DARK PHOENIX Is Expected To Be An Even Bigger Box Office Flop Than 2015's FANTASTIC FOUR Reboot

You might have thought that things couldn't possibly get any worse for Dark Phoenix but it's now been revealed that the movie is on track to be a bigger box office flop than the Fantastic Four reboot!

By JoshWilding - Jul 08, 2019 01:07 AM EST

Filed Under: Dark Phoenix

Source: Forbes

Dark Phoenix was a critical flop and while it was already clear that it was going to be a box office bomb as well, things are worse for Fox's final X-Men movie than any of us could have imagined. According to a new report, the Simon Kinberg helmed release made around $430,000 this weekend for a domestic total of just $64.628 million.

Needless to say, that's a terrible result and less than what X-Men: Apocalypse made during its opening weekend! Now, analysts believe that Dark Phoenix will ultimately make around $250 million at the worldwide box office against a budget of over $200 million.

In order to be considered profitable, most movies need to double their budget and this critically panned release will earn only around 1.25x its budget back. 2015's Fantastic Four reboot, meanwhile, earned $167.9 million compared to its $120 million budget (a return of approximately 1.39x what it cost to make). To best that movie, Dark Phoenix would need to make $278 million.

Simply put, that's not going to happen.

It's sad to think that Fox's final Fantastic Four and X-Men movies essentially killed both franchises but now the rights have returned to Marvel Studios thanks to Disney's purchase of Fox, they will soon be rebooted for the big screen with new actors and new stories set firmly in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Hit the "View List" button to see ten characters who Marvel
Studios should prioritise following the Disney/Fox merger!

Cyclops

While it's true that we've seen plenty of Cyclops over the past twenty years or so, I think an argument could be made that Fox never quite got the character right. James Marsden and Tye Sheridan were both well cast but neither has been given the opportunity to show what a great leader Scott Summers is and most of their screentime has been devoted to pining after Jean Grey.

From the very start, Bryan Singer made a point of emasculating Cyclops as soon as Wolverine showed up and while I'm sure Marvel Studios is well aware of the importance this character holds to X-Men fans, there's sadly a risk that they'll feel he's been overexposed.

With any luck, though, he'll be given the chance to shine in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and these movies will focus on his actual personality, including Scott's slightly darker side which has seen him align himself with Magneto in both the regular and Ultimate Marvel Universes over the years.

Doctor Doom

Victor Von Doom has appeared in three Fantastic Four movies as the primary antagonist and for that reason alone, I don't think Marvel Studios will be too quick to use him in the reboot.

Kevin Feige is no fool, though, and he surely realises that Doctor Doom has the potential to be a foe for the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe and not just Marvel's First Family. It's vital that there's some sort of connection between Doom and Reed Richards but there are ways around that if the heroes are going to be left on the bench for at least a little while.

Doom is an incredible villain who hasn't even come close to being done justice on the big screen, so I would say that he should be an even bigger priority than Galactus and the Silver Surfer.

Wolverine

I know what you're thinking but bear with me! Wolverine has been overexposed both on the big screen and in the comic books for years now but as great as Hugh Jackman was as Logan, I still feel like we still haven't seen the definitive version of the character.

For starters, I think it's about damn time that he gets his suit, while there are so many elements of his history that Fox glossed over by obsessively returning to his time as Weapon X. There aren't really any characters like Wolverine in the current Marvel Cinematic Universe and as great as he is when he's with the X-Men, just imagine the hero crossing paths with Black Panther and Spider-Man.

The fact is, Wolverine is a character with an awful lot of box office potential and it could be Marvel Studios we ultimately have to thank for finally putting him on the same screen as Deadpool.

Apocalypse

While it definitely appeared as if Fox was building to a big Mister Sinister reveal somewhere down the line after teasing the villain in movies like Logan and Deadpool 2, the fact that those developing these Marvel movies are completely clueless means that was probably never going to happen.

As much as I think Sinister needs to be introduced (and tied closely to the Summers family), it would be even more compelling to see a comic accurate version of Apocalypse enter the fray, especially if that kicks open the door to alternate timelines, time-travel, and a sci-fi vibe which fans of the X-Men will be all too familiar with.

Bryan Singer tried and failed to bring a satisfying version of En Sabah Nur to the big screen back in 2016 and while I think Marvel Studios would hold off on introducing him, a new take could see him easily become the big bad of not only the X-Men franchise but the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a whole.

Invisible Woman

The entire Fantastic Four should obviously be a priority for Marvel Studios but it's about damn time Sue Storm gets the spotlight.

The most powerful member of the Fantastic Four, we've seen a bimbo version and an entirely forgettable scientist version but a comic accurate Sue who is the matriarch of this family and also every bit the leader Reed is is a must for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Plus, if that A-Force movie really does end up happening, she would need to play a key role there.

