines between them) is heading to New York to kill Jean and what follows is a surprisingly cool battle between the characters. Sadly, none of them are in costume and that's bound to disappoint fans.

Charles ultimately manages to get a face to face with Jean, but only after she comically uses her powers to make him "walk" up the stairs in the building she's staying in. Seconds before she kills him, he manages to remind her of the conversation they had years before and that's when Alien suggests she transfer the Phoenix into her.

This process will kill Jean, though, and when Charles realises that the villain simply wants to wipe out all life on Earth to make it her own, he manages to get Cyclops to stop her. Unfortunately, all of the team is then captured by the government and put on a train to a mutant internment camp.

An Epic Final Battle

The aliens attack the train and what follows is an awesome, action-packed battle between them and the X-Men. Highlights include Nightcrawler teleporting one of them in front of the moving train, Magneto using dozens of guns against Alien, and Cyclops finally being something of a badass.

Ultimately, it comes down to just Alien and Jean and the train then derails for the final confrontation between these two as the X-Woman uses her powers to turn the attacking bad guys to ash.

Jean Vs. Alien

Alien once again tries to take the Phoenix Force from Jean, but fails horribly and is flown into space by the hero where they both vanish in a fiery explosion. There's no tearful goodbye with Scott but she does nod at Charles before leaving and, well, that's it.

The shape of the Phoenix is left in the aftermath, but it's the shot we saw in that trailer where it transitioned into the title so it doesn't have a particularly lasting impact as it's already been shown.

The Closing Montage

Dark Phoenix immediately jumps into a closing montage where we see Scott Summers rename the the school after Jean Grey, Quicksilver is hanging around after presumably being left comatose after that early battle with the Phoenix, and Beast is now the headmaster with an almost comical looking promotional photo of Mystique on his desk.

Charles, meanwhile, has retired and is now living in Paris, France and looking rather miserable.

It's then that Magneto appears and offers him a new home and a game of chess. Charles seemingly accepts and as the camera pans up to the sky, we see the Phoenix flying overhead. Jean lives!

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dracula - 9/18/2019, 2:33 AM

They have the X Men and Fantastic 4, now all they need is Spiderman, hopefully those 30% plus Venom rumors are true

Humperdink - 9/18/2019, 8:08 PM

@dracula -

Build Venom up for SONY just so they can dangle him as the next carrot they'll snatch away unless they let Morbius in the MCU?

No. Just Spider-Man.

Feige better play this the smart way.

dracula - 9/18/2019, 9:02 PM

@Humperdink - Well if they can have the control of Venom, that they have of Spiderman it can work, plus that would bring marvel closer to having full control of the spiderman characters. Like this deal would it mean Marvel makes the movies, like they do with Spiderman, or would Sony still make them, and they would have to incorporate them into the mcu?

Humperdink - 9/19/2019, 2:09 AM

@dracula - I see you're point but I feel that the lack of control they already have coupled with the likely heavy-handed interference from Sony isn't worth the effort. Feige allegedly helped SONY with Venom and that may be what made it somewhat watchable but it was still a mess.

The fact that Sony has already threatened to yank back Spiderman after Marvel delivered them their HIGHEST grossing film and their only SECOND film to cross a billion is extremely telling.

You can't trust SONY and IMO Venom shouldn't be forced in the MCU.

Kurne - 9/18/2019, 2:58 AM

I just saw this a few weeks ago. I can't believe how lazily-put together it felt. Not just because it's Kinberg's first directing gig, but the movie was filmed before the Disney merger and wasn't intended to be the franchise's last, yet it felt like it wanted to get itself over with already [on its own].

gordonh7 - 9/18/2019, 3:11 AM

What I find funny, is how it was Jennifer Lawrence who convinced Simon Kimberg to direct the film and then she only agreed to do it if they killed her character off early on.

Kumkani - 9/18/2019, 4:18 AM

"It's like focusing on Mystique for the last three movies was a bad choice."

And that, my friends, is it.

WackyBantha - 9/18/2019, 4:21 AM

That wasn't blood. It was ketchup. She stopped off at a hot dog stand prior to landing in that spot in the rain.

GhostDog - 9/18/2019, 4:36 AM

Ryguy88 - 9/18/2019, 5:20 AM

The score and cinematography were surprisingly great!

Spock0Clock - 9/18/2019, 11:18 AM

@Ryguy88 - If a movie is a sandwich, cinematography is like the quality of the crust on the bread and the score is like the drink accompanying it. No matter how good they might be, if the sandwich is made with rotting lettuce, moldy cheese, and dangerously undercooked meat, it's a bad sandwich.

(Also, while I'll agree that the movie is certainly competently shot, my memory of the music is that it felt like it was forcefully pushing emotional beats the movie didn't warrant to the point of being distracting. So... to continue the analogy, it was like a terrible turkey sandwich with a durian smoothie. Maybe that smoothie could make sense with a certain other meal, but not this one. [frick], I'm hungry...)

Ryguy88 - 9/20/2019, 6:16 AM

@Spock0Clock - youre not wrong. The plot, dialog, scene structure and just general pacing were all terrible. And the forced emotion was painful at times. Plus Magneto was a rehash of each of his previous movies. Id wager Fassbender didnt even show up on set and they just photoshopped his previous scenes into this.

Starlight - 9/18/2019, 6:01 AM

Watched it the other day.... what a lame movie....

WakandanQueen - 9/18/2019, 6:34 AM

What a [frick]ing disaster.

jj2112 - 9/18/2019, 6:38 AM

Haha right I wondered about the MCU forces and now I get it...

WeaponXCII - 9/18/2019, 7:11 AM

MrDandy - 9/18/2019, 7:23 AM

Finally saw this last night. It was awful. The movie is over the top dour, the dialogue cringy, the actors all phoning it in, and the plot scattershot.

They done the X-Men wrong.

With a franchise with a lot of ups and downs, I had hoped they'd conclude on a high note, but this ain't it.

sKeemAn - 9/18/2019, 7:28 AM

This might actually be the worst in the franchise, and I hated Apocalypse.

MUTO123 - 9/18/2019, 8:03 AM

I watched it a couple weeks ago. YEESH!

I don’t wanna say it’s quite as bad as Wolverine Origins, but it’s still pretty [frick]ing bad. Simon Kinberg CANNOT direct.

Spock0Clock - 9/18/2019, 11:39 AM

@MUTO123 - He certainly cannot write and I don't think he has a good handle on how to handle mood or tone (or narrative logic). But in terms of the basic coherence of scene composition, I think Kinberg somehow comes out looking halfway decent.

Certainly not skilled, though. (And how a director/producer can take 200 million dollars and make a movie that looks like it should have cost maybe 70 is possibly bordering on embezzlement.) But it was not the floundering I was expecting from a first time director.

demery - 9/18/2019, 8:10 AM

I didn't hate this as much as others. This felt like a decent first draft that was in serious need of rewrites but didn't have the time to do so.

Overall, I enjoyed the action and most of the lead performances (especially from McAvoy and Fassbender as always) to overcome the hardcore problems involving some of the attention to certain character's development.

Maybe my opinion would be upon a second viewing of it but after seeing the bland plus uninspired nothing of Men In Black International and the disappointing plus overlong fluff of Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Dark Phoenix was more or less what I expected it to be from the footage I saw up to that point and some of the news that came out about it.

Good Honest Trailer overall and I didn't notice the part of the blood and how it wasn't there when Mystique died. With how vital that detail was supposed to be, how did they [frick] up not putting a speck of blood on her shirt before then other than it would get the flick an R-rating otherwise if we saw it splat on her shirt when Mystique got impaled.

rabid - 9/18/2019, 9:19 AM

All decent criticisms, but where's the major plot hole?