Invisible Woman is an incredible character and someone who could be vitally important in what's still a mostly male-dominated shared universe. Captain Marvel is opening the door for characters like Sue so Kevin Feige and company need to take advantage of that.

Sabretooth

We got a fleeting glimpse of Sabretooth's potential in X-Men Origins: Wolverine but that was sadly squandered and he hasn't been seen since in Fox's X-Men Universe.

Moving forward, I can't think of a better foe for the new Wolverine than this guy and there are a lot of great comic book storylines which Marvel Studios could choose to address (them being related in any way should be forgotten but the fact Victor visits Logan on his birthday each year would help make him a great recurring bad guy even in the X-Men franchise).

Sabretooth just so happens to be the sort of bad guy who could pop up elsewhere too; just imagine him crossing paths with Black Panther in Wakanda! Regardless, this is an X-Men villain with a huge amount of potential who deserves to be treated the way he deserves on the big screen.

Franklin Richards

One of the biggest questions fans have about the Fantastic Four's debut in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is how they could possibly be introduced. Will they be teenagers or could it be that they travelled to another dimension after being bombarded with those cosmic rays?

If so, it's perfectly feasible that they'd return to Earth with a child in tow and there's an awful lot Marvel Studios could do with Franklin. An Omega-level mutant, the youngster is one of the most powerful characters in the entire Marvel Universe and if Kevin Feige is going to start playing with alternate worlds, then having someone who can create them might come in very handy.

If you know anything about the Fantastic Four's adventures, you'll be all too familiar with what could be done with Franklin and he could even be used to reboot franchises and launch that Secret Wars movie we've heard so much about if The Beyonder isn't on the table.

Storm

I want to start off by saying that I most definitely don't want to see Storm end up being married to Black Panther. It didn't work in the comics and more than likely wouldn't play out that well in live-action either.

However, exploring Ororo's African origins is a must and Marvel Studios should cast the role accordingly. There are ways she could be tied into T'Challa's world, of course, but Storm can easily stand on her own as a character and it would be great to see her step up and do more than summon the odd lightning bolt or to create some clouds when she's in a bad mood!

Storm is a great character and one of the Marvel Universe's most powerful mutants so it would be awesome to see her powers portrayed properly as she flies through the sky and kicks some ass.

Silver Surfer

Way back when Fox lost the rights to Daredevil, Kevin Feige offered them the chance to keep the Man Without Fear in exchange for being allowed to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer. They said no.

With that in mind, it's pretty obvious that these two will pop up before too long but I would love to see a larger focus on the Silver Surfer first with Galactus teased over a number of movies. Norin Radd could even get his own solo movie before the Eater of Worlds appears to flesh out his origin story and to explain how he become Galactus' Herald.

It's shocking that Fox has never made a Silver Surfer movie but that leaves the door open to Marvel Studios properly introducing the character because the version we met in 2007 has been mostly forgotten by now (despite possibly being the best part of Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer).

Kang The Conqueror

Marvel Studios has introduced the majority of The Avengers' biggest villains but we've yet to see Kang the Conqueror grace the big screen. The time-travelling villain is closely tied to the Fantastic Four so he's probably been owned by Fox up until this point but that's about to change.

Kang could unite the Avengers and Fantastic Four, while also serving as a big bad every bit as terrifying and powerful as Thanos.

The way he plays with the timeline would be fun to explore, as would adapting any number of the story arcs which have seen him best Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Kang is an amazing villain who deserves to have his story play out on the largest stage possible so I definitely think Marvel Studios should make giving him the spotlight a real priority.

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WakandanQueen - 7/8/2019, 2:11 AM

99OPTIMISTPRIME - 7/8/2019, 2:49 AM

R.I.P.

bobevanz - 7/8/2019, 3:27 AM

Good riddance lol

Mando - 7/8/2019, 3:35 AM

R.I.P Fox-men

Kumkani - 7/8/2019, 3:49 AM

Inb4 Forthas blames all the MCU fanboys (even though it's completely illogical to think it's now that they would have made a difference).

TheBlueMorpho - 7/8/2019, 5:44 AM

@DnA -

Forthas - 5/15/2019, 6:50 AM

"The next billion dollar film..."

Forthas - 5/15/2019, 7:06 AM

"1) It is a Marvel film
2) Its Star Power (Jessica Chastain, Fassbender, Lawrence...and Sphie turner following GOT)
3) Marketed as final X men Film
4) Kicks off the summer block buster season
5) A popular Xmen story"

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/dark_phoenix/dark-phoenix-everything-we-learned-in-the-latest-issue-of-empire-magazine-spoilers-a168363

lordSTALE - 7/8/2019, 6:38 AM

@DnA - Who knew that we had so much power that we could convince the tens of millions of people (needed for his billion dollar prediction) who were otherwise going to see Dark Phoenix, not to go. And we did it Illuminati style too, without any public boycott campaigns and "calls to action"

And why would we do this for a franchise we knew was going to get rebooted regardless of how well this movie did, when we could have used this great power against Venom and the "Spidey-less Spider-man Universe"?