CaptCoulson - 9/18/2019, 10:32 AM

A plot issue that's not mentioned here but I saw it on my first viewing, when Jean first comes to that island to talk to Eric, after the army guys show up it's made clear how powerful she is. She's WAY more powerful at telekinesis than he is (& can do any material, not just metal), she shows right there she's much stronger than him.

Yet Eric still then goes out of his way to confront Jean again later on in that mansion, when he's doing nothing whatsoever to make himself be stronger... If anything, he just gives her another weapon, as she starts to crush his helmet in around his head. What the hell did he THINK was gonna happen there??

WruceBayne - 9/18/2019, 11:30 AM

They never answered the question of how they were in space without spacesuits on. Night crawler literally just had on a helmet that had duct tape on it.

breakUbatman - 9/18/2019, 12:01 PM

Just watched it today, not as bad as I expected though.

Who told the kids that Jean killed Mystique?

Anyways it needed or more competent hand, for example Jean's role in her parents death should have been revealed to the audience and Jean at the same time. I know it's not even a twist but a lot of time was wasted flashing back to stuff. Felt like too much movie in one film and the X-men didn't feel like a team

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The "Honest Trailer" for Dark Phoenix is finally here, and it doesn't shy away from taking aim at everything that's wrong with Fox's final X-Men movie! Did you happen to notice this huge plot hole?

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And Is Nightcrawler Related To Mystique?!

What's The Deal With The Phoenix?

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Jean Grey's Origin Story

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CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Promo Art Finally Unveils Harrison Ford's Red Hulk

Chris Hemsworth Says "I Became A Parody Of Myself" In Taika Waititi's THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Promo Art Reveals Full Look At Sam Wilson's Suit As Toys Highlight Red Hulk

X-MEN: Could MUFASA Director Barry Jenkins Be A Contender To Helm MCU Reboot?

Sci-Fi & Fantasy

THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGU Gets An Exciting Production Update As Next STAR WARS Movie Draws Near

THE ACOLYTE Footage Leaks Online Ahead Of Its Debut With STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE This Weekend

FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA New Poster, TV Spots And Still Released As Press Tour Kicks Off In Sydney

REBEL MOON Extended Cut Gets New Title And Official R-Rating For "Gore, Sexual Content, & Graphic Nudity"

ALIEN: ROMULUS Still Gives Us A New Look At One Of The Movie's Xenomorphs

KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES Action-Packed Final Trailer Features Lots Of New Footage

Cartoons & Animated Features

X-MEN '97 Showrunner Breaks Down "Tolerance Is Extinction" And Reveals Whether That Was The Amazing [SPOILER]

SAUSAGE PARTY: FOODTOPIA - Prime Video's Sequel Series Gets A Suitably Salacious First Poster

X-MEN '97's Latest Episode Features An Intriguing Link To The MCU's Wider Multiverse Saga - SPOILERS

X-MEN '97 Spoilers: Bastion Enacts His Plan But There's A Huge Twist...And A Game-Changing Return

X-MEN '97 Features Some Huge Cameos...Including A Spectacular Marvel Superhero - SPOILERS

MY ADVENTURES WITH SUPERMAN Sets Season 2 Premiere Date With First Trailer & New Poster

Gaming

Xbox Games Showcase Confirmed For June 9 Followed By Possible First Look At CALL OF DUTY

Team-Based Shooter STAR WARS: HUNTERS Sets A June Release Date

PALWORLD: More Pals Set To Arrive This Summer In Newly Teased Update

STARFIELD: SHATTERED SPACE Expansion Coming This Fall; Bethesda Teases Another New Update Soon

FALLOUT Is Prime Video's Most-Watched Debut After THE RINGS OF POWER

STAR WARS OUTLAWS Reveals All-New Details About The Ashiga Clan

Anime & Manga

MY HERO ACADEMIA Shigaraki Voice Actor Teases Big Show Down With Star And Stripe In Season 7

DRAGON BALL: SPARKING! ZERO Trailer Reveals More Powerful Characters Joining The Roster