Battabing - 7/8/2019, 11:25 AM

@TheBlueMorpho - In a perfect world that may have gotten the job done, but #2 is hella problematic:

Nobody really likes Jessica Chastain, Fassbender is not a box office draw, Lawrence soured everyone on Mystique, and GOT crashed and burned in its final season.

#5. We've seen this movie before, by the same [frick]ing writer/producer, and now director. It sucked the first time.

kylo0607 - 7/8/2019, 3:49 AM

This just came and gone. Completely forgot it existed.

Didn't even bother to see at the cinema and that's saying something, considering I've seen every X-film since 2000 at the cinema.

After the burial of this franchise, now I am patiently waiting for its resurrection in the MCU.

FireandBlood - 7/8/2019, 4:14 AM

Just goes to show regardless of whether or not the Fox deal went through, their failure would have always brought them back to Feige.

CplHicks - 7/8/2019, 6:57 AM

@PlusUltra - Kevin Feige- "I know what I must do. I will shred this franchise down to it's last atom, and then with the characters you have sold back to me, create a new version. One teaming with continuity and knows not what it was before but only what it has been given. A grateful X-Men."

KWilly - 7/8/2019, 4:37 AM

Chewtoy - 7/8/2019, 4:44 AM

I suppose that if they had done a deal like the Sony-Marvel one instead of the buyout, we’d be seeing the MCU versions of either the mutants or the FF much sooner. Fox wouldn’t be content to wait... Marvel would once again have to bump one of their planned releases back to give the production spot to a Fox property.

Reeds2Much - 7/8/2019, 4:57 AM

Quick, blame the audience. Imply it's a conspiracy.

MartinTanley - 7/8/2019, 4:58 AM

Both of those movies have one guy in common... you rock Simon!

BobbyDrake - 7/8/2019, 5:25 AM

Good it deserves it!!! They should have shelved this movie like many people(myself included)kept repeatedly saying. Now it’s done more damage to the brand than it was worth which really sucks but it’s what I expected really. Hope they at least cancel New Mutants

WeaponXCII - 7/8/2019, 5:36 AM

Josh Trank right now:

Kyos - 7/8/2019, 5:58 AM

After Apocalypse's direct competition were the Ant-Man movies I never expected Dark Phoenix to make significantly more than that, and was rather prepared to see a continuation of the downward trend. But, man, not quite like this.

Right now Endgame is closer to beating Avatar than Dark Phoenix is to beating The Incredible Hulk. Damn. The X-Men really deserve better.

BuzzKillington - 7/8/2019, 6:04 AM

JoJo1982 - 7/8/2019, 6:16 AM

Simon Kinberg helped destroy the Marvel properties

X-men Last Stand
2015s Fantastic four
X-men Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix

lordSTALE - 7/8/2019, 6:58 AM

"According to a new report, the Simon Kinberg helmed release made around $430,000 this weekend for a domestic total of just $64.628 million."

X-men Apocalypse Opening Weekend:
$65,769,562

Damn, Dark Phoenix hasn't even made it to Apocalypse's opening after an entire month, and $250 million seems completely out of its reach now

We did say that this franchise had lost its audience and the decline started with Apocalypse would only get worse. A certain someone refused to listen and is now blaming us for this, even after all our warnings

Kyos - 7/8/2019, 7:50 AM

@lordSTALE - I mean, it was really not that unexpected. Apocalypse followed DOFP (and Deadpool), by far the highest grossing movie(s) in the franchise at the time, and it made more than $200M less than DOFP. That'd be a noticeable drop even if DOFP had made Avengers money.

But they went from "the biggest X-team movie ever made slightly less than Guardians 1" to "the sequel to the biggest X-team movie ever made slightly more than Ant-Man 1". I genuinely have no clue where some people got their faith in Dark Phoenix's box office performance from.

JoJo1982 - 7/8/2019, 8:01 AM

@Kyos - the X-men films just doesn’t have that appeal to the general audience and compared to other the cbm that are out, the X-men look and feels super outdated

lordSTALE - 7/8/2019, 8:27 AM

@Kyos - It was just extreme wishful thinking

There was this silly idea that this franchise and cast would just be merged into the MCU. Someone wanted this silly dream to come true so badly, and they thought Dark Phoenix making a billion would help with that conclusion. But now it's a fail of epic proportions and in their anger, they've been lashing out at the MCU fans that were warning them the whole time

unsocial - 7/8/2019, 7:13 AM

Lol.. I finally saw it. It was awful. The Prof X/Adam West Bat-Phone to thr POTUS was absolutely stupid..

Sure it has a cogent plot that moves along. But the story is like every bad CBM idea rolled into on movie.

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DARK PHOENIX Is Expected To Be An Even Bigger Box Office Flop Than 2015's FANTASTIC FOUR Reboot

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